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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: mommy2000

Very well said Fari --- Excellent!
I feel for both of them. What Shyam told her today was shocking to her as well. She wasn't just circumstance, she was the prize!!!
As far as ASR --- 😭! *looks for kleenex*

I didn't dig the screen play or the execution much. The promo was much more intense but the story is moving forward!!

Yes Renu, the screenplay and execution was really bad.

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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: incandescent

I felt that at that she really didn't know what to do.

Yes it is not the time to take sides because both will be suffering.


Yeah because this is the first time ever Arnav felt something so strong for someone and it was just shattered.

Whatever happens in the future, Arnav is ofc going to behave differently with Khushi and she'll be heartbroken again

So both lovers will be suffering because of each other and than later on their misunderstandings will vanish and trust will start to rebuild.

So just support the heartbroken couple!

Also if this twist didn't happen and ARHI played happy families this show would've ended within a month. SO ENJOY PLEASE AND STOP MOANING JUST BECAUSE THEY AREN'T FLIRTING WITH EACH OTHER OR BEING PLAYFUL Be strong enough to watch the intense story and the pace it's moving in .
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: incandescent

Arnav - After all these years, he finally lets his guard down and falls for a girl with his heart and soul. He is apprehensive at first, but later accepts his feelings and decides to confess. The moment he goes to express his feelings, he finds the girl in another man's arms and the man turns out to be none other than his brother in law; a man his sister practically worships as the ideal husband.

What will he think? Will he be shocked, walk away, be enraged or stand there to witness what happens next? After all these years he started believing in love; he pondered on his sisters words. Her sister and her husband's love for each other have been exemplary for him. If he finds out that his BIL's love for his di was a lie, will he still have faith in love? Or believe the girl he loves?

Can he be blamed if loses his capacity to think rationally? Can he be blamed if his anger takes over? Can he be blamed if he misunderstands?

ASR walked in at the wrong time, misunderstood what he saw, and heard the wrong words.

KKG said the wrong things at the wrong time...she was fighting Shyam but gave up at the wrong time.

Did ASR know KKG went to the terrace to meet him? No.

Did KKG know ASR would come there after she found out the message was left by Shyam? No.

They both became victims of an evil, psychopath.

As for KKG words....chhod dijiye Anjali ko. Tod dijiye yeh rishta. This may sound wrong but she had a point. So maybe this is what KKG thought'..If Shyam really doesn't love Anjali, why is he still married to her? If he really doesn't love Anjali shouldn't he just end the marriage instead of lying to her that he loves her? Does Anjali deserve to be betrayed this way? Isn't it better for Anjali if he leaves her?



Wonderful Post...Absolutely agree with each and every word of your post esp. the ones in Red!! ASR is a person who never believed in love and has very slowly allowed himself to feel such an emotion for the first time and be open abt it..that too for a girl who he has not Trusted much in past and is not even exactly sure of her feelings...so Yes if he sees her in arms of his Jijaji esp. just after the anjali's near-death accident...he is bound to get angry and would feel betrayed and misunderstand it and he is not stupid if he behaves that way!!
Coz the only person he trusts is his Di...& she trusts her husband like god...thus this situation not only question his beliefs but her Di's too ... so, he is very well bound to question the whole concept of love and trust!! In fact might even go back to become even more stern ASR as it even would strengthen his long-held belief that love and trust are stupid and useless concepts...as they only end up giving pain and anguish!!

Any human in his situation would initially misunderstand the whole thing...
so while he might hurt khushi initially.. but he too would feel that pain in his heart as he is already in love with her. As for him, its not only the loss of his Di's happiness but also loss of the only girl he ever fell in love it!! Although in his heart he may not be able to believe that khushi could do this but his mind wd believe only what he has seen..and we all know ASR listens to mind not heart!! He may later find out that Shyam was d guy who ws p.g at khushi's house and duped her into engagement without telling her abt his marriage and that khushi was as much as a victim as anjali but he still may believe that khushi too was in love wid shyam in past & was heart broken..that wd further tear him apart as he'll feel that the girl he fell in love with... "he was not the only guy in her heart"!!.. this hurt and pain of him may come out as anger outbursts and hated so as to hide what he may think was his one-sided love!!

Yes...none of us want hate-track...as we all were head over heels in love with the ongoing love track and the beautiful metamorphosis of ASR into Arnav in the last 20 days in the show...However we must not forget that show's basic tagline " Nafarat paas aane na de" shows that they wouldn't get together so easily and we all know that if arnav had proposed khushi wd Never have said no!! further, its better that shyam's truth comes out before confession coz they really can't get on with their relation wid such big truth being hidden in the closet!! & as Zee_news had also said..the trust between them is really fragile & they really need to build that up between them to have a real relation and for that shyam's truth did need to come out Now!!..so that once they are past this they can move toward a much stronger relation!

