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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: blackorwhite


@bold.. LOL.. Not completely random... I cribbed about exactly this 'randomness'(whitewashing of their actions and no evolution for Anika's character) a few minutes ago in a different thread! 😆 And yup we are expectation too much.. Remember...Don't ask why... just say Shivaay..😆

I'll be very surprised if I even get a token scene where these characters who emotionally manipulated Shivaay even realize their mistake and if all is not forgiven as they sacrificed for him in this current or next track! Maybe they will revisit this arc 3-4 months from now! 😆


Glad I'm not alone then lol.

It really bothers me because its time Anika was developed as a character. I'm not sure what she is even doing here or what she wants? Why is the fake fiancee even necessary? If she wants him back then why isn't she actually doing that? She can get him back without trying to tell truth about Pinky or playing games.

What little they did show there were times Shivaay was shown feeling guilty over his actions and words towards her. He never wanted to talk about the past until he proposed. Avoidance was a sign of his guilt while Jhanvi and Omru were shown against the idea from the start while was shown Anika guilty for two seconds, but then the whole trajectory of the show changed and now its a grand sacrifice. It became more about his reaction to the setup than their calculated actions. Honestly, we really shouldn't expect so much I mean Shivaay was forgiven in a day over the forced marriage 😆Shivaay, Anika, Omru, and Jhanvi will be painted as victims of Pinky's blackmail then its onto the next track.

Clearly there are some trust issues that need to be addressed between the couple and the brothers, but that doesn't seem to be in the cards.



Edited by yellomellow - 8 years ago
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: yellomellow



Glad I'm not alone then lol.

It really bothers me because its time Anika was developed as a character. I'm sure what she even doing here or what she wants? Why is the fake fiancee even necessary? If she wants him back then why isn't she actually doing that? She can get him back without trying the tell truth about Pinky or playing games.

What little they did show there were times Shivaay was shown feeling guilty over his actions and words towards her. He never wanted to talk about the past until he proposed. Avoidance was a sign of his guilt while Jhanvi and Omru were shown against the idea from the start while was shown Anika guilty for two seconds, but then the whole trajectory of the show changed and now its a grand sacrifice. It became more about his reaction to the setup than their calculated actions. Honestly, we really shouldn't expect so much I mean Shivaay was forgiven in a day over the forced marriage 😆Shivaay, Anika, Omru, and Jhanvi will be painted as victims of Pinky's blackmail then its onto the next track.

Clearly there are some trust issues that need to be addressed between the couple and the brothers, but that doesn't seem to be in the cards.



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Posted: 8 years ago
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OMG Anisha I'm waiting for this post of yours.
Really I agree with what you said.
Shivaay is waking up now. can't wait for the episode of today.
Tia telling Shivaay half truth.
pinky's face was satisfying.
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Sorry Anisa for going off-topic! 😊

Originally posted by: yellomellow


Glad I'm not alone then lol.

It really bothers me because its time Anika was developed as a character. I'm sure what she even doing here or what she wants? Why is the fake fiancee even necessary? If she wants him back then why isn't she actually doing that? She can get him back without trying the tell truth about Pinky or playing games.
@bold... I know...It has been bothering me for some time now... I had hoped for this post-separation track to focus on her evolution.. but I was disappointed it became SSO centric again.. *SIGH*...
I wish CVs sat down and spend atleast 1/4 the time they spend on SSO's character on Anika.. (and I adore SSO a lot)...
I can't connect with Anika post the wedding.. I have such a difficult time with her character.. even SSO with his flips is easier to understand at times.. She gives me glimpses of the character that I loved at times and those are some of my fav moments in IB but then Anika's character is very inconsistent and hence, I keep disconnecting... And I loooved her more than SSO's character before the wedding track.. *SIGH* Her mini-realization that she cares for Shivaay was sooo powerful!

What little they did show there were times Shivaay was shown feeling guilty over his actions and words towards her. He never wanted to talk about the past until he proposed. Avoidance was a sign of his guilt while Jhanvi and Omru were shown against the idea from the start
while was shown Anika guilty for two seconds, but then the whole trajectory of the show changed and now its a grand sacrifice.
It became more about his reaction to the setup than their calculated actions. Honestly, we really shouldn't expect so much I mean Shivaay was forgiven in a day over the forced marriage 😆Shivaay, Anika, Omru, and Jhanvi will be painted as victims of Pinky's blackmail then its onto the next track.
LOL...Agree with every single word...
But they did give us biwi declaration... Shivaay saying Sorry.. and atleast SSO acknowledging his mistakes and thinking of/trying to repent or redeem.. Also, as you said the entire Oberoi family was angry @ him for atleast half an episode.. 😆
P.S. another mini-rant.. that post shaadi track was actually the right time to give him many such lectures... but unfortunately, he is getting extra lectures now..(though some of the gyaan makes sense... and has switched on his brain..😆)
As far as Anika and Oberois is concerned... they acknowledge that he is hurt because of what they did...but I see no guilt whatsoever.. and that bothers me..
Also, why expect him to forgive her just because she forgave him..😕 Different people.. different set of expectation(agreed unrealistic at times).. different set of personal rules via which they forget/forgive... There is no 1-method fits all here..
And Anika's 2-second guilt was because she broke him i.e. he lost his taadi.. not for the emotional manipulation used... Anything else except Anika accepting that it is not justifiable to emotionally manipulate someone and Anika acknowledging her insecurities is unacceptable for me, personally...😆 And I don't want a lot.. Just this realization, acceptance and one heart-felt sorry.. 😊😆


