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Posted: 7 years ago
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Interesting post!

SSO has always been about protecting his family.. Today he was trying so hard to channelize the previous SSO so as to devise a fool proof plan against Svet but you could see the struggle (NM was fab!) in not being able to keep it up with Annika.

As for Saumya, I had never gotten any negative vibes from her for the Oberois during her initial stint - but I can see how, as a writer, you are trying to decode where HS is going with (or had already set up!) a negative/grey Somu. Personally I love RumYa - so am hoping they keep her grey and turn her positive in the end! :)
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Posted: 7 years ago
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Oh my! Such lovely writings and discussions! I am enjoying reading through them all! Thanks!
Sumo - out to take revenge too? Hmmm... pretty interesting thought!
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Posted: 7 years ago
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Interesting post.

I have been watching the show since the start and I noticed some reactions get a bit intense when he goes back to his original nature. Personally, I don't understand why he can't be himself just because he is in love. It's his personality. It's a part of who he is. Shivaay was always grey and Anika coming into his life won't change that.
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The same goes with Anika she will never agree to something she doesn't think is right and being in love Shivaay won't change that. Just because they are in love doesn't mean a complete overhaul of who they are. Right again

I will never like his yelling and her understanding nature irritate me beyond belief. Honesty, so does them not sharing anything, but if they shared everything then there wouldn't be much a plot or drama. Exactly ... lol IB would be a wrap up because then there would be no unnecessary drama

He does things his way and she has a right to disagree with his methods. If she thinks something is wrong then she voices her opinion and lets it be known. I prefer internal conflicts like this any day. We should let the drama play out before we jump to conclusions, but because of the past tracks we automatically think the worst 😆 Yeah no ... I don't believe anything will happen between them except for the usual conflict that goes with the present dynamics that are forcing them to be how they are ... just because you fight, disagree and argue does not mean that you cease to love the person even if he is being bull headed at the moment 😆


As for Saumya, my love for Sumo will never fade. Honestly, I tried to give Rudra's love story and Bhavya a chance all throughout DBO and several months in IB, but it doesn't work. This is not a slight on the actors because they are doing the best they can with what's written from them and it wasn't much. With Saumya and Rumya there is so much history and possibilities there. It works. ... and see I agree because somewhere down the line her past or Family's past will connect with what his Family did as will be in the case of Annika and Gauri so i am trying very hard to understand where the PH is going with this grey Saumya unless, as I said, she infiltrates the Kapoor camp and breaks them from within
She is resourceful, smart and shrewd enough to pull that off

I feel like her being grey would actually give Rumya an amazing love story. Even if there is hatred for the Oberois there is still warmth in the way she looks at him. There is a gentleness in her tone that makes hard to believe she can be truly evil. Maybe this could lead to her letting go of her anger then tipping the scale and helping the good guys win. I always thought there were so many layers to explore with Rumya friendship, betrayal, hatred, and love. She is more than the smart girl and he is more than the jokester. If the writers give them a chance this could be an epic love story that started with revenge,turned into friendship,and finally ends with love. ... again I agree as it will be great see a grey FL ... they gave Priveer a chance so why not Rumya ... I really did not see the need to scrap RumYa when they did but again that is the PH house and how they think ...
Now that they have made her grey I wonder if they have a plan or proper track or are they going to just 'wing it' as usual

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Posted: 7 years ago
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I hope RuMya is the end game, for no other reason than Neha being a much better actress and having a freshness to her and a screen presence that make one want to watch the show.
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Posted: 7 years ago
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Welcome back from your vanvaas 😆 He! he! ty ... seems I have caused a mini stir and storm by returning ... 😆😉

I agree on what you've written about the "beast". Shivaay's SSO side has always been there. He was harsh with Anika because he needed to get his work done. But I don't like that he chose to try to resolve this Svetlana issue on his own, because this essentially looks like a repeat of the Pinky track where Anika started making decisions on her own,. We've seen how utterly that was a failure in resolving that problem and what happened to their relationship as a result of it. So I am looking forward to Anika rising as a lionness and demanding that he treat her with equal footing, rather than expecting her to stand down. I really think that will happen but once they leave the OM as I believe there might be the threat that Svet has hanging over his head that he cannot confide in anybody about what she has asked him to do ... once out of the OM bounds i am hoping he does tell her ... but then again HS loves her drama to drag on 😆

That's an interesting observation about Saumya's first entry into the show. It was so long ago that I don't even remember it anymore, but I definitely thought she harbored some good feelings for the Oberois even since the very beginning😕 Just a thought alright ... humor me ...

