Again..Is Shlok really so dumb? Aditi track was a blunder.

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No offense to Neha the actress...she is a nice actress and would have been appreciated if she was in a better role like being Shlok's or Sid's or Astha's sister...or just a friend .
But her trying to murder Astha and hurt Shlok to avenge for her sister is plain stupid..yes that does make her a villain and a lunatic who should not be forgiven. First of all there is always another side to the story..she did not bother to find out that Shlok still remembers Swati. On top of that attempts to murder and kidnap etc is criminal...She should be shown to be punished though I am sure they will show Astha forgiving her.


Is Shlok so dumb that he never made sense of all the attacks on Astha and he has to be begged for by Astha to go check the place she was mentioning...I hated the whole Astha begging and Shlok ignoring her...part frankly.He thinks she sees him everywhere because she loves him...how stupid and arrogant of him. .So all this while when Astha is shouting hoarse in front of everybody that Aditi is a wrong woman...Shlok never belived her?? Usko sach mein hi farak nahi padta hai. ??
So when Shlok has no brains to think , and has no heart for Astha...then why does he deserve her...really disliked first half today.

The only good part was that he defended Astha in front of his family...he knows that Astha does not lie for fun...then why does he not listen to her when she kept telling about Aditi.
Where is the shrewd manipulator Shlok who trapped Astha in his web of lies and married her?
Atleast where is the the Shrewd NA and Shrewd son of NA who has learnt from him??


Also how did NA choose to keep this Aditi with them...

It was good to see the whole Agnihotri family worried about her...esp anjali and Shlok.. Shlok knows in his heart that Astha lies only under some circumstances so he should know that the multiple times he alleged that she lied ...he was wrong.

After Astha takes Shlok to the old house and they come back, and Aditi visits Shlok randomly, does Shlok not do any thinking?? He really thinks after everything that happened...Aditi visited him just like that?..After barging into their room in the morning with tea?
And he leaves his cellphone while he goes out? People usually carry thier cellphone with them...
And he sees Aditi with his cell...thinks momentarily and then casts aside any doubts. So any one related remotely to NA is over and above doubt by Shlok? This guys is the hero? ??
I was really put off by Shlok today..so much that when he took Astha pic from the file I was like put it back and dont touch her. She is not buri you are bura and buddu. Sorry but I could not see anything romantic in that scene...love without caring and sense of protection for Astha makes no sense.

The only saving grace today was Shlok's defense for Astha...but if he knows so then why didn't he trust is the question..esp when its her life in question.


About comments of the actors on public media :

I agree with many forum members that Neha and other actors calling this Aditi character as positive and not vamp and not villain is wrong. Moral responsibility..they need to call a person who kidnaps and attempts murders as a criminal. That is worse than NA beating Anjali and Abhay beating Shlok.
As for as Aditi's reasons regarding her sister..every murderer has a reason..every wrong doer think he has a purpose. Ask terrorists..they will say they are fighting for their cause. Ask a thief why he does what he does he will have a story. That does not mean their actions are justified. Similarly Aditi's actions of posing to be a lunatic and acting up , trying to kill Astha, threatening Ajinkya...etc must not be said to be positive in any way.The only justification to attempt to kill is in self defense...no other justification stands.

Maybe so, the producers misled Neha to think that the character is not negative when she entered the show..so she is finding it hard for herself to accept her character. Or she always knew but is not able to tolerate the response to her character after her role as Sita. In either case...it would be much more respectful if Neha accepted the character is negative , its challenging for her and she has done has best. That will elicit better response from viewers.
Maybe so the actors are all in thier 20s and have fun on sets and do not realize the effect of these characters and justifications to the world watching.
When Shrenu and Avinash the leads of the show try to justify Aditi , it looks as if they are trying to pacify Neha. Actually, Shlok himself is a grey character and has accepted that he is villain and hero of the show. Sojal, Abhay, Sulbha and NA...they never tried to justify thier characters as positive. All the on locations are meant for publicity...and since they are shown on TV and related to the show, viewers do have aright to talk about them.


