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Posted: 6 years ago
#21
Anyhow this is the end to my responses to this topic because I feel people here are more interested in my DP than my points
I never said a word against the real Anika nor did I compare her with the original one. The passing reference about her in my original post was simply to state what I consider resgressive since till then I had no clue if or not this Anika behaved similarly for her patni thoughts
She is completely irrelevant to me in this post. It is simply about what the current AU Anika did post Shivaaye was out of the jail. I am neither commenting on the history of this character nor her version in the RU. Yet since those lines are creating confusion so I am editing those lines . And about other shows characters I never mentioned so wouldn't comment

I thought that here we can have meaningful discussion but here all the discussions are about how I shouldn't have made a post despite not being a Anika fan, if that is the criteria here to make a post I didn't know about it and would never again post about Anika since neither am I interested in this forum nor any character in the current redux is so likable that I would have to stay here at any cost I expected an honest discussion and not biased charge of desperately trying to enter your space

You people might continue if you want or get this topic closed
Edited by FlauntPessimism - 6 years ago
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Posted: 6 years ago
#22

Originally posted by: Niyati_21

Now a days most of the post start with disclosure ..

" I am not watching IB since long, so don't know much and so on ... "

Well , then i wish u watched the show, u wud hv been saved from complaining and others like us would not have to explain basics in detail again and again and MU wud hv been saved.


So many assumptions and POVs are made based on selective epis , scenes, WU and caps and Most Importantly others POV.


Now as my frnds said we like RU Anika but we hv complain with the Pati Patni dialogue which is there in almost all epis of Redux... that's the ans by Anika for all of Shivaa's questions .. And this complain we have with dialogue writer .


@bold...well said Nits...

This has been the new disclosure for many of the posts and the comments in this forum...having a POV is not an issue based on what you saw but then when people who watch the episodes every day point out the gaps with the points/assumptions made to what was shown in the episodes , it goes into deaf ears...and like Nihara said, we keep going on and on like old tape recorders in rewind mode repeating the same things over and over again...

Coming to the main point that is the basis for the post, yes we did have complaints about the number of times pati/patni dialogues were used by Annika in almost each of the her interaction with Shivaay...

From the redux start, Annika has shown to be the one who believes in marriage and will do everything in her power to maintain that relationship and on other hand we have Shivaay who doesn't believe in marriage and the reasons of these have been because of the past of their respective parents...
Interestingly both, Shivaay' dad and Annika's mom had committed adultery but the way it affected both of them as individuals is different...while Shivaay lost his faith in institution of marriage, Annika believes and has faith in that very same marriage...

Having faith in marriage and holding on marriage is no way regressive... in India even today more than 50% of marriages are arranged and couples stick to their marriage because some fell in love then after and some because of just being married...now is that called regressive ? I don't think so because its finally the choice of individuals...

If you had watched the episodes you would have understood clearly that what ever conversation that Shivika had could well be done with out using the pati-patni jaap in every sentence...and still the overall intent of what writers are trying to convey would have been conveyed...
that's the problem...its just cringe worthy to keep hearing I am your wife so X , I am your wife and so Y and so on...
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Posted: 6 years ago
#23
Now I'm totally confused. All of you like Anika or not? 🤓

😆 😆
Edited by sunita_raj - 6 years ago
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Posted: 6 years ago
#24

Originally posted by: sunita_raj

Now I'm totally confused. All of you like Anika or not? 🤓

😆 😆


🤣🤣

Dharmsankat mein dal Diya sab log milke😆

Ppl r just complaining abt repeated dialogues for AU Annika😆
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Posted: 6 years ago
#25

Originally posted by: --Risha--

Okay I don't usually comment on this forum anymore as a rule but I'm not going to sit back and accept a blind-sighted take on my Annika (the real one). Esp because it triggers me when people think this joke of a caricature is better 😆

First of all, for people comparing ArShi and ShivIka; you need to rewatch IPK and IB, both. Have you not seen the way Arnav used to treat Khushi? He'd humiliate her even after their marriage. He threw her out of his room and made her sleep on the floor by the pool. Yet, Khushi stayed. Annika walked out of Shivaay's room herself and indirectly ended up torturing him for it. Shivaay was able to figure out Annika's innocence in 2-3 days but Arnav took months. In private or in public, Shivaay always respected Annika but Arnav could be barbaric to her. If you've seen IB and IPK both, you'll clearly be able to see how regressive Arnav is when compared to SSO and how much more Annika holds her individuality dear when compared to Khushi (this is coming from an ArShi fan)

Also, you're asking why people are comparing Real ANnika with the new one here; you have done that in your OG post yourself by saying she's much better for not begging for her place.