How warm would you say your feelings would be to the Family, or the children of the Family, that stole the life of your own sibling,who you loved more than your life itself,as Shivvay does

How good would your thoughts be towards brothers who had the fortune to be alive to tie Rakhi's from each other and their younger sister while yours lay cold and dead somewhere 6 feet beneath the ground because of this same happy Family

How honest would your love and your good wishes be towards those who have caused you so much pain at the loss of your sibling that it hurts to even breathe when you think of that loss while the have each other together and alive every day of their lives

I think you're reading her entry a little too metaphorically. Maybe I am but I only think of it this way ... there were a lot of things that never made sense with Saumya but most importantly for me was her reaction to their marriage especially the part where he tied the mangalsutra and put the sindoor. There she looked like she was truly torn between what she was supposed to do and what she had let happen (where her feelings were concerned for him). She truly looked upset and in a fix, as if her falling in love and marrying him had not been part of the plan.

What if the girl who is supposed to protect her 'suhag' had all out plans to actually destroy him and her marrying him put a spoke in the wheel

As far as Sumo's character is concerned, I would be happy to see her grey, but not full on evil, because it's unrealistic for someone to be so "pure" all the time. I agree but not grey for the petty reason of jealousy for heavens sake ... that would be so not Saumya

And it's time that Sumo does things that she wants, rather than heed the wishes of everyone around her as she did before. As far as Rudra's endgame is concerned. I know who the makers want😆. However even though there's a 0.00001% chance that the person I want gets chosen, I will still continue to hope. Because once I connect to a jodi, it's hard for me to replace it 😆

I hear ya trust me 😕

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Posted: 7 years ago
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The first part about SSO turning into Stone Singh Oberio is no surprise as people don't leave their basic nature when they are in love and when under duress the gut instincts and previous habbits kick in. So that was totally expected. We may see more brutality this week and we will not like it but that's SSO. Yeah but I hope they do not go overboard as HS usually does ... she enjoys this brutal side way too much for my liking even with the forced wedding track
Being back to SSO does not equal to being brutal, emotionally and physically, to the wife he loves. Distancing yourself, being aloof and keeping a icy exterior should do just fine. He is a Harvard graduate not a fisherman for heavens sake - a bit more restraint on the yelling part will not hurt his image of SSO

I will be honest here when I read your post about Soumya, my first reaction was that of surprise but as you have explained yourself in the next few replies, I see it more as a glimpse into HS's mind. Most of us were shocked with PH's decision of turning Soumya into negative character but if we think closely they had planned this long time ago. Like you said Soumya's friendship with Romi & her throwing Tia's phone in water when Rudra & Sahil were trying to snatch it from her. There must be many more instances but just the fact that Om had accepted her as his sister and this girl has warmth and affection oozing out of her, it would be cruel to show her as negative.
A grey character is a shade that is between dark and light. If the shadow of darkness has been cast on her bright soul then one can see how she will be justified in feeling that hatred, loathing and anger towards the ones who forced her to become grey
Maybe she envy's them their brotherhood because she has been snatched of the same. She has had life cruelly steal her brother from her and we all know how affected she is by that. What if that loss was due to the Oberoi's?

I think I read it somewhere that turning her into Vibhashan later in the story may be a good idea rather than showing her totally negative. Just like yellomellow said that it would make a very interesting love story if they take this route. That would be the path I would wish for because she is not a dark character and petty jealousy is not part of her nature from what we saw so the reason to turn grey has to be nullified by absolving the Oberoi's IF she has held them responsible for her loss

I like it that you think out of the box & that's what creativity is all about. I love reading all these different view points on IF and that's what was missing on IF for some time. yeah but seems I have caused a bit of a stir as most MUed what I meant to say. 😆😆
The Saumya going grey is the PH's decision not mine ... I am just trying to work out when she turned grey and what would have caused it 😉
Lets be honest , no one just decides to become grey one fine day. There are events that force you down that path you would normally never have taken

Edited by asya34 - 7 years ago
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Posted: 7 years ago
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Oh my! Such lovely writings and discussions! I am enjoying reading through them all! Thanks!
Sumo - out to take revenge too? Hmmm... pretty interesting thought! If she has suffered a deep loss because of them I can see how she would want them to understand what it feels like to suffer the same loss. She is not dark remember - just grey and that most of us are