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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: bluejalpari



No offense to Neha the actress...she is a nice actress and would have been appreciated if she was in a better role like being Shlok's or Sid's or Astha's sister...or just a friend .
But her trying to murder Astha and hurt Shlok to avenge for her sister is plain stupid..yes that does make her a villain and a lunatic who should not be forgiven. First of all there is always another side to the story..she did not bother to find out that Shlok still remembers Swati. On top of that attempts to murder and kidnap etc is criminal...She should be shown to be punished though I am sure they will show Astha forgiving her.


Is Shlok so dumb that he never made sense of all the attacks on Astha and he has to be begged for by Astha to go check the place she was mentioning...I hated the whole Astha begging and Shlok ignoring her...part frankly.He thinks she sees him everywhere because she loves him...how stupid and arrogant of him. .So all this while when Astha is shouting hoarse in front of everybody that Aditi is a wrong woman...Shlok never belived her?? Usko sach mein hi farak nahi padta hai. ??
So when Shlok has no brains to think , and has no heart for Astha...then why does he deserve her...really disliked first half today.

The only good part was that he defended Astha in front of his family...he knows that Astha does not lie for fun...then why does he not listen to her when she kept telling about Aditi.
Where is the shrewd manipulator Shlok who trapped Astha in his web of lies and married her?
Atleast where is the the Shrewd NA and Shrewd son of NA who has learnt from him??


Also how did NA choose to keep this Aditi with them...

It was good to see the whole Agnihotri family worried about her...esp anjali and Shlok.. Shlok knows in his heart that Astha lies only under some circumstances so he should know that the multiple times he alleged that she lied ...he was wrong.

Will update more later.



Nice review Jalapari. I differ here saying I have a problem not just with Aditi but also with Neha saying in the segments that she is here for a reason and she is positive since she will end up bringing Ashlok closer. What if Astha had died during her wicked plans? There is no way this is a positive character and neither Neha or Avi or Shrenu should say anything good about Aditi's character as that is giving wrong message to the society and viewers of all ages.

Neha's acting is good but to keep her image good she cannot flaunt that she is not villianous or negative and boast about how positive she is and Avi today supports her saying good she is not vamp and she smiles. What nonsense is that?

The rest of the episode with Shlok admitting indirectly to loving Astha or supporting her actions in front of Anjali have all taken backseat today. The girl tried to kill Astha innumerable times, now has kidnapped her and is planning to kill her and at the same time living shamelessly in that house and showing her concern for Astha is terrible and then justifying her actions is justifying kidnappers, shooters and terrorists.

We all agree Avinash and Shrenu are excellent actors, but man as responsible persons you cannot support Aditi or what Neha said when she called it positive with Shrenu also saying she understands what Aditi went through. So many people lose their loved ones in accidents , so do they go and kill the family members of those responsible ? I remember previously after car crash Avi said in the segment how does she say this is positive? Now why this 360 degree turn, is what I do not understand.

If Neha took this role she can say she knows it is negative but she acted well. But no way can it be called positive directly or indirectly after what the Cvs have shown her doing. I do not think Aditi or even the dying Swati then deserve any sympathy.

Sorry , but when a strong media like television shows a negative character , they must repeatedly say that it is bad and not call it positive in any way. Is Abhay also going to say that he is a positive character because now Jyoti found such a loving person like Sid and because of his meanness the baby girl is going to survive, and his aunt is good as she could not run behind Jyoti and let her go away so she helped to save the baby? The auto driver was also a positive character because Shlok came to save Astha and they both started coming closer after that.

CVs should clear this repeatedly now after this blunder track.
MY POV. But really disappointed with this track. I know Cvs think that this is what takes up the TRP but is the society that sick that only when horrible characters are shown that TRPs go up? Sad.


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Posted: 11 years ago
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Nice post Jalpari...
I so much wanted to make a post on this whole Aditi track, you almost read my mind 😊. This whole Aditi track is all botched up and there is no proper direction in which the CV's went through for this track. They went with jealousy first, then we thought NA/Varad was involved finally she was all alone in this plan? It makes all the shrewd characters gone for a toss including Shlok, NA, Anjali!!!
Does CV's really think that audience will accept her to be a positive character after all the treacherous activities she has done to Aastha?! How can one be forgivable for their actions which are murderous?

