To Thine Own Self Be True

asya34 thumbnail
12th Anniversary Thumbnail Dazzler Thumbnail + 4
Posted: 8 years ago
#1

Short excerpt from my reply to a PM from maverick . Credit to the things in purple to her ❤️


I'm finally in love with the flow they have taken with respect to Shivika's track.. finally they are in their elements.. talking through their banter and then even opening up about how they felt being let down by the other.. 😊
Yep! a healthy start ... they are upset and hurt by what the other did but hold no grudges against the other ... that is the positive bit

Besties who have felt that they were let down kinda attitude and that is very healthy ... they still have each others back, though of course, at face value they are not accepting it ..lol 😉 typical married couple who are in love

I really did hope that the date conversation would be longer..but they asked the right questions and blurted out their hurt feelings.. "Rishta tum bh todna chahti thi..isiliye tumne woh sab kiya.." Shivaay was so hurt that she ruined everything in one day by doing all those things and saying all those words.. he has been keeping that hurt inside him for so long.. we could see his frustration that it took her just one day to ruin their relationship.. " I can't forget what you did..what you said about my brothers.."

True ... and the dork has not yet realized and clued in that the same brothers are on her side more than his inspite of what she said/did to them ..lol 😆
"haath chod !!! Bhabhi ka haath chood!!" was more a stern warning from Om than a request that he keep his distance from her so that he does not end up hurting her feelings again
Gosh! Om can command such a presence sometimes ... Kunal is doing a fantastic job after his return from the Spin off

And Annika's response to that was so beautiful.. she did not twist the words or anything..she went right to the point.. "And you remembered only that one day..you forgot our entire relationship? Everything that I did before that..? Even I cannot forget how you threw me out of the house"

Stick to the truth ... I did say that ..lol
Nothing healthier for the human soul than that. And in a marriage that is harder to digest but easier to hold on to as time goes by

This is important as Annika has moved to a stage in her relationship where Shivvay is a real man - flesh and blood. He is no longer the untouchable sitting on that elevated mountain top where the God's reside. Her Pati is just that - a Pati not Parmeshwar to figure out things automatically just because they are out there laid before him.
He has weaknesses, is blind in some aspects, has faults and falters. In short - he is human like her not perfect or better.

I remember telling someone this (sorry can't remember who) that after marriage Annika has always treated Shivvay less as an equal as more as a superior. We all made those mistakes I am sure after marriage/in a new relationship assuming our husbands thought just as we did about things and situations. But the men are from Mars and women are from Venus theory still stands today.
That is what Annika was addressing when they were eating ice cream. She as making sure the other two did not make the same mistakes that she had done.
Shivvay became all important. Everything and all things were Shivvay. Her day started with him and ended with him almost to a point of being a kinda devotee or disciple. Annika forgot that SHE existed and that she mattered as well. In her bid to keep him safe, happy and comfortable she did not realize that she was being false to herself.

"To Thine Own Self Be True" are words that came to mind everytime I watched Annika ignore, brush off or over look the things that hurt her feelings, self-esteem and pride. She was not doing that because that was her true nature, she was doing it in a bid to be the perfect wife and DIL. As many said she turned into Gopi Bahu from the Dabaang Annika after she married him. Which of course did not mean we wanted her to yell and scream the OM down but she should have made sure that she spoke up just as she is doing now with both Mother and Son and made a stand as is her nature.
This is the Annika we know now. This is the Annika who is 'True' to herself and hence for me this is stage 2 in the marriage where Shivvay is getting to know the 'Real' Annika, not the compromising and sacrificing one. In a marriage and in love the foundation cannot be compromise because that is not being true to yourself - that is being false.

His statement about not knowing her and hence not knowing what she says is bang on! Who is the real Annika he asks - that one I was married to 3 months ago or this one here. Everyone says Billu is confused but if you look closely you will understand where his confusion stems from. That does not absolve him of his sins of course, far from it.

It was so heart wrenching to listen to those hurt feelings from both sides and then they went back to what they had been doing..playing cupid to their younger ones.. And that is how married couples solve their issues. We do not have the luxury of putting our lives on hold while we sort our issues, we do it while we live our normal lives and go about our everyday jobs... lol They are doing the same... 😉

I'm glad it is all out in the open.. Shivaay definitely knows what she did whatever she did bcoz she wanted to leave..and that is what has hurt him.. he knows she isnt like that.. but she wanted to leave him adn that hurt him a lot.. and well Annika is hurt that he remembers just that one day and judged her based on that alone..forgetting everything they had been through..

I think he is more upset that she changed on him in the span of a few hours. She suddenly became this woman he could not relate to and he is struggling to understand why.

Annika is hurt that he does not remember the sacrificing and compromising girl she had turned into in order to please him and fit his mold, he only remembers the last day and the selfish (but truth speaking) Annika.

For months after their marriage she slowly and steadily became this pleasing, adjusting and mild mannered Annika. The perfect wife and perfect Bahu he coined her I believe.

That was enough to turn this girl into a 2.0 version of Gopi Bahu' because she now could not let her husband down and disappoint him.

Annika's BIG Mistake!! Turning into a perfect bahu/wife is not done by compromising on your dignity and your self respect.

He prepared a mold, an image of her, that he put forward to her as to what he coined as perfect wife and perfect bahu and she felt trapped that she now had to live up to that image. He set new standards as to what Annika was and she complied. She never once thought to set those fact straight and let him know that 'This' what he saw was the real one not the one he was conjuring up in his head.

