Truth has different versions..5.4.14 - Page 4

Originally posted by: Sathia007

nice post.

Originally posted by: jia.astk

Will be back soon to read the analysis 😊 ok

My favorite part out of all the epi is of course Shlokie and honeypot's scenes 😉..always look forward to them. they are quite interesting. 😉

I didn't get the part why they were using shawl to clean up the bed?! any significance to it? or to show that such costly things are used to clean up the mess!! didn't get it. Doesn't the shawl represent Astha's love and care that he wanted to wrap himself up in the night before? So first Astha was using her love and care to clean up Shloke's life and then Shloke did it himself...and he did it with her love and care for him.

Anyways..that is not important..Shlokie gets riled up so bad that he blurts out and goes in tangential mode and says some very mean things to his dear wifey..he starts off with her actions and its consequences, then his baba's apmaan. Then finally her parent's upbringing, that she is outsider, shameless blah blah..(well shameless..he called her before too..but the other 2 are completely unnecessary). The minute he gets it that what went wrong he hides his face in the blankie .He wanted to hide...doesn't want to face his issues.now this is a different reaction that I have seen from previous times. Now Astha baby is taken aback; I loved her replies about being right and wrong , she is right she is an open minded person and he does not want to face the truth. And also that her heart wins over her mind every time 😭 and the last sentence she said in her mind that he does not trust him ...now I am getting a feeling that even if these 2 will not take divorce then will they trust each other? she thinks he wont trust her and he doesn't have any on her, then how ? trust is the most important part/pillar of love. True trust is one of the most important pillars of love and that is why Kalindi was worried about this relationship. I don't think that he doesn't trust her. If he didn't then he wouldn't be facing this conflict regarding baba and Astha. To me this lashing out and tantrum shows that he does trust her but that trust is now creating problems for him becuase it has brought a mirror in front to him regarding facing some truths which he does not want to acknowledge. Shloke also is aware that him not wanting to face the truth and not wanting to openly say that he trusts her is creating problems in this marriage. He wants this marriage but he doed not want these problems becuase they are making him think...that is why he is also after Kalindi and making indirect comments at her because he knows that Astha's ideals comed from Kalindi. It is good that Astha got a reality check regarding the trust issue...Now I am curious to know how she will deal with this. I also liked how both of them remembered their time in Goa trip and how Shlokie was looking longingly at Astha as if to apologize to her (now that won't come out easily though!!). When will he remember and feel bad about his betrayal?! The next day too while Gudi Padwa he was the one who was having a pretty sad face than her. Lets see...I want to see why Astha stays back...is it just because Aditi's threat? Which I don't want or will something else happen.

NA still wants Astha to be the Agni Bahu after this whole fiasco ...interesting !! But for what purpose...his manipulative music and the mirror showed that what he was saying is not the truth...there is something cooking in his brain. Will he be going after Kalindi?

I am liking how they are showing rats err Sulbha, Abhay now-a-days behind the bars ..hope they end up in jail too, but how long are they planning to hide the truth from Agnihotris that Jyothi ran away? I think they are keeping that track for later and for the time being they are doing the foundation. Also Jyoti and Sid are being used to bring some light moments to the show so that the heavy stuff is balanced.

And pest Aditi has got free pass now after this new drama

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@ Misti: Read your analysis..very nice detailed ..especially liked the honeypot, Shlokie bear's interactions and how their difference crop up due to Kalindi, NA respectively. thanks Jia

Actually I too did not get why Anjali did bring the divorce thing now in front of Astha again? Does she want her leave!? I felt that she is giving a warning regarding what Astha will have to face if she stays back but chitss thought that she wants Astha to let go of Aditi.. That she might be afraid that Neeranjan might get more annoyed and that will not be good for Astha. So it is better for the time being to lay low. Wish they make it clear.

@Myra: I was giggling all the time I read your write up...Shlokie is Rupunzel now!! oh no..sleeping beauty is better 😊

Originally posted by: nandu96

Loved ur analysis

Originally posted by: k.taddy123

NICE REVIEW

Originally posted by: .SajnaVe.

Greeat review

Originally posted by: misti73

Originally posted by: misti73

"Love is a circular emotion that surrounds you, like a hug. Or a noose."
Jarod Kintz, Love quotes for the ages. And the ageless sages.

If you would be a real seeker after truth, it is necessary that at least once in your life you doubt, as far as possible, all things.

