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Posted: 8 years ago
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Ecri & Bhavi
People were spamming Asif's Twitter handle with Qs about Sindhoor, so I was only taking a dig at them 😆

I would prefer Chandini being a rebel and not really following the norms of a marriage, but then I also need proper monologues from her to understand her POV.

The funny thing is, the director tweeted minutes before the episode asking the viewers to 'feel the touch' . Arre he was threatening her, kaahe ka feel ??? 😡

Ecri,

I saw a post on the main forum about the microphone issue so went back and re-watched the scene. Boy! That was anything but hot, romantic and other stuff people think it was. It was an act of pure menace 🤢 and Sobti was 👏👏

The china plate scene gave us assurance that Chandni can control the tap water that flows from her eyes non stop 😆 but Oreo toh waste hogaya naaa 😭

About Sobti: He is a goofball who is totally unaware of his talent. Had he been aware of me, he would have planned his career better. Where else do you see an actor who enacts a passionate scene to perfection and immediately starts jumping on the bed or gets excited seeing a mango cake? He is a single piece on this Earth 😆
Because he is unaware of his talent, he is purely driven his interest in the script and director's passion, so he is as good as his director is.


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Posted: 8 years ago
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Hey sush have been a silent reader of your posts 😳

I see your soft corner for chandini and I can't blame you for that!!

For a change unlike the standard fls of this ph here was a character sketch that was promised to us on paper and during the various launch ivs by makers and actors , it's one brilliant character but unfortunately for majority of viewers atleast for me the execution on screen the vision the director had or rather the lack of a vision about how chandini is supposed to be!!
The kuch bhi careless way of handling the character and the new actor thinking Sobti and Ritu there na so why take too much effort on the female lead messed it up but kudos to you for taking the pains to read her 😡 🥱

I stopped watching the show after the first week then caught up with scenes here and there but the ping pong of fls characterisation left me 😕 started watching again for Sobti and here I'm as of now the new revamped look and the kinda clean slate that they have magically brought in made me come here :D
because of the brilliant portrayal of Sobti I can understand the character of Advay to an extent despite the writing issues sadly his character is messed up to make us feel sympathetic towards the fl

my only issue was the maker and the writers built a flimsy excuse as foundation for his revenge
They could have just made him hate her because she's the daughter of the Vashisth family and thereby using her as his pawn in his revenge against Indrani!! What a painful but beautiful love story would it have been with his heart rooting for his childhood bestie and his brain trying to hate her for his loss
Thankfully his massi hate for Vashisth kandan is justified her issue is not with chandini but because she's part of the family!

Coming back to the story just wanted to share my understanding despite the inconsistencies and weekly character changes of chandini
the child who's been battling her whole life for acknowledgment affection from her mother despite knowing she's the step mother the lack of her father's involvement into her life aggravated this desperation to please Indrani here I do feel that despite she coming to know advay's true identity I doubt it'll be easy for her to just go into I hate Indrani mode because dev was her best friend her craving for acknowledgment from
The parent figure cannot be resolved just because dev is back in her life !! Indrani has read her Well and going by today's episode and precap Indrani is going to further manipulate her

Feel sorry for the girl who's stuck in this vicious cycle, according to me only Advay can heal her bring her out of this let me do things for ma naani sisters ke liye jhaap and finally dev himself when the truth is out.
Why I said Advay only can heal her is unlike her though dev the boy is wounded and seeking revenge a solution to his loss Advay the man has luckily been blessed with a sound happy family and once his misunderstanding of chandini's involvement is resolved he's in a position to help out chandini , he can be the bad guy to the real villains and be the Prince Charming to chandini!! Don't know if I made sense

The revamp has really made this show watchable not just for Sobti but overall it's become better all the makers need to concentrate is on carrying this forward I have no great expectations from the show as they've already messed it up royally but hail new beginnings!!

Chandini reason to remain in the marriage once again is her gratitude to Nani's kindness towards her when she was all alone neither her mother nor her patidev was there. It makes sense what chandini did but her physical reaction to proximity of Advay when he was spouting crass dialogues was 🥱 let's say momentarily hormones drowned out husky Patidev's voice but it would have been a good touch if there was a brain freeze moment where she's just shocked but goodness Sobti nailed that scene as the antihero who's at his menacing best he's not fallen for her nor was there any hint of love in his voice all he aimed for was to make her feel repulsed 😃 a girl getting attracted to a man is not wrong but going with her traumatic experience with that kidnapper it looked a bit odd her reactions to Advay had always been a what the

Advay has no remorse whatsoever though I feel his whole revenge against chandini jhaap has shifted to chandini's family