I agree with these lines esp.
No offense to Neha the actress...she is a nice actress and would have been appreciated if she was in a better role like being Shlok's or Sid's or Astha's sister...or just a friend
Neha has got the correct amount of reactions from audience for this character. She did a pretty good job. 👏 She was brought in for 2-3 months finally they decided to end it all with messed up script..and hope they don't do the same with Swathi too ..which was all so much hyped up since the beginning.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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don't even find energy, where to start. thanks for the post jalpari,
execution, not that bad, tehre are all kind of mad ppl out there going to extremes for revenge,
but like suchi said,
trying to justify her, no way
saying aditi is bad, negative does not mean the actress is bad, on the contrary i think she did job well if she made us hate her, bcz it is her job to show to audience that real ppl who go such horrible path are ugly and do not get sympathy no matter what they have been through.

although like jalpari said, that aastha will end up forgiving aditi, television should not show her get a free pass or let her punishment on bappa,
yes aastha and shlok may forgive, its their right, but then she needs mental treatment and strict surveilance.
ppl like aditi (not neha) cannot be left lose without proper treatment.

plan to murder, and multiple attempts to murder, is it a joke??

avi might hve said it in a joke that she is not a vamp, but in the show, if they show proper closure to this chracter, then offscreen does not matter

as for the title, is shlok so dumb, the same question in my mind, if you know she lies only for good of others, why you do not trust her when she is giving you so many clues and saying a thing repeatedly
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Originally posted by: lachii

don't even find energy, where to start. thanks for the post jalpari,

execution, not that bad, tehre are all kind of mad ppl out there going to extremes for revenge,
but like suchi said,
trying to justify her, no way
saying aditi is bad, negative does not mean the actress is bad, on the contrary i think she did job well if she made us hate her, bcz it is her job to show to audience that real ppl who go such horrible path are ugly and do not get sympathy no matter what they have been through.

although like jalpari said, that aastha will end up forgiving aditi, television should not show her get a free pass or let her punishment on bappa,
yes aastha and shlok may forgive, its their right, but then she needs mental treatment and strict surveilance.
ppl like aditi (not neha) cannot be left lose without proper treatment.

plan to murder, and multiple attempts to murder, is it a joke??

avi might hve said it in a joke that she is not a vamp, but in the show, if they show proper closure to this chracter, then offscreen does not matter

as for the title, is shlok so dumb, the same question in my mind, if you know she lies only for good of others, why you do not trust her when she is giving you so many clues and saying a thing repeatedly


Yes agree with you Sonia. Off screen segments do matter if they are shown on the internet or any other media TV, paper, etc. Not if otherwise.
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I have been highly disturbed (psychologically) since yesterday more disturbed than all the disturbing movies in the psychological horror genre. I literally went through shock after I watched yesterday's segments. It seems as if you can negate what people have seen so far by constant contrary marketing. Audience have been tortured since almost two months by careful planning and repeated scheming of murders targeted and attempted at a person who is not at all responsible. As suchi, bluejalpari and many others have mentioned in their yesterday's posts, this is psychotic behaviour and such a person needs behavioural control and various other treatments. What disturbed me is that now the well known actors are supporting and advertising this behaviour as a not villainous act. i agree this is far more sinister propaganda when you try to brainwash people's minds and led them to not discriminate good from bad. these actors and media influence a lot of people whether we like it or not. they have to be responsible what they convey. This is not right full stop, by repeatedly saying that this is not bad will not become good. But i think the society acts like this, society can be easily influenced into leading them to believe in contrary to what they have witnessed. no wonder why such political leaders get elected, why the rape convicts get away, why sexual abusive behaviour is prevalent in offices,

I am at a complete loss of words to verbally express what i am feeling right now. I just felt that I should also voice my concerns regarding what has been bothering me since yesterday. Thanks for making such posts. These are necessary, the people related to show have to know that they have to be responsible when they show or say something. it is alright to show something bad but say it as bad but you cannot simply pass it off as "NOT BAD". That has to be a line drawn there. Things can always not be grey. Many times "Truth" or "Not truth" matters as in judicial system and law enforcement.
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Originally posted by: peytonmanning