Rene Descartes

"Man is not what he thinks he is, he is what he hides."
Andr Malraux

I am again going on characters today. Today was journey of Astha to some truths. Also it seems the story might be changing.

Anjali and Astha

Astha's journey to realizing some truths begins with Anjali. Astha started convincing Anjali that she is telling the truth, only to have her point being brushed aside by Anjali according to whom Astha is here only for few days and she does not want her to create any more problems. So Anjali thinks that Astha will leave? Why? Also why is she reminding Astha that she will leave? Has she worked out that Neernajan wants the marriage to break and that what Neeranjan wants usually happens? Or does she think that Astha genuinely wants to leave? Coming to Astha, she has been brought up in a family where people usually pay attention to what she says because they love her unconditionally. Astha does not understand it is not necessary that what happens in her family will also take place at Agnihtori's who believe in conditional love. She also does not understand that one cannot force or make someone accept the truth when they themselves do want to believe in it. It is not about Anjali trusting or not trusting Astha, it is more about Anjali turning a blind eye for Neeranjan. Anjali told Astha clearly that they have given her so much love and in return is this what she is giving them. This is similar to what she told Varad...that they have given him freedom to choose his own profession but he has to pay them back by giving a grandson. Both are perfect examples of conditional love...and if they can behave like this with their own son then why can't they behave like this with Astha? Anjali further said that is something happened to Aditi then how are they going to protect their name in front of others. It is true that Aditi could have died but Anjali did not once think that if Aditi was really interested in committing suicide then she would have done that in seclusion and not in front of others. People usually do that when they want attention or when they want to prove a point. Anjali is not an idiot but she won't think like that because then then she will have to acknowledge the truth. Also the family is not that helpless, they can protect themselves by proving that Aditi had bad intentions and the suicide attempt was just a step to cause problems for Astha. But that will mean accepting that Neernajan is not a good judge of character, since he was the one who brought Aditi. Anjali further goes on to add that because of Astha's actions Neeranjan had to bow down his head in front of his friend and that Neeranjan has been hurt by this action. So it again comes back to choosing to bury her head in sand for. Anjali also referred to Astha as shameless because she did not understand her mistake and was repeating it...insulting Neeranjan and not understanding that Neeranjan is bigger than any truth. She also sendsAstha to look after Aditi so that Aditi's ego can be massaged. Anjali did hurt Astha and did call her names but somehow I felt that she is also trying to protect her. Was she also warning her regarding the rules of this house...if she chooses to stay?

Anjali and Neeranjan

Anjali kept the glass of milk on the side table and as she was leaving Neeranjan showed his displeasure on Anjali by using his usual hurt tone to indicate to her that why is she repenting for her past mistakes when she is continuing to create blunders (him telling her not to do prayschit). He also might not have wanted Anjali to stand outside because people living in the house are disturbed with the happening and hence they might not be able to sleep. So chances of being caught will be more than before. Anjali immediately understood that she has done something wrong and she asked Neeranjan (In the background Neeranjan's trademark sa re ga re music started which indicates that manipulation has started. It started slowly and then went on to hit a crescendo at the end of the scene). Anjali has worked out that Neeranjan does not want this marriage to survive and Neernajan's manipulative music shows that most probably, she is not far away from the truth. Actually at one point Neeranjan slips...when Anjali was going to object regarding Astha doing the puja because she will be leaving, Neeranjan told her that lets think about today now and we will think about what will happen later when she leaves. At the end of the conversation Neeranjan's mirror image was also shown...which also indicates that what he is saying is not the truth. Something is going on in his head regarding the divorce. Another thing is Neeranjan also asked Anjali to buy jewelry for Aditi and he didn't show any emotional attachment towards her and just wants to do it as a means of buying their favor. Now since the same manipulative music was going on...is he trying to hoodwink Anjali into believing that Aditi is of no importance to him or is it just another means of manipulating Ajinkya?