Nani though positive and I like her but her Cupid wala actions I don't understand
If she lost her daughter and son in law in the tragedy lost her eyesight knows who the true villain is Indrani then given her relationship with cheeku she just needs to have a proper heart to heart for him to wake up and smell the coffee

Revenge against the adults who destroyed his family makes sense not this going on targeting Chandini and her character

Unlike an Arnav who's root issue was the other woman in his parents life issue there though crass as it was the characterless jhaap was to an extent justified within the boundaries of creativity but here advay not trusting chandini Is ok because he's witnessing her maa ke liye jhaap on loop so as of now his animosity towards her seeing her undying devotion to her family the lady who's destroyed her dev's family makes sense but to keep insulting her and questioning et character dude your granny herself said there are girls waiting for you back in London here you've an issue with her having so called child you went ahead harassed a girl into a marriage giving her a condition of keeping her secret but goes ahead breaks all the things you promised and now you're going on calling her names
Writers Sobti can do only so much to salvage the shoddy writing stop messing his character to make us feel sympathetic towards chandini

Don't want to whine and spoil the mood for those enjoying the show but there's so much one can ignore in the name of creative liberty

after the big mess they're trying to make up so not going to be a spoilsport

All I expect when watching is some sought of consistency and this new but previously shown avatar of chandini was a much required step I don't expect her to give tit for tat nor do I want her to be crying 24/7 like today be firm but polite and just making it clear that she's not going to be a doormat 😆

Chalo we know all the rasams will be fulfilled not because Chandu decided nani ke liye but because the makers want us to watch the pair 😆 what will be fun is seeing telecom tycoon attempt to fulfill his promise but will fail 😉 failure can be contributed to him leaving behind his professor profession 😃

Chandini response to his touch I would like to say was messed by execution it was not supposed to be a romantic moment it was a retreating into her personal space though the camera focus on her heaving chest seemed to say otherwise and toe curling nothing to say for that

heck the man is as crass as Pp ATM so there's no room for romance

Wish the writers understood that illogical romance won't let people appreciate the chemistry of the leads if you can't relate to the characters and their actions showing them rabba veying will only get praises from the hormonal fans!!

Hoping to see chandini finally give back standing firmly for herself

Had a doubt

Nani was said to have lost her sight in the incident right so has Indrani recognised her? Knowing that lady's intelligence it won't be difficult for her to add one plus one and understand her enemy is back and her pawn is in enemy camp

She was looking too smug when chandini was talking

Pooja and her jokes was lame they can instead give a normal big sister bond with chandini

I love the massi but I hope they don't make her become the kitchen politics sass in moonlights life

As it is moonlight life is so entertaining :P
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Dreamer some very good points raised by you

Even when she knows he is Dev
she still may not hate her mom
For till now she loves Indrani the most

Advay will find it very hard to make her believe what Indrani did ll those years back

Indrani may or may not know Naani but I think she will know Leela
Once she knows he is Dev she will be vengeeful
Edited by 2filmy - 8 years ago
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Posted: 8 years ago
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I just fear Indrani may try to kill Naani or Advay
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Posted: 8 years ago
#75
Hi all..Got back from work and caught up with all the discussion..All the valid points have been raised already by everyone..loved the views ❤️ ❤️
what I like abt this thread is that I get to read views similar to mine... My views on Chandni - while I sympathize with the character, the actor fails to touch a chord ... Her inability to emote or is it just lack of screen presence.. or l just the inconsistent development of the character by the makers..I am still not sure.. but she fails to convince me...
Barun on the other hand is a delight to watch.. he's kept me going all these weeks...
The makers are still finding their feet with the characterizations..I want to give them another couple of weeks before I make up my mind totally abt the show..
The so called romance between the leads was contrived and uncalled for..How can Chandni feel romantic towards her ghatiya dushman.. .. oh the tyrannies of TRP pressures
Nani and Puja - the supposedly positive ones - need to be worked on too..But I'll give them more time..Right now I m enjoying reading your views and writing down mine ..😃

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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: Dreamer-89

Hey sush have been a silent reader of your posts 😳

I see your soft corner for chandini and I can't blame you for that!!

