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Posted: 8 years ago

#11

Originally posted by: -Shwets-
Hi Sush ,

Thanks for opening a post .I didn't like the episode " PERIOD " don't want to rant and ruin your thread .

"In time we hate that which we often fear.

~ William Shakespeare

Shwets ...I think i will take a break from making posts...My conscience will make me write things ...that will potentially impede story telling and enjoyment ...and that is not fair...either to the writers or to the other viewers...

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Posted: 8 years ago

#12

Originally posted by: -Sush-

Shwets ...I think i will take a break from making posts...My conscience will make me write things ...that will potentially impede story telling and enjoyment ...and that is not fair...either to the writers or to the other viewers...

Sush ,

Hope my post has not compelled you to this decision .

I had major issues with the writing and direction here is an e.g. ...

Nani tells the family members Advay is done with taking his revenge 😲 no emotions from Chandni ????? Was the director sleeping ??

I have to connect with both the leads to enjoy a show ...I just can't connect with Chandni ( no fault of the actress ) ...the fault is attributed to the writer and director .

Edited by -Shwets- - 8 years ago

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Posted: 8 years ago

#13

Originally posted by: -Shwets-

Sush ,

Hope my post has not compelled you to this decision .

I had major issues with the writing anddirection ...Nani tells the familymembers Advay is done with taking his revenge😲no emotions from Chandni ????? Wasthedirector sleeping ??

I have to connect with both the leads to enjoy a show ...I have not yet connected with Chandni ( no fault ofthe actress ) ...the fault lies with the writer and director .

I agree with this ..why is chandni not questioning what Motive did advey have to come as an imposter and marry her forcefully ...and then abandon her .. kya Dushmani ..

She could have told advey u knew I had a kid why are u saying I cheated u that is how u lack mail me in Shadi .. I did not cheat u

I also love it that there is a big fat MU between them of chandni being an unwed Mom

Advey will not like if .. he has to start becoming attracted to her then this jealousy and possessiveness ...till now he has not been attracted to her ..
that only original thunderbolt rabba vey is missing
It could have been better if she came to avenge her dishonour .. but then some people would not like it ..

Murali Nani fit more in the Mumbai house then in London professor life .. tanatan does not fit in UK 😳

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PSharada

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Posted: 8 years ago

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Sush - Very Nice take. After yesterday when I was wavering a bit because I wanted a conflicted Dev/Advay thing today's episode brought be right back in even when Advay was full on ass. Right now Advay is raging bull and that is why he is not seeing things clearly but Nani is right - For that raging bull only a girl of immense strength is what is needed.

First of all - I totally don't favor violence of any kind be it mentally, physically or emotionally. So for me the thing I am happy about is the fact that as long as Nani is around Advay can't hurt Chandni too bad. People like Nani are so so rare - One who suffered so much yet is not bitter and willing to look into good for each person. To go to that Zen state is very hard. I totally liked the small fact that before the elders started their blame games Nani asks Murli to take Adi out - Kids should be spared from these kind of things. They are innocent and let's not taint their mind with poisonous words. And the telling thing was Nani's "Ab Aage badho" - Move on. It would have been so hard for her to come to acceptance that her daughter is dead along with her husband and younger grandson but she still is willing to move on and spread happiness. No mother can live through the death of her child and not feel bitter. So kudos to her for being a right person and bringing back Chandni to her husband's place. And I totally liked her threat that if Advay still tries to throw Chandni out she will go with her. So as long as Nani is there I am not too worried about any abuse that Advay might do to Chandni.

And for the first time today I felt for Chandni - She is basically stuck. Her family is humiliated, she has been left by her husband. She doesn't come by because Nani calls her - She comes because the society doesn't allow her family to be in peace. Is it cruel and inhuman. Yes it is. But that happens in real life. And it is not limited to only rural areas - many educated families too allow/force their daughters to go back to their marital home because of society fears. And now can the writer sahiba show a Chandni who walks out after the MUs are cleared saying that she had enough of abuse and she wants to move on and that her self-esteem and respect can't be beaten down every time there is a trust issue. Please I really hope they show that. Advay needs to repent for hurting Chandni and needs to earn his way back.

Right now all the interactions of Chandni and Advay happened in V's house where she had the luxury of being surrounded by her sisters and loving Mama. Now she will be alone. Right now both assume the worst in each other so they need to see each other's interactions and come out of their own set prejudices. And I think the major link in that is going to be Adi - who is the innocent party here. Once Advay starts to see who Chandni is and how selfless she is - He is going to try to look for other things in her and finally when the MU of the baby gets cleared he will understand her innate goodness. He needs to fall in a love a little before Indrani makes her move because if Indrani tries to hurt Chandni he needs to be ready to save her and protect her.

Please do keep on making the posts because some times your thoughts make my feelings quite clear and I totally enjoy reading them.