Astha and Shloke

Astha's shawl is used to dust Shloke's bed? Interesting.😛..also first Astha was using it and then Shloke snacthed it from her and started using it.😉..Shloke is furious that one mistake of Astha's could have resulted in Aditi hitting the bucket and that Astha should have apologized to Aditi with a clear heart. But then he stops his tirade and looks down saying that she will not understand...what won't she understand? That why is he doiing all this? Astha tried to make Anjali understand and now she is hoping that atleast Shloke will understand because to her loving someone means trust that person. Shloke as usual throws a tantrum (actually tantrums are good because that means that Shloke knows what Astha is saying the truth but he does not want to accept it😳) and tells her that because of her nature people in this family have problems with her...Because she never wants to accept that she can be wrong...Welll in one way Shloke was telling the truth, not the complete truth but some amount of truth is there...It is true that Astha is not seeing the other side of the coin and that she wants others to accept the truth without any proof and just on her word. She is not thinking that what happens in her parents place will happen here too. This has happened before too but that time she did not face the consequences because Shloke held back on Neeranjan's orders. But is that the only reason why the family members are having problems with her? 😳Isn't it also that fact that Astha is not bowing down and accepting rules, when she seeing wrong being done? Isn't this also that is creating problems for family members because they believe in the Ostrich principle? 😳Shloke also threw a hissy fit because she does not want to change...why because it will make life easier for him. He can have his cake and eat it too? Or does he want her to change so that she understands his perspective. Anyway then he drags in the person with whom he has the maximum problem ...I mean he blamed her upbringing and that means he blamed his sasuma...Kalindi, the daughter of the Sun God😛. Baby bear is really irritated with his sasuma because of sasuma's influence his honeypot is not bending down. Infact she declared to the whole world that she loves baby bear but did not to his sasuma. Baby bear has further more to add...that he is ready to forgive all her dramas but he will not forgive anyone hurting his father, because baba's friends daughter has been hurt. Oh that's very generous of him that he is ready to forgive her..😳.if he follows his persepective but how about following his own advice? 😳And really it is all about baba? What about he knows that honeypot is right but he does not want to accept it because then he will have to accept that his baba is wrong...which will mean that he is wrong. So as usual his baba is the front when something else is going on in his brain. 😳Just like he married honeypot because he wanted to avenge his baba's so called dishonor and him marrying honeypot had nothing to do with his issues regarding Swati which honeypot brought out in him? He also told Astha that he can destroy himself for his baba...so what about her? She is an outsider. Actually he did not mean in the sense that she is an outsider to him...he meant with reference to his baba. He is baba's blood and yet he can destroy himself for his baba while Astha is not related to his baba...thankfully she is not. Astha took it the other way that he meant outsider when he is concerned. She is heartbroken that today he has crossed all limits and that when she came to this house for 6 months she came with the acceptance that she will have to leave (so she didn't come because she wanted to find answers?) and that although her brain warned her yet she fell in love again. That her heart wanted to get close to him but her brain kept on warning her and she listened to her brain and now she has lost. Baby bear is going on his tantrum spree and has now wrapped the blanket around himself......Honeypot continues that as long as she stays in the house she will hurt baby bear because there is a difference in their beliefs...that she has been taught to always support the truth (Kalindi's influence) and baby bear does not want to listen to the truth (baba's influence)...Well its good that she realized that it is not that Shloke does not trust her but it is more to do with the fact that he does not want to because then he will have to face the truth and cannot hide his head under the blanket...or in the sand. Honeypot clearly tell him that the difference between them is the difference between what is right and what is wrong. Interesting baby bear just sulked and he does not lash back...can he negate this truth? He actually has a very thoughtful look. Honeypot has a self-talk that it is good that her eyes have finally opened to the truth. Honeypot goes to make her bed and baby bear watches her...both are on their own beds and in deep thoughts. Honeypot is crying and remembering how baby bear protected her not thinking about his own life...how he took care of her in the forest. So care is there...but what if trust is not there (Kalindi's main worry regarding Shloke).While Shloke is remembering Astha hugging him when he saved her from the car accident...Astha telling her of her feelings...declaring to the entire world that she loves him and then he himself reaching out for her and hugging her in the jungle...So again the feelings are there but what is the use if he does not let go of his issues. The next day baby bear and his honeypot both make the gudi and it is baby bear who has a sad expression and is continuously looking at honeypot.