Sorry..I rambled for long ..but really feeling sorry for both of them...they both have been equal Victims of timing and Shyam😡 really hope that in upcoming episode he gets to hear what khushi actually thinks of that snake or at least give her some chance to explain herself!!


Edited by aditi07 - 13 years ago
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: LyssaPie


Yeah because this is the first time ever Arnav felt something so strong for someone and it was just shattered.

Whatever happens in the future, Arnav is ofc going to behave differently with Khushi and she'll be heartbroken again

So both lovers will be suffering because of each other and than later on their misunderstandings will vanish and trust will start to rebuild.

So just support the heartbroken couple!

Also if this twist didn't happen and ARHI played happy families this show would've ended within a month. SO ENJOY PLEASE AND STOP MOANING JUST BECAUSE THEY AREN'T FLIRTING WITH EACH OTHER OR BEING PLAYFUL Be strong enough to watch the intense story and the pace it's moving in .

I guess the moaning is because we love Arhi way too much and can't see them in pain. 😳

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Posted: 13 years ago
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Agree with you, Fari!

The screen play could have been done much better.. But this is the soup and they are in together... The misunderstanding is completely done; sad but done..

Both are innocent victims of the situation at this point of time..
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: aditi07



Wonderful Post...Absolutely agree with each and every word of your post esp. the ones in Red!! ASR is a person who never believed in love and has very slowly allowed himself to feel such an emotion for the first time and be open abt it..that too for a girl who he has not Trusted much in past and is not even exactly sure of her feelings...so Yes if he sees her in arms of his Jijaji esp. just after the anjali's near-death accident...he is bound to get angry and would feel betrayed and misunderstand it and he is not stupid if he behaves that way!!
Coz the only person he trusts is his Di...& she trusts her husband like god...thus this situation not only question his beliefs but also her Di's... he is very well bound to question the whole concept of love and trust!! Infact will go back to become even more stern ASR as it even would strengthen his long-held belief love and trust are stupid and useless concepts...and only give pain and anguish!!
Any human in his situation would initially misunderstand the whole thing...
so while he might hurt khushi initially.. but he too would feel that pain in his heart as he is already in love with her. As for him, its not only the loss of his Di's happiness but also loss of the only girl he ever fell in love it!! Although in his heart he may not be able to believe that khushi could do this but his mind wd believe only what he has seen..and we all know ASR listens to mind not heart!! He may later find out that Shyam was d guy who ws p.g at khushi's house and duped her into engagement without telling her abt his marriage and that khushi was as much as a victim as anjali but he still may believe that khushi too was in love wid shyam in past & was heart broken..that wd further tear him apart as he'll feel that the girl he fell in love with... "he was not the only guy in her heart"!!.. this hurt and pain of him may come out as anger outbursts and hated so as to hide what he may think was his one-sided love!!
Yes...none of us want hate-track...as we all were head over heels in love with the ongoing love track and the beautiful metamorphosis of ASR into Arnav in the last 20 days in the show...However we must not forget that show's basic tagline " Nafarat paas aane na de" shows that they wouldn't get together so easily and we all know that if arnav had proposed khushi wd Never have said no!! further, its better that shyam's truth comes out before confession coz they really can't get on with their relation wid such big truth being hidden in the closet!! & as Zee_news had also said..the trust between them is really fragile & they really need to build that up between them to have a real relation and for that shyam's truth did need to come out Now!!..so that once they are past this they can move toward a much stronger relation!


Sorry..I rambled for long ..but really feeling sorry for both of them...they both have been equal Victims of timing and Shyam😡
really hope that in upcoming episode he gets to hear what khushi actually thinks of that snake or at least give her some chance to explain herself!!


Aditi you have explained it much better. 😊

Edited by incandescent - 13 years ago
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Honestly Fari, I don't understand why some are upset with Khushi's last line, she really did have a valid point, even Arnav would have said it to Shaym. If Shaym cannot appreciate and respect the love he gets from his wife then his wife deserves better, needs to be set free! I think it was a line that suited that point in time in the scene, when Khushi si fed up of repeating him how wrong, treachous and disgusting he is and instead just gets straight to the point. Freeing herself from his suffocating grip and demanding him to free Anjali from his deception. Love this post!
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: incandescent

Arnav - After everything this man went through, he hid himself in his ASR shell in order to protect himself for further pain. He became cold, unfeeling towards the world but loved his Di and cared for his family as much as any man could and never allowed himself to love and be loved by any outsider. After all these years, he finally lets his guard down and falls for a girl with his heart and soul. He is apprehensive at first, but later accepts his feelings and decides to confess. The moment he goes to express his feelings, he finds the girl in another man's arms and the man turns out to be none other than his brother in law; a man his sister practically worships as the ideal husband.

What will he think? Will he be shocked, walk away, be enraged or stand there to witness what happens next? After all these years he started believing in love; he pondered on his sisters words. Her sister and her husband's love for each other have been exemplary for him. If he finds out that his BIL's love for his di was a lie, will he still have faith in love? Or believe the girl he loves?