I'd like to remind you that in the Memory Loss epis, Annika was the one who pushed SHivaay into marrying Tia. Now you can argue that that was a "plan" but if you've seen all the epis you'd know that was clearly ANnika pushing SSO to make a decision about their marriage. THeir conversation by the pool - with SSO being practically the one who was pretty much begging (under the facade of anger) for her to take back her words. IMO, in the real world, it was always Annika who held back, refused to give herself to SSO and commit completely while he was the one who'd practically be prodding and pinning for SOME kind of reaction from her. the entire Memory Loss track was basically SSO trying to get a reaction from Annika. If that isn't holding your own, then I don't know what it *shrugs*

On to your point about this Annika holding dear the values of marriage. Of course there's no problem if you choose to think that marriage is the most valuable thing in the world to you, as long as you're doing it with your own choice. Now, I haven't watched the episodes of this redux but from what I understand, Annika has no existence EXCEPT the shadee. She has no individuality, no defining characteristics, no charm, no hobbies and definitely no uniqueness. THAT's the problem. Real Annika was funny, charismatic, angry, emotional, and aced a myriad of other distinctive personality traits. THis Annika either cries or pushes SHivaay to accept her. There's literally no other roop of hers. (Fellow ShivIkans, correct me if I'm wrong about this last one since I'm not properly in touch).

There's a reason ShivIka fans feel disconnected with these laughable, depthless caricatures of our OG OTP. And that's all I'll say here :)


Welcome back Risha 😊
Thank you so much for lucidly writing what many of us want to say.

I am a bit puzzled as to why those people who were apathetic/disdainful for Annika have suddenly turned into her advocates,especially ones who do not watch the show regularly???? Am I into some 'conspiracy theory' ?😲😉

Annika in RU had an uniqueness; she had empathy and sympathy effortlessly but this Annika in redux does not even realise that the suit she brought for Shivaay to wear is the very same one he wore while shooting Tej! (Its another fact that that suit should have been with the police as artefact from murder site).
I am not against Annika. I love her and I love SSO and most importantly I love Shivika but I am disappointed with the characterisation of Annika more in this redux. About the other side characters,the less I say,the better it will be!


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Posted: 6 years ago
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Originally posted by: sunita_raj

Now I'm totally confused. All of you like Anika or not? 🤓

😆 😆


Don't be! We all love Annika 😆
It's just that the dialogue writers and script writers are making a mess.😆 They need to buck up and put some khirkitodness in our beloved Annika.😆
Edited by Hriju321 - 6 years ago
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Posted: 6 years ago
#27

Originally posted by: sunita_raj

Now I'm totally confused. All of you like Anika or not? 🤓

😆 😆


haha...but why do you think that we don't like Annika ? 😕

yes we do have problem with the way Annika/Shivaay characters have been handled in redux...writers keep flipping them so frequently and leaves us confused and not connected...

but that does not mean we dont like Annika or Shivaay or Shivika...😳
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Posted: 6 years ago
#28
Haha..thanks for clearing my doubt guys 😳

So, can I conclude as below?

Anika from season 1 is apple of everyone's eye

Anika season 2...we do like this character (not as much as khidkitod Anika) but pissed of with the repeated dialogue on pati patni. But, looking at the dhal example given by Gauri and Bhavya in yesterday's episode, I think we are getting back our old Anika as she is trying to be as cheerful as she can to bring back her hubby. Eventhough this may look contradicting from the original characterization they have shown...I will still love it as love Surbhi's acting in cheerful shade 😃
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Posted: 6 years ago
#29
@TM
In your post you clearly mentioned that you saw many posts calling her regressive for being a doormat and for doing pati parameshwar jaap.I am one of them who ranted on Redux Anika in this whole week,i think i explained there why i call her regressive but you didn't reply there,you made a separate post questioning my opinion or others who had same views.