The rats are back

Abhay and his aunt are behind the grills of the window and Abhay is throwing a fit that he cannot manage anymore and that he will make up some story and tell his in laws. The aunt stops him from doing that and tells him that it is all to be blamed on his stars...son got changed to a daughter and Jyoti developed a spinal chord and will his in-laws be happy to know this...She also warns him that the in laws are very powerful. She meant Neeranjan...son got change into girl means Neeranjan has been fed lies (and it is due to Abhay that Jyoti lied) and Abhay's action resulting in Jyopti developing spinal cord means Jyoti has revolted. Will Neeranjan be happy if he knows this? Anyway the phone rings and Abay glares at it...he then pounces on it only to realize that it is Anjali on the phone who wants to talk to Jyoti. Abhay tells her that he is there to take care of Jyoti and Anjali accepts it and tells Abhay that if they want anything then they should tell her and Abhay says that he knows that she always fulfills all his wishes. Now this is true...it is Anjali who is feeding Ajay's ego. Anyway Abhay then solemnly promises that he won't accept any more calls on his land line ...why can't the Agnihotri's land at his place and that he must have married Jyoti at some auspicious time...but what has that got to do anything with landline?

Barney and Jyoti...also Varad.

Barney and Jyoti are in their world and Jyoti is standing in front of the open window, with fresh breeze blowing on her face. She is mesmerized by the sight of Barney teaching the little girl to play the mouth organ. After the girl leaves, Barney observes her watching him and then he starts playing it again...their world is broken by an intrusion...a phone call for Barney regarding an interview. Barney leaves for the interview and it turns out that it is Varad who is interviewing him. On being asked by Varad that why didn't he stick to any of his jobs, Barney's response was that he did not get on with the people whom he had to work for and that's why he left. Varad's expression becomes serious here...Barney continues that his past experience should not create any problems here because he thinks that both of them will get on well. Varad is now furious that Barney is buttering him up and asks him to leave. Was Varad irritated because Barney was buttering him up or was he angry at himself that Barney can leave when he thinks that he cannot mix with the people with whom he has to work with...while Varad does not have that option? Also people usually like being flattery, so why doesn't he? By the way why did Varaad become a journalist...he does not support the truth at home ...so did he become a journalist so that he can make up for it by reporting about the truth. Anyway Barney comes out of the office thinking that Jyoti's luck was not enough for him to get this job.

At night Barney is hanging his clothes to dry and when Jyoti says she will do it, he tells her that she should let him do his work (he is right here) and then he mentions Varad's name but Jytoi does not hear it because of the noise form the pressure cooker (will this come to play in the future?). Jyoti tells Barney that he should have faith on Bappa and that he will get the job and Barney says same to you...I mean he told her that she should follow her own advice and trust bappa..Then all problems in life will become small. Oh I definitely want him to enter the Agnihotri mansion. In fact he will be a good guide for honeypot. Although Jyoti was praying that if circumstances had been different she could have asked Varad to help Barney...but will involving Varad be a safe option?

The masala scene

Aditi tells Astha that she has saved her from getting her hands dirty and that she has really fulfilled the duties of a sister...so at the end will she understand her error?...I mean whatever issues she has regarding Shloke will become a non-issues because it will turn out to be a misunderstanding.

Aditi tells Astha that hatred is just on the outside the fire is much more bigger than that...is her stay being extended in the script? This is the change that I wrote about before. Most of us had guessed this part but are they now going for it.

Some questions...if Astha decides to shay back to protect Shloke and to right a wrong...Shloke's thought regarding escaping from the turth should be a wrong for Astha...will she change herself in the process? Also will it be Shloke who will then stop her? Or will she not change but show that she is changing...to be in the system to clean up the system

Originally posted by: jia.astk

Angie...as usual liked reading your write up.

These last lines :

But now I am rooting for Astha to go for a divorce though I know it is not going to happen. Sometimes one has to lose something precious before they realize its worth. Life does not give one so many opportunities. Though Shlok is my favorite character and I root for him, he is taking Astha too much for granted.

correctly said..though the romantic in me roots for no divorce ..the feminist in me screams separation is needed. Very much needed here, Shlok is taking Astha too much for granted and needs that big jolt/whack to bring him to reality. Astha might stay back due to wantever reason - to prove her undying love to Shlok or to unravel Aditi. My issue is if Astha stays back will she be molded as mini Anjali (though Astha is no Anajli), but she can change herself for Shlok's sake..if for his sake she says no to divorce 🤢. He will never understand her importance in his life unless she leaves, he will never get it. Is he really thinking that Astha is jealous of Aditi ..isn't it to just to answer Varad the other day! now that shows that he never trusted her isn't it?

edit: now I felt I was contradicting myself as I wrote in another my own post about his mistrust on her. So, what I meant is he might be giving the jealousy answer to Varad only and he does not actually believe in it. So he does not trust her and top it off thinks that Astha did all this out of jealousy or does not like Aditi!!😲