Can he be blamed if loses his capacity to think rationally? Can he be blamed if his anger takes over? Can he be blamed if he misunderstands?


Khushi - She is a straightforward, righteous girl who is never afraid to speak her mind. She has made a huge mistake by not exposing Shyam. It was wrong but her intentions were right. She has always answered back ASR, pushed him, spilled hot tea on him when she thought he held her dupatta, but has she ever encountered a psychopath? She knew Shyam had feelings for her but could she imagine what extent Shyam can go to? She wasn't expecting Shyam there, she was shocked to see him, shocked at his shameless confession that he loves her despite being married and that the fact that he does not care about his wife. She was visibly frightened after hearing his threatening tone and seeing his menacing glare. When he hugged her tight, it wasn't a hug, he was squeezing her. She fought for while, tried to get him off but later she gave up. Maybe she took a minute to think what to do. Maybe she was so shocked that she didn't know how to react for a while.

ASR walked in at the wrong time, misunderstood what he saw, and heard the wrong words.

KKG said the wrong things at the wrong time...she was fighting Shyam but gave up at the wrong time.

Did ASR know KKG went to the terrace to meet him? No.

Did KKG know ASR would come there after she found out the message was left by Shyam? No.

They both became victims of an evil, psychopath.


As for KKG words....chhod dijiye Anjali ko. Tod dijiye yeh rishta. This may sound wrong but she had a point. Shyam kept saying that he loved her and not Anjali and tried to convince her since the time Khushi and the Gupta's found out. We know that Shyam married Anjali for her money and wanted to keep two wives. KKG doesn't. We know that Shyam never intended to get a divorce; he planned to kill Anjali so that he can inherit some of her wealth. KKG doesn't.

So maybe this is what KKG thought'..If Shyam really doesn't love Anjali, why is he still married to her? If he really doesn't love Anjali shouldn't he just end the marriage instead of lying to her that he loves her? Does Anjali deserve to be betrayed this way? Isn't it better for Anjali if he leaves her?


A request to all ' Please don't call it Shyam-KKG hug because it wasn't. What Shyam did was practically abuse. KKG wasn't hugging him back. The hug didn't ruin KKG's character sketch because it wasn't from her side. Yes it lasted a bit too long (blame the director, editing team)'..it was probably done for dramatic effect.




yes i agree mu ki baat chinliye...

n why kkg didnt slap was that shaym warned her n told her watever she does slaps him,beat him watever she has to listen wat he says ...n he doesnt want to hurt her again...she is a girl n does not hav that physical power to free herself n leave ...she was trying so hard ...n was saying him to leave her but she was helpless...n ya she did not completed the dialog ...it will be seen on mon ...they did not ruin her character at all, she is that stronger khushi who didnot got afraid of shyam but was shocked on his behaviour ...she never expected him to behave in this way...this was the second time she has to face his evilness alone ...last time shaym sawed arnav n stoped n went but this time he taked advantage of the oportunity ...calling khushi alone on terrace n abusing her

as far as aranv he came at wrong timing ...if he would hav come few seconds before he would hav heard khushi saying to leave her helplessly...or n early than that he would hav heard khushi saying to shyam how much anjali loves her or then from start he would hav listen to all conversation...

but he came at wrong timing n heard wrong ...n in shell shocked condision he is leaving without hearing khushi words ...after saying to leave anjali ...

the game begans ASR vs shaym ...

n so there is good news n also the bad one ...n the bad one will not last for long
the good news is shaym true face has came infront of arnav ...n arnav will not spare him for this

bad news...he misunderstand khushi ...n will think of taking revenge from her n there will be love-hate marriage ...but he will be enable to stop loving n caring her
......n soon seeing her inocense ...n her lov for him ...he will trust her ...


both ASR n khushi cant be blamed for it
Edited by honestyfirst - 13 years ago
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Cant blame these poor souls!!! I just feel so bad n terrible to see them again thrown in the hands of cruel destiny!!😭
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Fari - you put me in a dilemma by "daant lagao" me for not being serious. I so wanted to stay in the gutter.

So here is my brutal honesty in all its gory glory. I think if I were khushi, I would struggle, kick, hit, bite, snipe, do anything in my power to escape the creep. Once I know the deceit of a person, I would not want to touch them with a ten foot pole, leave alone have a conversation.

As for ASR, if he leaves the conversation on Monday without bothering to discover the whole truth, I would qualify him as the dumbest business man not mention a dimwit of human being ever. No one leaves a conversation like that without getting to the bottom of it, or confronting the offending parties or atleast trying to hear out Khushi. Especially not a man of ASR's stature and power.

I dont blame any one of them. I blame the script for creating unrealistic scenes that lack common-sense. Lets hope Monday is not a continuation of this dumb, dumber, dumbest regression.

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