Clearly there are some trust issues that need to be addressed between the couple and the brothers, but that doesn't seem to be in the cards.
LOL... *SIGH* I miss the jungle track again!! That track has spoilt me! 😭


Edited by blackorwhite - 8 years ago
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Posted: 8 years ago
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First of all , I need to apologize for my recent tardiness (Tadi-ness?😆) in replying to my threads. Actually work is heating up and i have just enough time during breaks to come to this happy place of mine, post and then jump off to my labwork and writing. I may lose my salarypaying job otherwise !! 😆
Will reply quickly to all the comments here and move on later to latest episode.. I think I'll join up the Shivika scenes from yesterday and today in one post later. (not here)

@maan-chahatgeet

I personally love all the flashbacks. He has a vivid memory, I'm having fun watching all the convos replay in his head. I am looking forward to him remembering all the things he observed about her around the last 3 days, when she was upset, not just the events leading to the disaster.

Remember that scene where she spoke about upholding marriage vows, and how all the rasms in the world can't make a marriage if the vows are not held on to? That was not random. (Just like Om's bazaar side observation of ANnika's pareshaani) it will come back in context soon enough.

Notice how he keeps remembering those 2 hugs of theirs. First was when he was kidnapped , and she refused to believe Farzi and came to rescue him. She saved him, and he was so overwhelmed by her caring. Second was during Holi, that hug was another overwhelming emotion to him, because she took the time to make him feel special. Displays of deep affection.


@LoveToWrite

Lovely to read your comment. Thanks for gracing my thread! You are one of the most consistent and prolific fanfiction writers of the forum. I envy your consistency.. *jealous* I still have people after me for my FF. It's either them or my boss !! 😆*gulp*

EXACTLY. My favourite scene was that exact same one. Where he made a casual statement about how well he knew her, and it drew blood, because it hurt her feelings that he didn't understand that HUGE thing, but speaks of small ones like these.

Her avoiding his eyes, hiding her tears, and him gently asking her to look up. Her quiet refusal was met with insistence. Such a tender painful moment, where he saw something like deep hurt in her eyes, her tears always undid him. SOmetimes I wonder if he'd rather see her cry out her hurt, or deal with her proud tadi.


@DarkPhoenix 93

That date kinda underlined how different they were to me. He was high class glamour and she was a beautiful mess. They both thought they were meeting half way , and were more than happy to let their differences slide. Felt hopeful for their relationship.😉


@ithihaas

It is sad that SHivaay had to be prodded to believe something else may be reason to Annika's behaviour that day, She was hoping that when he promised to be her companion , her anchor, that he wouldn't have shaken and dropped her THAT easily. Though it admit, it was no less of an earthquake what she did that day.

Since her arrival back til now, he is remembering her nature. He has had to convince himself that he was wrong about her. I think that was the plan OmRu planned. Their faces when facing Shivaay's unbending anger at her, it showed that nothing but the whole truth will bring Shivaay around.

I like the way he watched his mother. The overconfident side when gossipping about Tej , went into thoughtful gulping silence when Annika's name is brought up. I wish I could have the whole story at once !! Argh..


@swash2

Annika is way closer than his family to him. She is his companion, his other half, part of him. So he will be more punishing to her, as he would to himself, if she were to make a mistake. There were A UNIT to him, not a dependant family member. Other people needed taking care of, but each other , they knew they could take care of themselves.

As much as it Irritates me , watching Ragini simper and act the damsel in distress with Shivaay, he treats her like a nuisance, an obligation. With Annika, he worries, but he knows she can handle herself. He asks but he doesn't press and force his way in to handle it for her. She is more independent than him even. Kind of respect for her independence.


@yellowmellow


I didn't like the date either. I was not excited over the fall catch. But i did like the appreciative look he gave her , she was beautiful, and she knew he thought so when he looked at her..😉

But then the eating happened and all the internal cribbing and eye rolling..😆 I even got distracted and saw GM thoughts as he watched her suck her fingers clean... needing to have water to dissolve the effect on his throat...☺️

But the point was they thought each other was meeting halfway. And both were more than willing to give it a chance, peace. But neither was going to accept blame. SO it collapsed. But fighting is the only way these two talk and communicate, i just wished more meaningful things were said other than, "You are not willing to understand, that's why this won't work."

Annika should stop evading already. She has lost her courage in winning her love back after Ragini came into the picture. Then why stay in the house at all. That I find weak in the storytelling. Reason for Annika to remain in the house and not do active intervention of getting her marriage back.

I don't think he redeemed himself with the forced marriage either. In fact, i little bit feel good that they are separated, because now that pall of the forced marriage is removed. Now if they marry again/ renew vows it is a fresh beginning. They are still engaged , these two.



@CrzyPulviophile


Thanks ! Will post about latest episode a little later, gotta run to the lab now...😉

Edited by AnnzSageflower7 - 8 years ago
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Waiting for your post after today's episode anisa

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