I have been highly disturbed (psychologically) since yesterday more disturbed than all the disturbing movies in the psychological horror genre. I literally went through shock after I watched yesterday's segments. It seems as if you can negate what people have seen so far by constant contrary marketing. Audience have been tortured since almost two months by careful planning and repeated scheming of murders targeted and attempted at a person who is not at all responsible. As suchi, bluejalpari and many others have mentioned in their yesterday's posts, this is psychotic behaviour and such a person needs behavioural control and various other treatments. What disturbed me is that now the well known actors are supporting and advertising this behaviour as a not villainous act. i agree this is far more sinister propaganda when you try to brainwash people's minds and led them to not discriminate good from bad. these actors and media influence a lot of people whether we like it or not. they have to be responsible what they convey. This is not right full stop, by repeatedly saying that this is not bad will not become good. But i think the society acts like this, society can be easily influenced into leading them to believe in contrary to what they have witnessed. no wonder why such political leaders get elected, why the rape convicts get away, why sexual abusive behaviour is prevalent in offices,

I am at a complete loss of words to verbally express what i am feeling right now. I just felt that I should also voice my concerns regarding what has been bothering me since yesterday. Thanks for making such posts. These are necessary, the people related to show have to know that they have to be responsible when they show or say something. it is alright to show something bad but say it as bad but you cannot simply pass it off as "NOT BAD". That has to be a line drawn there. Things can always not be grey. Many times "Truth" or "Not truth" matters as in judicial system and law enforcement.


Agree with your views. I wrote the same yesterday too
http://www.india-forums.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=3981584
Felt worse today after seeing the segment .


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Originally posted by: peytonmanning

I have been highly disturbed (psychologically) since yesterday more disturbed than all the disturbing movies in the psychological horror genre. I literally went through shock after I watched yesterday's segments. It seems as if you can negate what people have seen so far by constant contrary marketing. Audience have been tortured since almost two months by careful planning and repeated scheming of murders targeted and attempted at a person who is not at all responsible. As suchi, bluejalpari and many others have mentioned in their yesterday's posts, this is psychotic behaviour and such a person needs behavioural control and various other treatments. What disturbed me is that now the well known actors are supporting and advertising this behaviour as a not villainous act. i agree this is far more sinister propaganda when you try to brainwash people's minds and led them to not discriminate good from bad. these actors and media influence a lot of people whether we like it or not. they have to be responsible what they convey. This is not right full stop, by repeatedly saying that this is not bad will not become good. But i think the society acts like this, society can be easily influenced into leading them to believe in contrary to what they have witnessed. no wonder why such political leaders get elected, why the rape convicts get away, why sexual abusive behaviour is prevalent in offices,

I am at a complete loss of words to verbally express what i am feeling right now. I just felt that I should also voice my concerns regarding what has been bothering me since yesterday. Thanks for making such posts. These are necessary, the people related to show have to know that they have to be responsible when they show or say something. it is alright to show something bad but say it as bad but you cannot simply pass it off as "NOT BAD". That has to be a line drawn there. Things can always not be grey. Many times "Truth" or "Not truth" matters as in judicial system and law enforcement.



Agree PeytonManning..I do understand how disturbing and annoying it is to have truth, good bad and evil played with. At the least the actors could have described her as strongly grey.
Instead she went on talking about Strong and Positive. I have updated the main post with my thoughts on it.
Hopefully CVs will close this Swati Aditi track gracefully ...their goal is to make AStha and Shlok be the soulmate characters . Rather if they make Shlok and Swati look like soulmates and Astha as timepass..the serial is waste.
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Originally posted by: Sg2013


Nice review Jalapari. I differ here saying I have a problem not just with Aditi but also with Neha saying in the segments that she is here for a reason and she is positive since she will end up bringing Ashlok closer. What if Astha had died during her wicked plans? There is no way this is a positive character and neither Neha or Avi or Shrenu should say anything good about Aditi's character as that is giving wrong message to the society and viewers of all ages.

Neha's acting is good but to keep her image good she cannot flaunt that she is not villianous or negative and boast about how positive she is and Avi today supports her saying good she is not vamp and she smiles. What nonsense is that?

