Again..Is Shlok really so dumb? Aditi track was a blunder. - Page 2

Originally posted by: bluejalpari

Agree PeytonManning..I do understand how disturbing and annoying it is to have truth, good bad and evil played with. At the least the actors could have described her as strongly grey.
Instead she went on talking about Strong and Positive. I have updated the main post with my thoughts on it.
Hopefully CVs will close this Swati Aditi track gracefully ...their goal is to make AStha and Shlok be the soulmate characters . Rather if they make Shlok and Swati look like soulmates and Astha as timepass..the serial is waste.

why is swati kept in that shabby place instead of a hospital under observation or is she shown in a hospital??

Another awesome post Jalpari. You write with such precision that it is as if you read my thoughts.

Originally posted by: Sg2013

Agree with your views. I wrote the same yesterday too

http://www.india-forums.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=3981584

Felt worse today after seeing the segment .

Originally posted by: peytonmanning

with reference to your yesterday's post, i hope that swati did not leave shlok due to some terminal illness, i would rather that she left due to NA-anjali as hinted previously, otherwise shlok would be in swati-land forever, astha would just be his consolation prize, just because he could not get swati he would settle for astha,

i am really afraid that today's episode is to mislead the audience that he is into astha, so they could justify this aditi track, afterall swati also would be a great soul and that he misunderstood her🤢

I hope so too...that Anjali and NA are involved in Swati leaving Shlok. I thought of terminal illness because he is in that state...and because NA might have told Shlok that she left for other reasons like another guy.
But I agree and hope swati story is correct in details..that she left Shlok suddenly and told him she has chosen another guy and that he is not worth of love. And Shlok warned his parents that what happened with Swati should not happen to Astha. So hope CVS themselves remember the story they have put forth. And they have to make sure Shlok and Astha's relation is stronger out of this. Just two people living together because they got married does not justify Shlok and Astha's relation.

The thing that CVs kept telling regarding Shlok's character all along is that change is gradual and Shlok will not change in s day all of a sudden. So Shlok's character has changed very gradually...but what about Astha...she has flipflopped in hate and love and wanting to help and wanting to give back his smile and wanting him for herself...she has been all about the place.
Why did CVs not make her change gradual?

Frankly I have not been able to enjoy any romantic scenes past two episodes because its very clear that before Swati story is out and we see emotional Shlok with Swati...they want to show a bone of attraction( blouse scene), a bone of liking ( photo scene of today) and a bone of respect and trust( his defense of Astha today in front of family). These seem very sudden to me...yes they made for a good watch but this is just the calm before the storm.

Once again Shlok will go into his darkness and Astha apparently will take it as a challenge to make him smile. That seems to be the only purpose of her life..she is bigger than Mother Teresa looks like.

What I really, really would want is to for Astha to leave. No divorce because marriage should be respected...but separation is necessary for Shlok to get back his brain and heart in right place. Shlok needs to win AStha the hard way , period. He has been getting her on a platter...and has been so arrogant that he did not bother when she was yelling and telling about Aditi.
Why is she not angry that Shlok is not trusting her. When I looks back, he told her she is kachra, she is cheap , Shlok ko farak nahi padta, she is parayi...she is shameless and battameeez...she is a liar..blah blah blah. When will he pay back for that. I starting to lose my patience with this Mother Teresa Act from Astha.

Till date we do not know why Shlok trapped her, married her and tried to dump her. Revenge for Baba does not sell...he cannot punish her by havig to deal with her for life. There were other ways to take revenge. Revenge against women kind for due to Swati ..again does not hold. He told her clearly before temple wedding that Astha has nothing to do with his past and Swati. So why did he marry her...

Anyway sorry I started ranting...

BTW im loving the turnaround in Jyoti's life ..Sid guy is awesome...every family should have a son like him...he is so accepting of Jyoti...and he calls her Roshni..awesome:)

Originally posted by: veracity

Another awesome post Jalpari. You write with such precision that it is as if you read my thoughts.