For a change unlike the standard fls of this ph here was a character sketch that was promised to us on paper and during the various launch ivs by makers and actors , it's one brilliant character but unfortunately for majority of viewers atleast for me the execution on screen the vision the director had or rather the lack of a vision about how chandini is supposed to be!!
The kuch bhi careless way of handling the character and the new actor thinking Sobti and Ritu there na so why take too much effort on the female lead messed it up but kudos to you for taking the pains to read her 😡 🥱

I stopped watching the show after the first week then caught up with scenes here and there but the ping pong of fls characterisation left me 😕 started watching again for Sobti and here I'm as of now the new revamped look and the kinda clean slate that they have magically brought in made me come here :D
because of the brilliant portrayal of Sobti I can understand the character of Advay to an extent despite the writing issues sadly his character is messed up to make us feel sympathetic towards the fl

my only issue was the maker and the writers built a flimsy excuse as foundation for his revenge
They could have just made him hate her because she's the daughter of the Vashisth family and thereby using her as his pawn in his revenge against Indrani!! What a painful but beautiful love story would it have been with his heart rooting for his childhood bestie and his brain trying to hate her for his loss
Thankfully his massi hate for Vashisth kandan is justified her issue is not with chandini but because she's part of the family!

Coming back to the story just wanted to share my understanding despite the inconsistencies and weekly character changes of chandini
the child who's been battling her whole life for acknowledgment affection from her mother despite knowing she's the step mother the lack of her father's involvement into her life aggravated this desperation to please Indrani here I do feel that despite she coming to know advay's true identity I doubt it'll be easy for her to just go into I hate Indrani mode because dev was her best friend her craving for acknowledgment from
The parent figure cannot be resolved just because dev is back in her life !! Indrani has read her Well and going by today's episode and precap Indrani is going to further manipulate her

Feel sorry for the girl who's stuck in this vicious cycle, according to me only Advay can heal her bring her out of this let me do things for ma naani sisters ke liye jhaap and finally dev himself when the truth is out.
Why I said Advay only can heal her is unlike her though dev the boy is wounded and seeking revenge a solution to his loss Advay the man has luckily been blessed with a sound happy family and once his misunderstanding of chandini's involvement is resolved he's in a position to help out chandini , he can be the bad guy to the real villains and be the Prince Charming to chandini!! Don't know if I made sense

The revamp has really made this show watchable not just for Sobti but overall it's become better all the makers need to concentrate is on carrying this forward I have no great expectations from the show as they've already messed it up royally but hail new beginnings!!

Chandini reason to remain in the marriage once again is her gratitude to Nani's kindness towards her when she was all alone neither her mother nor her patidev was there. It makes sense what chandini did but her physical reaction to proximity of Advay when he was spouting crass dialogues was 🥱 let's say momentarily hormones drowned out husky Patidev's voice but it would have been a good touch if there was a brain freeze moment where she's just shocked but goodness Sobti nailed that scene as the antihero who's at his menacing best he's not fallen for her nor was there any hint of love in his voice all he aimed for was to make her feel repulsed 😃 a girl getting attracted to a man is not wrong but going with her traumatic experience with that kidnapper it looked a bit odd her reactions to Advay had always been a what the

Advay has no remorse whatsoever though I feel his whole revenge against chandini jhaap has shifted to chandini's family

Nani though positive and I like her but her Cupid wala actions I don't understand
If she lost her daughter and son in law in the tragedy lost her eyesight knows who the true villain is Indrani then given her relationship with cheeku she just needs to have a proper heart to heart for him to wake up and smell the coffee

Revenge against the adults who destroyed his family makes sense not this going on targeting Chandini and her character

Unlike an Arnav who's root issue was the other woman in his parents life issue there though crass as it was the characterless jhaap was to an extent justified within the boundaries of creativity but here advay not trusting chandini Is ok because he's witnessing her maa ke liye jhaap on loop so as of now his animosity towards her seeing her undying devotion to her family the lady who's destroyed her dev's family makes sense but to keep insulting her and questioning et character dude your granny herself said there are girls waiting for you back in London here you've an issue with her having so called child you went ahead harassed a girl into a marriage giving her a condition of keeping her secret but goes ahead breaks all the things you promised and now you're going on calling her names
Writers Sobti can do only so much to salvage the shoddy writing stop messing his character to make us feel sympathetic towards chandini

Don't want to whine and spoil the mood for those enjoying the show but there's so much one can ignore in the name of creative liberty

after the big mess they're trying to make up so not going to be a spoilsport

All I expect when watching is some sought of consistency and this new but previously shown avatar of chandini was a much required step I don't expect her to give tit for tat nor do I want her to be crying 24/7 like today be firm but polite and just making it clear that she's not going to be a doormat 😆

Chalo we know all the rasams will be fulfilled not because Chandu decided nani ke liye but because the makers want us to watch the pair 😆 what will be fun is seeing telecom tycoon attempt to fulfill his promise but will fail 😉 failure can be contributed to him leaving behind his professor profession 😃

Chandini response to his touch I would like to say was messed by execution it was not supposed to be a romantic moment it was a retreating into her personal space though the camera focus on her heaving chest seemed to say otherwise and toe curling nothing to say for that

heck the man is as crass as Pp ATM so there's no room for romance

Wish the writers understood that illogical romance won't let people appreciate the chemistry of the leads if you can't relate to the characters and their actions showing them rabba veying will only get praises from the hormonal fans!!