The rest of the episode with Shlok admitting indirectly to loving Astha or supporting her actions in front of Anjali have all taken backseat today. The girl tried to kill Astha innumerable times, now has kidnapped her and is planning to kill her and at the same time living shamelessly in that house and showing her concern for Astha is terrible and then justifying her actions is justifying kidnappers, shooters and terrorists.

We all agree Avinash and Shrenu are excellent actors, but man as responsible persons you cannot support Aditi or what Neha said when she called it positive with Shrenu also saying she understands what Aditi went through. So many people lose their loved ones in accidents , so do they go and kill the family members of those responsible ? I remember previously after car crash Avi said in the segment how does she say this is positive? Now why this 360 degree turn, is what I do not understand.

If Neha took this role she can say she knows it is negative but she acted well. But no way can it be called positive directly or indirectly after what the Cvs have shown her doing. I do not think Aditi or even the dying Swati then deserve any sympathy.

Sorry , but when a strong media like television shows a negative character , they must repeatedly say that it is bad and not call it positive in any way. Is Abhay also going to say that he is a positive character because now Jyoti found such a loving person like Sid and because of his meanness the baby girl is going to survive, and his aunt is good as she could not run behind Jyoti and let her go away so she helped to save the baby? The auto driver was also a positive character because Shlok came to save Astha and they both started coming closer after that.

CVs should clear this repeatedly now after this blunder track.
MY POV. But really disappointed with this track. I know Cvs think that this is what takes up the TRP but is the society that sick that only when horrible characters are shown that TRPs go up? Sad.




Thanks Suchi..I know you have been very upset witb Aditi's characterizarion and Actors comments and I fully agree with you. They have been directionless ..bringing stupid plots and and reaons for her stay. If they needed a character to create problems for Astha so Shlok saves her and proves his love...they could have got a male characters who plots and plans against Shlok for some old rivalry. I never understand why, when we already have so much confusion with Astha and Swati in the picture..we needed a third woman around Shlok. It made Shlok look very stupid actually.

A strong gray male character would have better to do this job . I think originally CVs brought Aditi to lure Shlok with friendship and goa trip and produce a rift between AStha and Shlok...then they realized audience will not take that and they promptly changed tracks.

At least I hope the Swati story has a good answers because Swati has figured since Kolhapur...and the man pined and drunk for her...hope when Shlok talks about his and swati's story it makes sense and is not something stupid like tai tai phish.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: jia.astk

Nice post Jalpari...

I so much wanted to make a post on this whole Aditi track, you almost read my mind 😊. This whole Aditi track is all botched up and there is no proper direction in which the CV's went through for this track. They went with jealousy first, then we thought NA/Varad was involved finally she was all alone in this plan? It makes all the shrewd characters gone for a toss including Shlok, NA, Anjali!!!
Does CV's really think that audience will accept her to be a positive character after all the treacherous activities she has done to Aastha?! How can one be forgivable for their actions which are murderous?

I agree with these lines esp.
No offense to Neha the actress...she is a nice actress and would have been appreciated if she was in a better role like being Shlok's or Sid's or Astha's sister...or just a friend
Neha has got the correct amount of reactions from audience for this character. She did a pretty good job. 👏 She was brought in for 2-3 months finally they decided to end it all with messed up script..and hope they don't do the same with Swathi too ..which was all so much hyped up since the beginning.



Thanks Jia.

Aditi doing all this by herself even without NA involved is very far fetched for me. But some part of me thinks that even now, NA could be involved. He is the only one who is not getting hyper on AStha's absence. How will NA benefitted by Astha's death...the answer I feel is that one he gets rid of AStha, kirloskers without divorce. Second..a heartbroken Shlok will be easier to control..he will depend more on Baba.
Otherwise I do not know how Aditi alone could manage to pose as NA's friend's daughter , try to attract attention from Shlok, make a place in Agni house, hire people to kidnap Astha...make murder attempts...shouldnt she be rather spending time with her ill sister?

Illogical episodes once in a while are okay..the whole track for 2-3 months has been illogical. If not was brilliant chemistry between Astha Shlok and a good director..we all would have stopped watching.

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