I didn't get round to responding to yesterday's post, so I am sort of answering it here because I'm still unsure what to make of it, given that today's epi indicated he is accepting to himself he loves Aastha. Therefore, I agree that it is important that the writers take care to script Ashlok as soul mates if not 'love of my life' types because anything less wouldn't work to convince the audience of why Ashlok ought to be endgame. Love alone is not enough to sustain a marriage.

Hence it is even more prudent to redeem Shlok if they intend to keep Aastha with him as his betrayal has to bring repercussions or else how tragic does that make Aastha that she was duped like that and still waited around hoping for her man to change for her. A man who didn't really deserve her but was rewarded nonetheless with her unconditional love. That isn't what epic love stories are made of. Thus they must proceed with caution on the aftermath of Swati's death.

I am going to have selective amnesia over this Aditi track so long as the focus re-shifts to the Agnihotris vs Kirloskars; the struggle to maintain human relationships in a dysfunctional family setup and the outcomes when one doesn't succeed.

This is off tangent but I envisaged a whole ending to this show that involves NA surrending himself to the police for his crimes of domestic violence and fraudulent business activities upon Shlok's demand. His one act to redeem himself with his Baccha. Since his only genuine attachment is his possessive love for Shlok. And Anjali finally shedding her fear of NA and taking back control of her soul because she has gained the support of her sons. The final scene being the Agnihotris (and Joyti-Sid) sans NA enjoying a lively meal at the dining table, all sat together passing the bowls of food around. No formalities and servitude. And Anjali at the head of the table feeding Kavya who is sitting on her lap. Her years of suppressed motherhood finally getting an outlet.

Or something along those lines because for me this show revolves around NA, Anjali, Shlok, Joyti, Aastha and Varad, in that order.

Edited for corrections. Writing from my smartphone is a real pain.

Thanks Veracity..whats ur name btw?
Its awesome if we think the same. As I wrote earlier I have not been able to enjoy the last few episodes because it is clear they are fattening the lamb for slaughter...the lamb is Ashlok relation.
The little bit of feelings of attraction, trust and liking from Shlok to Astha are being shown to calm us down before Swati hits us.
CVs shoud take out soem time and watch all the episodes aired till now to remind them of the details. They are not paying attention to details. And They are not understanding story has to to fit together..just stand alone scenes showing attraction like blouse scene yesterday and whoing liking like photo scene today..it does not work.
At least not for a lot of us who look for quality story.

When you serve cake...you cannot serve a bad cake with okay okay frosting and awesome cherry on top. First of all the cake has to be good ...and then top it up with these scenes.

Again..I would say CVs need to tighten screenplay and story.

Originally posted by: Sg2013

Yes agree with you Sonia. Off screen segments do matter if they are shown on the internet or any other media TV, paper, etc. Not if otherwise.

Lachhi..nice to see you here..I know that the track has been dissapointing since valentine and you dont post so regularly.
True Avinash might have said in a joke ..but they should show her jailed and not forgiven.

About trust Shlok already knows Astha does not make up things for timepass. She proved that by getting prood for jyoti's problems, and he had told her that day that she has won his trust.
Did he forget how her nature is?

Nice post..
This Aditi track is a complete let down for the show..From no angle I found the track interesting & justifying Aditi's actions at the end is out of question..
New entries in a daily soap should make a track interesting like the introduction of Sid..we found his track exciting from the very first day..
But at last we are watching a daily soap & we have to tolerate such out of sync tracks sometimes..Moreover the 6 days a week format of SP has made things diluted to a huge extent..
Hope the cvs realise their mistake & concentrate on the interesting characters of the show after they end this track..

Originally posted by: bluejalpari

No offense to Neha the actress...she is a nice actress and would have been appreciated if she was in a better role like being Shlok's or Sid's or Astha's sister...or just a friend .
But her trying to murder Astha and hurt Shlok to avenge for her sister is plain stupid..yes that does make her a villain and a lunatic who should not be forgiven. First of all there is always another side to the story..she did not bother to find out that Shlok still remembers Swati. On top of that attempts to murder and kidnap etc is criminal...She should be shown to be punished though I am sure they will show Astha forgiving her.