Hoping to see chandini finally give back standing firmly for herself

Had a doubt

Nani was said to have lost her sight in the incident right so has Indrani recognised her? Knowing that lady's intelligence it won't be difficult for her to add one plus one and understand her enemy is back and her pawn is in enemy camp

She was looking too smug when chandini was talking

Pooja and her jokes was lame they can instead give a normal big sister bond with chandini

I love the massi but I hope they don't make her become the kitchen politics sass in moonlights life

As it is moonlight life is so entertaining :P


Summarised well, Dreamer.👏

To answer your question- I think they only mean she lost her eyesight in the trauma of losing her beloved daughter and son in law and one grandchild... must mean she had a stroke in the shock.
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Posted: 8 years ago
#77
I think there is more chance of Indrani knowing Leela than Naani
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Posted: 8 years ago
#78

Originally posted by: Dreamer-89

Hey sush have been a silent reader of your posts 😳

I see your soft corner for chandini and I can't blame you for that!!

For a change unlike the standard fls of this ph here was a character sketch that was promised to us on paper and during the various launch ivs by makers and actors , it's one brilliant character but unfortunately for majority of viewers atleast for me the execution on screen the vision the director had or rather the lack of a vision about how chandini is supposed to be!!
The kuch bhi careless way of handling the character and the new actor thinking Sobti and Ritu there na so why take too much effort on the female lead messed it up but kudos to you for taking the pains to read her 😡 🥱

I stopped watching the show after the first week then caught up with scenes here and there but the ping pong of fls characterisation left me 😕 started watching again for Sobti and here I'm as of now the new revamped look and the kinda clean slate that they have magically brought in made me come here :D
because of the brilliant portrayal of Sobti I can understand the character of Advay to an extent despite the writing issues sadly his character is messed up to make us feel sympathetic towards the fl

my only issue was the maker and the writers built a flimsy excuse as foundation for his revenge
They could have just made him hate her because she's the daughter of the Vashisth family and thereby using her as his pawn in his revenge against Indrani!! What a painful but beautiful love story would it have been with his heart rooting for his childhood bestie and his brain trying to hate her for his loss
Thankfully his massi hate for Vashisth kandan is justified her issue is not with chandini but because she's part of the family!

Coming back to the story just wanted to share my understanding despite the inconsistencies and weekly character changes of chandini
the child who's been battling her whole life for acknowledgment affection from her mother despite knowing she's the step mother the lack of her father's involvement into her life aggravated this desperation to please Indrani here I do feel that despite she coming to know advay's true identity I doubt it'll be easy for her to just go into I hate Indrani mode because dev was her best friend her craving for acknowledgment from
The parent figure cannot be resolved just because dev is back in her life !! Indrani has read her Well and going by today's episode and precap Indrani is going to further manipulate her

Feel sorry for the girl who's stuck in this vicious cycle, according to me only Advay can heal her bring her out of this let me do things for ma naani sisters ke liye jhaap and finally dev himself when the truth is out.
Why I said Advay only can heal her is unlike her though dev the boy is wounded and seeking revenge a solution to his loss Advay the man has luckily been blessed with a sound happy family and once his misunderstanding of chandini's involvement is resolved he's in a position to help out chandini , he can be the bad guy to the real villains and be the Prince Charming to chandini!! Don't know if I made sense

The revamp has really made this show watchable not just for Sobti but overall it's become better all the makers need to concentrate is on carrying this forward I have no great expectations from the show as they've already messed it up royally but hail new beginnings!!