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Posted: 7 years ago
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I hope RuMya is the end game, for no other reason than Neha being a much better actress and having a freshness to her and a screen presence that make one want to watch the show. unfortunately we are at the mercy of the PH and I for one am keeping my expectations low as they have been dashed before 😆 been burnt to often 😉
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Posted: 7 years ago
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Pearl I concur with what u said...
Especially about saumya... well when she may rudra in hospital I don't think she even knew who rudra was n hence gave the protective dhaga... but every entry of hers in OM has been the start of some thing inauspicious ... fate... I rooted for rumya n wud still root for them... cannot digest ruvya though mansi is a good actress... saumya's first entry in OM happened n shivaay's chopper crashed ... annika of course was his saviour... 2nd OM entry n then shivaay got kidnapped... there hv been rumours of saumya being 3rd nafratbaaaz since very very long right... I always thot oberois did something wrong to saumya n hence she was there for revenge but being a nafratbaaaz nvr fit in there ... even when saumya was the reason tia's fone fell in water n rudy cudnt see dushyant's pic I thot they were pushing it down our throats to make saumya the negative character...
Today's synopsis says svets n Tia along with their 3rd sister plan against oberois... though I don't want it to be true it is smwhr giving me vibes that saumya is that 3rd sister...

Like u said saumya nvr got good luck inside the house..not that bhavya got good luck...she was bad news from day 1 n used rudra as bait n entered OM knowing well that sultan Sid now target that family...so she was bad omen too ...

Saumya does seem to have some agenda against oberois since early days...

Vanvas promo says an chala shivaay vanvaas aur jalegi oberois ki Lanka... svets is forgetting ... Lanka ravan ki thi n woh jali thi...ram ki ayodhya was in able bharat's hands...
It's deffo time for rikara to step up n take on the lead as oberoi shield at ayodhya till ram n sita finish cleansing the externals
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Posted: 7 years ago
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Pearl I concur with what u said...
Especially about saumya... well when she may rudra in hospital I don't think she even knew who rudra was n hence gave the protective dhaga... but every entry of hers in OM has been the start of some thing inauspicious ... fate... I rooted for rumya n wud still root for them... cannot digest ruvya though mansi is a good actress... saumya's first entry in OM happened n shivaay's chopper crashed ... annika of course was his saviour... 2nd OM entry n then shivaay got kidnapped... there hv been rumours of saumya being 3rd nafratbaaaz since very very long right... I always thot oberois did something wrong to saumya n hence she was there for revenge but being a nafratbaaaz nvr fit in there ... even when saumya was the reason tia's fone fell in water n rudy cudnt see dushyant's pic

I thot they were pushing it down our throats to make saumya the negative character... Me too frankly and her being a Kapoor is going to feel really weird to me tbh

Today's synopsis says svets n Tia along with their 3rd sister plan against oberois... though I don't want it to be true it is smwhr giving me vibes that saumya is that 3rd sister... See that's where I am not able to wrap my head around her being a Kapoor as well ... she having a bone to pick with the Oberoi's I can digest but suddenly an NB I don't get

Like u said saumya nvr got good luck inside the house..not that bhavya got good luck...she was bad news from day 1 n used rudra as bait n entered OM knowing well that sultan Sid now target that family...so she was bad omen too ... Yup ... Bhavya can be the NB too not necessarily just Saumya but again people she grew up with know Bhavya to be an orphan ... so again the theory is confusing

Saumya does seem to have some agenda against oberois since early days...

Vanvas promo says an chala shivaay vanvaas aur jalegi oberois ki Lanka... omg!!! I thought it was just me that watched the promo over and over again trying to work out what the heck was Svet saying!??? 😕😲

svets is forgetting ... Lanka ravan ki thi n woh jali thi... Exactly ... unless she views Shivvay as Ravan in her story but then again Tej did the bad deed not Shivvay so how is Shivvay the Ravan here ... bahut confusion hai ...lol 😆😆

ram ki ayodhya was in able bharat's hands... Yup!! and it seems Bharat a.k.a Om has already taken the reins in his hands and is in on the plan... this is a trap that all 3 brothers have laid ... I am positive Rudy is doing his own investigation and his own bit in this plan

It's deffo time for rikara to step up n take on the lead as oberoi shield at ayodhya till ram n sita finish cleansing the externals Why do I also feel that Shivvay and Tej being at odds is also a set up ... an eye wash so that Shivvay gets the opportunity to work from outside the OM where he cannot be watched 24/7


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