goodbye post surbhi never stood a chance

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Posted: 6 years ago
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the writing was on the wall but we didn't see it. no picture for spa awards until fans protested. after daksh defeat a sudden 180 with mohit and surbhi and annika 's character being sidelined. now all of a sudden gul has money for promotions upon promotions, bringing in respected senior actors and even launching a new show when surbhi was wearing the same outfit for weeks on end. truth be told i have a serious feeling that trps will be high or stable tomorrow and gul and the ph will have the last laugh.

die hard nm fans are already liking the new character, jodi and new season. to each his own. kudos to all those fans who tried and are still trying to give closure to their broken hearts who followed a journey for 2.7 years (will continue to support you) and within a weekend was bombared with this new product.


will continue to remain a silent member until some good news comes but true shivika fans brace yourselves for whatever is to come and i hope you have the heart to bear it.



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Posted: 6 years ago
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This isn't about whether or not they get some ratings for the leap. Die hard NM fans can continue with their forced praise of the leap, it won't change the truth about the C grade quality of the show right now.

Everyone has their own reasons for what they want to do in the short term. In the long term though, Shivika will live on as icons. No one can change that. Not these petty PR games or lame fan wars b/w individual fans.

This isn't just about sabotaging SC. The makers totally lost interest in continuing Shivika so they sabotaged them overall.

What money for promotions? Lol this is the standard promotion they do for any track. Even Mohit and his stupid helicopter and that Mandana got this much promotion only. So why crying so much over Supriya P ki entry? Gul wants to continue the show in her ego, that's her problem. But overall nothing has changed. Only the show has become quite obviously D grade and SP/PH just look sad trying to promote it. lol
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Posted: 6 years ago
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Originally posted by: AreYaar

This isn't about whether or not they get some ratings for the leap. Die hard NM fans can continue with their forced praise of the leap, it won't change the truth about the C grade quality of the show right now.

Everyone has their own reasons for what they want to do in the short term. In the long term though, Shivika will live on as icons. No one can change that. Not these petty PR games or lame fan wars b/w individual fans.

This isn't just about sabotaging SC. The makers totally lost interest in continuing Shivika so they sabotaged them overall.

What money for promotions? Lol this is the standard promotion they do for any track. Even Mohit and his stupid helicopter and that Mandana got this much promotion only. So why crying so much over Supriya P ki entry? Gul wants to continue the show in her ego, that's her problem. But overall nothing has changed. Only the show has become quite obviously D grade and SP/PH just look sad trying to promote it. lol


@bold...Cannot disagree to this...basically makers lost interest in Shivika...yes they came up with redux which was supposed to be an Alternate journey ...but after the initial set back both from online audience and trps, they simply left Shivika story to be run on auto pilot mode...

never worked on making things work for characters or story...just kept getting the characters from RU and doing rinse repeat along with reboots...whether they make sense or apt for characters...well they kept flipping the characters too many times that we failed to connect with them...

yes I do remember the amount of promotion Mohit and Nancy track got...but that track itself was so lame...neither Mohit as character had some good role nor Nancy nor even Shivika...they simply made Shivaay run away from home and Annika cry...and they dragged that track for a month..god...i twas one awful track...

For now the story looks an altered version of redux story only...only now Shivaansh believes in love and FL doesn't believe in love and marriage
and both leads have some sad past just like in redux..only the way the characters behave are different...Shivaansh is fun loving type and FL is no nonsense type...even the scenes look similar from what I have seen from caps...and again the ACP doing stunts just like Bhavya before except the flying wale...

Well there is no doubt that Shivika are iconic and will remain so...if the makers really want to surpass the Shivika standards then they need a strong writing team...
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Posted: 6 years ago
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@itihaas: I don't think the makers are interested in living up to or outdoing Shivika. This is just business as usual for them. A cookie cutter so called love story with cliched characters. There is no interest in nuance or depth on any front.

They want to continue for the sake of it and some ppl will watch just for the sake of it. Not for any real attachment beyond staring at NM's face. Lol although I personally find it hard to even look at his face now given this awful look that doesn't suit him one bit. But to each their own *shrugs*
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Posted: 6 years ago
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Originally posted by: AreYaar

@itihaas: I don't think the makers are interested in living up to or outdoing Shivika. This is just business as usual for them. A cookie cutter so called love story with cliched characters. There is no interest in nuance or depth on any front.

They want to continue for the sake of it and some ppl will watch just for the sake of it. Not for any real attachment beyond staring at NM's face. Lol although I personally find it hard to even look at his face now given this awful look that doesn't suit him one bit. But to each their own *shrugs*


@bold...you might be right...its business as usual for them..

if it works then all good and they can give it back to fans...and if doesn't work also, no loss..waise hi show was to shut shop in December...any thing more is a bonus...

whether or not leap works we dont know...TRP audience we never know...😆
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Posted: 6 years ago
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Originally posted by: AreYaar

@itihaas: I don't think the makers are interested in living up to or outdoing Shivika. This is just business as usual for them. A cookie cutter so called love story with cliched characters. There is no interest in nuance or depth on any front.