Chandini reason to remain in the marriage once again is her gratitude to Nani's kindness towards her when she was all alone neither her mother nor her patidev was there. It makes sense what chandini did but her physical reaction to proximity of Advay when he was spouting crass dialogues was 🥱 let's say momentarily hormones drowned out husky Patidev's voice but it would have been a good touch if there was a brain freeze moment where she's just shocked but goodness Sobti nailed that scene as the antihero who's at his menacing best he's not fallen for her nor was there any hint of love in his voice all he aimed for was to make her feel repulsed 😃 a girl getting attracted to a man is not wrong but going with her traumatic experience with that kidnapper it looked a bit odd her reactions to Advay had always been a what the

Advay has no remorse whatsoever though I feel his whole revenge against chandini jhaap has shifted to chandini's family

Nani though positive and I like her but her Cupid wala actions I don't understand
If she lost her daughter and son in law in the tragedy lost her eyesight knows who the true villain is Indrani then given her relationship with cheeku she just needs to have a proper heart to heart for him to wake up and smell the coffee

Revenge against the adults who destroyed his family makes sense not this going on targeting Chandini and her character

Unlike an Arnav who's root issue was the other woman in his parents life issue there though crass as it was the characterless jhaap was to an extent justified within the boundaries of creativity but here advay not trusting chandini Is ok because he's witnessing her maa ke liye jhaap on loop so as of now his animosity towards her seeing her undying devotion to her family the lady who's destroyed her dev's family makes sense but to keep insulting her and questioning et character dude your granny herself said there are girls waiting for you back in London here you've an issue with her having so called child you went ahead harassed a girl into a marriage giving her a condition of keeping her secret but goes ahead breaks all the things you promised and now you're going on calling her names
Writers Sobti can do only so much to salvage the shoddy writing stop messing his character to make us feel sympathetic towards chandini

Don't want to whine and spoil the mood for those enjoying the show but there's so much one can ignore in the name of creative liberty

after the big mess they're trying to make up so not going to be a spoilsport

All I expect when watching is some sought of consistency and this new but previously shown avatar of chandini was a much required step I don't expect her to give tit for tat nor do I want her to be crying 24/7 like today be firm but polite and just making it clear that she's not going to be a doormat 😆

Chalo we know all the rasams will be fulfilled not because Chandu decided nani ke liye but because the makers want us to watch the pair 😆 what will be fun is seeing telecom tycoon attempt to fulfill his promise but will fail 😉 failure can be contributed to him leaving behind his professor profession 😃

Chandini response to his touch I would like to say was messed by execution it was not supposed to be a romantic moment it was a retreating into her personal space though the camera focus on her heaving chest seemed to say otherwise and toe curling nothing to say for that

heck the man is as crass as Pp ATM so there's no room for romance

Wish the writers understood that illogical romance won't let people appreciate the chemistry of the leads if you can't relate to the characters and their actions showing them rabba veying will only get praises from the hormonal fans!!

Hoping to see chandini finally give back standing firmly for herself

Had a doubt

Nani was said to have lost her sight in the incident right so has Indrani recognised her? Knowing that lady's intelligence it won't be difficult for her to add one plus one and understand her enemy is back and her pawn is in enemy camp

She was looking too smug when chandini was talking

Pooja and her jokes was lame they can instead give a normal big sister bond with chandini

I love the massi but I hope they don't make her become the kitchen politics sass in moonlights life

As it is moonlight life is so entertaining :P


Dreamer...see my answer on the next page...

We all love Barun Sobti...but let's go beyond that and talk about something else...
Edited by -Sush- - 8 years ago
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Posted: 8 years ago
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HI Guys,
I have been missing in action...Needed to detox...still may need more of that...
Haven't seen today's episode ...so this is without that...

The thing is...I am finding myself at odds with the board...most people in any case...

Most people find it difficult to connect to Chandani...I feel like she is the only character I connect to, feel for...(I am liking Puja also...but it is too early)
Most people want Chandani to give it back...fight. I feel like it is the other characters who need to vocalize less (specially Advay...My goodness, why does he have to keep repeating all the venom about her being charcaterless, not caring for the family...not understanding anything...BLAH BLAH BLAH...like seriously man? Any one losing respect in my eyes...is you...who is talking nonsense, at every opportunity...ok may be due to some MUs...but do you really have to keep saying so much??) BACK OFF DUDE!!! Think more and speak less!!

I don't find Chandani to be very inconsistent or a cry baby or a weakling...Her issue is that she thinks about everyone else before her own interest and ego, is emotional and is not the one to pick fights...I am actually so relieved that she is not like a typical soap heroine, who walks around with a chip on her shoulder...giving it back to everyone...because she is somehow better than everyone and must spread her gyan...In fact the reason I stopped watching IPK2, which I watched for a few episode and the reason I got turned off ETRETR...was because the FL leads talked so much...and most of it was not wise any way...

Ok, there...I said it...Perhaps I am the odd ball...and no point just saying my POV again and again if there are no takers o no one else feels the same...
Edited by -Sush- - 8 years ago
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You're not an odd ball, Sush. People like you and I are just in the minority 😆

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