Is Shlok so dumb that he never made sense of all the attacks on Astha and he has to be begged for by Astha to go check the place she was mentioning...I hated the whole Astha begging and Shlok ignoring her...part frankly.He thinks she sees him everywhere because she loves him...how stupid and arrogant of him. .So all this while when Astha is shouting hoarse in front of everybody that Aditi is a wrong woman...Shlok never belived her?? Usko sach mein hi farak nahi padta hai. ??
So when Shlok has no brains to think , and has no heart for Astha...then why does he deserve her...really disliked first half today.

The only good part was that he defended Astha in front of his family...he knows that Astha does not lie for fun...then why does he not listen to her when she kept telling about Aditi.
Where is the shrewd manipulator Shlok who trapped Astha in his web of lies and married her?
Atleast where is the the Shrewd NA and Shrewd son of NA who has learnt from him??


Also how did NA choose to keep this Aditi with them...

It was good to see the whole Agnihotri family worried about her...esp anjali and Shlok.. Shlok knows in his heart that Astha lies only under some circumstances so he should know that the multiple times he alleged that she lied ...he was wrong.

After Astha takes Shlok to the old house and they come back, and Aditi visits Shlok randomly, does Shlok not do any thinking?? He really thinks after everything that happened...Aditi visited him just like that?..After barging into their room in the morning with tea?
And he leaves his cellphone while he goes out? People usually carry thier cellphone with them...
And he sees Aditi with his cell...thinks momentarily and then casts aside any doubts. So any one related remotely to NA is over and above doubt by Shlok? This guys is the hero? ??
I was really put off by Shlok today..so much that when he took Astha pic from the file I was like put it back and dont touch her. She is not buri you are bura and buddu. Sorry but I could not see anything romantic in that scene...love without caring and sense of protection for Astha makes no sense.

The only saving grace today was Shlok's defense for Astha...but if he knows so then why didn't he trust is the question..esp when its her life in question.


About comments of the actors on public media :

I agree with many forum members that Neha and other actors calling this Aditi character as positive and not vamp and not villain is wrong. Moral responsibility..they need to call a person who kidnaps and attempts murders as a criminal. That is worse than NA beating Anjali and Abhay beating Shlok.
As for as Aditi's reasons regarding her sister..every murderer has a reason..every wrong doer think he has a purpose. Ask terrorists..they will say they are fighting for their cause. Ask a thief why he does what he does he will have a story. That does not mean their actions are justified. Similarly Aditi's actions of posing to be a lunatic and acting up , trying to kill Astha, threatening Ajinkya...etc must not be said to be positive in any way.The only justification to attempt to kill is in self defense...no other justification stands.

Maybe so, the producers misled Neha to think that the character is not negative when she entered the show..so she is finding it hard for herself to accept her character. Or she always knew but is not able to tolerate the response to her character after her role as Sita. In either case...it would be much more respectful if Neha accepted the character is negative , its challenging for her and she has done has best. That will elicit better response from viewers.
Maybe so the actors are all in thier 20s and have fun on sets and do not realize the effect of these characters and justifications to the world watching.
When Shrenu and Avinash the leads of the show try to justify Aditi , it looks as if they are trying to pacify Neha. Actually, Shlok himself is a grey character and has accepted that he is villain and hero of the show. Sojal, Abhay, Sulbha and NA...they never tried to justify thier characters as positive. All the on locations are meant for publicity...and since they are shown on TV and related to the show, viewers do have aright to talk about them.

neha is def bad...revenge/ criminal acts for whatever reason is bad...but it leaves shlock in the same category...he got a guy to almost rape aastha, so he could save her to win her over...he married her for that same revenge...for an even worse reason, cause she insulted his baba...so in terms of aditi, doing it for her dying sister is not as bad as shlocks reason