@Shewts: - I think Chandni is going to ask Advay what badla he is talking about and what nafrat but I think she is going to get cryptic answers only and that will happen until she discovers that Advay is Dev.

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-Sush-

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Posted: 8 years ago

#15

Originally posted by: -Shwets-

Sush ,

Hope my post has not compelled you to this decision .

I had major issues with the writing and direction here is an e.g. ...

Nani tells the family members Advay is done with taking his revenge 😲 no emotions from Chandni ????? Was the director sleeping ??

I have to connect with both the leads to enjoy a show ...I just can't connect with Chandni ( no fault of the actress ) ...the fault is attributed to the writer and director .

No ...nothing you said...just struggling to write about other characters without being too critical...It's a story...I need to back off and let them tell it...This is too much writing for every single thing...

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csueb

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Posted: 8 years ago

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I understand that grandmother has found the courage to forgive /forget the family who destroyed her own daughter but trying to emotionally lure the grandson or anyone isn't right...she asks him to promise that he would never leave Chandni knowing fully well that he hates her...she would be tortured...? Like seriously? What century is Indian society in?

Apart from her been the moral compass...I believe it's extremely dangerous for her to suggest they live together in such circumstances...in reality, it's not that easy to forget one's parent's murder...

I know I might be criticized for this but I really don't think anyone has the right to decide whether one should remain married or not other than the people involved...it's beyond my imagination...so just manipulate them to stay married ...just because she wears red vermilion and a string ...when she knows that the grandson is abusive to the girl...and knowing he hates her...well, how is it fair to the woman...isn't the grandmother imposing her decisions and pushing Chandni for more abuse... been a wise lady doesn't she know that this is not just a mere misunderstanding which a couple can work with but here the history between them is gruesome...she wants everyone to move on...but how is it possible when she wasn't forthright in disclosing that it's not Chandni's child...I really don't know what to say about the FL...I work at a shelter with abused women...I see them fighting for a chance to overcome their past ...fighting to stand up against all odds...so here I have no sympathy for any woman to chooses to suffer because that was her choice...there are consequences...maybe I am from a different planet because this is ridiculous.

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Posted: 8 years ago

#17

Originally posted by: PSharada

@Shewts: - I think Chandni is going to ask Advay what badla he is talking about and what nafrat but I think she is going to get cryptic answers only and that will happen until she discovers that Advay is Dev.

The issue is not what will happen in the next few episodes ...The camera should have been on Chandni's questionable expression ...which we didn't get .

Unfortunately the only dialogues which made sense ( as cruel & crass it sounded ) to me was Advay questioning Chandni about her return ...there were a rainbow of expression in a matter of a min from Barun...

Edited by -Shwets- - 8 years ago

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zeal11

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Posted: 8 years ago

#18

I like BS lot yes yes but ASR no no no no big way NO. If he wants to revenge her, do with class dude not like this. She is not trash, rag doll to be pulled n pushed by everyone. I didn't like Nani also here. She is being selfish n forcing Chandani on ASR.
My heart really really goes to Chandani 😭 I know from where she is coming. She has just become a lifeless doll. She needs time to speak n fight. Please stand yourself soon.
ASR buddy just divorce her if u had just wanted her 1 night. But no, idiot is not doing that also. N hey r u upset that she didn't wait n slept with u, so that's y always torturing her with shame n characterless words.. Sick dude.. 🤢

I just want FL to kick ML ass ASAP

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Mandy

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Posted: 8 years ago

#19

@Csueb:

Gul and Harneet like to make a mockery of and trivialise serious issues! They treat everything so frivolously and has nothing but contempt for their own sex! They both should be banned from making / writing shows! They have really crossed all limits and SP should be done too! Sorry this is NOT Entertainment this is BS! Utter crap in the name of intense romance? What romance? It's just an abusive guy and an Abala sacrificing Nari's hate story!

Sush I am sorry but this story has nothing in it, other than showing a woman being abused for entertainment in Prime time Indian TV. No offence guys, but if this is what you consider entertainment in India, no wonder women have such a hard time! Why not buy some popcorn too?

Edited by MrDarcyfan - 8 years ago

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-Sush-

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Posted: 8 years ago

#20

Originally posted by: MrDarcyfan
@Csueb:

Gul and Harneet like to make a mockery of and trivialise serious issues! They treat everything so frivolously and has nothing but contempt for their own sex! They both should be banned from making / writing shows! They have really crossed all limits and SP should be done too! Sorry this is NOT Entertainment this is BS! Utter crap in the name of intense romance? What romance? It's just an abusive guy and an Abala sacrificing Nari's hate story!

Sush I am sorry but this story has nothing in it, other than showing a woman being abused for entertainment in Prime time Indian TV. No offence guys, but if this is what you consider entertainment in India, no wonder women have such a hard time! Why not buy some popcorn too?

I think they are just telling an emotional story My DF...I don't think their intent is to glorify emotional abuse...I think artists deserve room to tell their story...without being judged on every move...

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