First of all i want answers for these questions

1)Where did i call her regressive just based on one week episodes?

2)You saw only one week episodes,How can you confidently say she is not regressive based on just one week episodes?Redux Anika scenes started 5 months back.How can you know what is Redux Anika if you missed remaining 19 weeks of episodes??

We are not fools to call her regressive based on just 2-3 episodes as you were claiming.

Yes i call her regressive,the reasons i already had mentioned in my first comment in this thread.Pls go through them and again repeating my tape recorder here if you want to hear:

Yes this is 21 st century where women are educated equal to men and earning equal to men.Still there is no equality in marriage.When we being the women start worshipping men as a god,then how can you expect the men to show equality in marriage.

I am not married yet,but i has been watching my parents since my childhood for more than 20 years,so i know marriage kya hota hai,Marriage is not just about wearing sindoor,mangalsutra and giving lectures on them.And husband is not a god to worship,it is highly regressive according to me,Anika has been doing this same regressive stuff from 5 months.Love,care,understanding is more important in any relationship not only in marriage.I am not seeing any love,understanding from Anika side,the writer didn't show any organic development of bond between them.She is worshipping him as he is husband,thats it,she didn't try to understand him or when,how and where did she fallen in love so much with Shivaay??

Now she is forcing him to wear something,to drink something.This is not the way to deal with PTSD patient,if he is not comfortable to share his problems with her,she could have tried to taken him to the counselling.And if she knows the truth about why he shot Tej,she could have tried to discuss this with omru.Her actions look fake when she keep on telling pati patni,how should be the marriage and all if she is not showing it in actions.Acting put on chirpiness wearing beautiful sarees,large bindi,heavy jumkas without trying to do anything substantial thing dealing with the root cause of the problem.It would have been better if she tried to investigate further into the ma tter and trying to get proofs and Show it to omru.As this is what RU Anika could have done.

And other reasons i call her regressive i already mentioned but again i am repeating as you didn't get the point:

She has no identity or individuality other than just being a wife of Shivaay based on what they have shown.I know nothing about what her idealogies,What defines her.And she was a self pitying individual who cried a bucket for making dosas.What's wrong in making dosas?,She had no dignity of labour unlike RU Anika. RU Anika was never self pitying and crying buckets for her fate of being an orphan,having handicapped brother,insulting by SSO based on her NKK or background,She was very confident and never bend before anyone even when SSO brought her on the roads based on 3 day challange,She give it back to him joining as wedding planner in his own house and put a check mate for whatever bakwas he had done for 3 day challenge.

pls Don't try to twist the words according to you,begging is not equal to staying in the house for Dadi.Redux Anika literally begged him holding his legs after the forced marriage to not leave her and to accept the marriage.pls watch those scenes,that is called "Begging"RU Anika never did this.

Regarding RU Anika staying in the house after forced marriage,Indy already well explained about it.My two cents:

She even left him and the house after he taking the bullet for her when pinky asked her to leave his son.She came to house only when Shivaay who was shot by bullet and operated few hours before "BEGGED" her saying "I NEEED YOU".She would have never return to the house if he didn't beg her

And when kamini aunty insulted their relationship,she asked him to either leave her or give the name to their relationship.She DEMANDED the answer there.Shivaay was the one who BEGGED her to stay with him.

Even when she LOVED her SSO,she never wanted patni tag,she never called herself his " patni"Their relationship was actually beyond all these supercial mangalsutra,sindoor things.They were soulmates and that is what writer had to prove in this Redux.But when they hardly actually TALKED with each other ,love,understanding tho door ki baat hai.




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Posted: 6 years ago
#30
'Anika' is the favorite subject of bashing of ppl .on the forum...be it her dialogues , her costumes or the jewels .It seems as if its she who picks those horrid clothes or the heavy jewels for herself..whats even worse..sometimes even the actor isnt spared.
If Anika is supporting her husband who is in a pathetic state of mind..physically and mentally..its her fault. The pati parmeshwar kind dialogues are often given to the female leads and with the current track..all the hatred ..its just the crap they are showing.




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