They want to continue for the sake of it and some ppl will watch just for the sake of it. Not for any real attachment beyond staring at NM's face. Lol although I personally find it hard to even look at his face now given this awful look that doesn't suit him one bit. But to each their own *shrugs*


Absolutely agreed it's now reduced to a typical love story, albeit its way too pedestrian. Staring at NM's face is also not possible the new look is way too distracting for me personally & every time I see Shivaansh I am reminded of Rudy & the new girl Bhavya. My grouse is if the writer & makers lost interest in Shivika, they could have given them a decent end & started off with a new show itself. But then I forget for a new show to happen effort is needed in the writing department, the current fare is a redux of the redux with some changes here & there.
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Posted: 6 years ago
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Originally posted by: Likiya_100

No sane business person would want to leave something which reap them benefits.

Since inception of redux ratings went low which crossed 2+ once wedding was done & stayed consistent till daksh exit.any Maker's of sane mind would than move on to explore the Dynamics of leads but here we got jaadugar out of nowhere still show bounced back & Maker's again went for tej murder & PTSD tracks which served no purpose be it ratings or social messages.
Gul claimed show wasn't doing good & shivika aren't working when actually there was no Annika since jaadugar track.it was only glorification of sso & his mahanta yet it's sc who faced the burnt costing her this show.
Coming to leap seems audience already accepted new storyline & Jodi cos when I called up they said why would we scrap leap when it's getting numbers.
Also online fans also seem to have accepted new Jodi already.
Trps or no this show isn't going anywhere for atleast 6 months as star has no other show lined up.
I doubt gul would have active participation because she has another show coming up so again ib is left at Mercy of hs who is busy rebooting tracks.i really for once hope hs fullfilles every fantasy of her with regards to shivaay/NM & move on.i really can't take obsession with one characy/actor Being reasons for show to have such pathetic storyline.
All in all everyone moved on with new leap/Jodi already gaining acceptance as per sp themselves.
& Now I hope sc gets better projects which justify her talent & gets her some more limelight.
P.s. did Disney takeover starindia or gul over starpluss.


Personally I feel it's NM's fan base which is very accepting of the leap. Yes absolute monstrosity was the jadugar track & downhill from there. Do you think the layered writer has a script to take this forward for 6 months, unless she plans to get Shivaansh & Aditi married & remarried multiple times to drag the story. With wonderful cast & crew the lady could not come up with a decent story, what is she going to show now?
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Posted: 6 years ago
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Originally posted by: Likiya_100

NM fans I understand but the fact that channel said they r getting trps Is what makes me feel they would want to continue show.
Coming to trps Ib has been very lucky in that front.leap being heavily promoted in each break,from no repeat telecast to two telecasts at prime noon,heavy promotions through segments clubbed with shivika murder mystery can bring trps for a month or two which is long enough to establish a base for coming months.


well the last 2 weeks TRPs are above 2 and that might be what Star said...and the TRP that we will get now is also for last week episodes...leap only started this week and hte TRP will come next Thursday...

yes IB has been very lucky with numbers and redux did survive for 6 months even with so pathetic writing and some very low numbers...

and with heavy promotion on TV with the Shivika murder mystery might get the numbers...redux was not promoted on TV as like leap is being promoted..

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Posted: 6 years ago
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Originally posted by: Likiya_100

no I was specific regarding ratings.

They do seem to keep track of daily ratings like biz asia does.so they were clear when I asked whether these r ratings of pre leap or for first two epsiodes of leap.
Well show chale ya na chale.jodi chale ya na chale ib was done for me when SC shot her last .So I wouldn't bother watching.


well then it might be true...see the way they kept hanging the Shivika track and then started the leap, it was bound to create curiosity na...like how Shivika survived and how Shivaansh came...

they kind of kept the death of Shivika a mystery...and I think it will be for 2 weeks...and already established the back stories with some connection to leads...

how long will writers be able to hold on to the story, time will tell...

or those officers could be bluffing so that fans back out !


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Posted: 6 years ago
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Originally posted by: Likiya_100

no I was specific regarding ratings.

They do seem to keep track of daily ratings like biz asia does.so they were clear when I asked whether these r ratings of pre leap or for first two epsiodes of leap.
Well show chale ya na chale.jodi chale ya na chale ib was done for me when SC shot her last .So I wouldn't bother watching.

okay you mean first two episodes got numbers...
and it's just 3 days old..
editing the reply as I thought they said,first two week's numbers😆

Shivika is already destroyed and we couldn't do anything...
we have nothing to lose now...so, just be happy.
If it works Gul's ego will be satisfied, she may gain some money but at the end one day ... it's her show ..no one will remember this fan vs producer fight but her work will be here to tell her story.. just like QH ...😆

If we win? we won't get anything...shivika are lost, none of us want SC to be back in this mess...so really doesn't matter.

what is lost. is lost forever ...we tried to save the show we thought unique...but we failed..but the loss is not ours!!
I have learned a lot during this short one month's span😆
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