In time, she forgot who she was and what she was in a bid to live that image and that became the lava that began to bubble under the surface everytime she was insulted, demeaned and made to feel inferior as his wife. Time and again it was thrown in her face that he was the prize catch while she was a no body. Never once did the man refute that as far as I can remember and if he has please feel free to remind me.

And that was Shivvay's Big Mistake'... he let these issues that should have been addressed and nipped in the bud, slide without putting up a strong wall around her and protecting her from it.

I am quite sure that we will see him address these as the days go by and hence I will not waste time on saying how he should have addressed them.

That is what I was trying to explain when I said that she should be honest and tell him the truth. The truth about their marriage and where she felt he failed not Pinky's truth or the illegitimacy truth. That is not her concern and not her truth to tell. I know people were asking me how can she do one without the other two and this is exactly how it is done how the writers are showing it.

Annika leaving Shivvay was brought about by Pinky but Pinky only worked on the weaknesses that were already there in Shivvay and Annika. It may sound a bit complicated but have to look at this without the other 2 equations and just as a husband-wife spat if we want to see just her addressing the marriage equation' truth.

The cracks were already there in this marriage built on compromise and false images.

Annika's issues, insecurities and fear of abandonment (because of which she became this over pleasing and ever adjusting person, fearful that one wrong word/ move and she would lose Shivvay), while Shivvay's weakness was that as much as he loves Annika he buries his head in the sand when it comes to facing the stark truths that she places before him about people with NKK. Also, her NKK does not matter he says, but in reality it does when pitted against the people who were born within his circle and have NKK. She always falls short when compared to them.

His admonishments and rebukes aise khaoo, what's that language, etc etc are proof that he still has issues about certain things she does. But those ARE the things that make Annika who she is and he has to realise that it is what made him fall for Annika in the first place. She is devoid of pretenses and airs that ring false that people from his world hide behind.

She is what he sees nothing more or less. No hidden agendas or motives. She is as clear as crystal and that is what is loveable about her and makes his brothers trust her. Annika is steady as the North Star. She does not flip or change she is predictable in her qualities.

His attitude made her want to change and adapt while killing her true self and that is not healthy in a marriage. She has told him that no matter what you find out about me if you dig into my past I will always remain who I am, "Just Annika'. You get what you see but in reality she WAS in fact turning into this girl with zilch self-esteem and zilch confidence because she felt that he did not like what he saw.

His issues with her lack of NKK and his need of his NKK coupled with his mother's incessant taunts and insults led to her becoming a mere shadow of her former self.

Pinky was just astute enough to make sure that she worked only on those cracks. Anyone else in Pinky's place could have / can still do the very same!!!

That is where ShivIka need to work from now.

Annika has seen the real Shivvay and experienced the flawed one once again and I am hoping she has learned something from that. And it is exactly why she needs to be the real Annika the one we knew from episode one who does not wait for Shivvay to step in if her self-esteem and pride are challenged she is very capable of being her own Hero' and fighting her own battles of he falls mute because it is only in doing that will he be able to back her up. Shivvay cannot fight her battles for her as a bahu and wife he can be her shield and support while she does it. Fighting for it is still very much in her hands.

The look and body language when he walked off after she proclaimed she was owner of OM, blatantly ignoring his mother's complaints and pleas as if they were falling on deaf ears... that is what Shivvay can do but only if Annika fights for what she feels is truly hers.

Shivvay for his part needs to lose his horse blinders' ..lol could not resist the image

I don't think I need to elaborate further ... NKK straight ahead at 12o'clock 🤣 🤣


Edited by asya34 - 8 years ago

Created

Last reply

Replies

30

Views

3.8k

Users

18

Likes

220

Frequent Posters

nim_var thumbnail
11th Anniversary Thumbnail Sparkler Thumbnail + 2
Posted: 8 years ago
#2
res
Me first...heheh...😃
It was the same thing going in my head when I saw the episode today, Pearl. The wealth of hurt and pain both are carrying is huge, atleast the words were out in the open. What pains them the most, that Anika broke it off in a day or the fact that Shivaay recalls only their bitter parting. Shivaay sees the bold, brave girl in front of him yet again, this is what drew him to her to begin with. the same is happening again, he is falling for her very hard. He is being more open in expressing his emotions than before. When he reacted to her feigned indifference to the news of his engagement, the meeting with Summer, the plotting to unite the couples, he does not want to let her out of his sight. She makes him happy and he is out of that zombie zone he was in for the last 3 months.

True, Anika had become a shell of her former self and she was this devi, sitting atop a pedestal, trying hard to be someone she was not. The onus of being an Oberoi bahu and Shivaay's wife without NKK was always in the back of her mind, made her insecure.This was what Pinky saw and exploited it to the hilt, the chink in her armor. I am glad that she is fighting.Her spirited reply to Shivaay that she was cycling or she will eat with a kadai atop her head, what is it to him...was 🤣 🤣

The way the marriage occurred coupled with the constant taunts and putdowns on her lack of NKK really brought her down, she lost herself for a while. I think she had a lot of time to ponder over the events in the last 3 months, away from Shivaay, who consumed her every waking thought. she did tell him that her days no longer revolve around him. That in itself is a big giveaway to Shivaay, if he recalls what she said about Love to Mallika's probing.

If the horse blinders are off, then Shivaay will recall that Anika can't fight him as she has told him this umpteen times. he will use it to make her admit why she left him... I hope he starts thinking aloud or show us his thoughts. 12 '0 clock...the big hand covering, protecting the little one... Shivika?? 😆 The best was Shivika calling Rags Nagini... 🥳 🥳
Edited by nim_var - 8 years ago
CrzyPulviophile thumbnail
13th Anniversary Thumbnail Voyager Thumbnail + 2
Posted: 8 years ago
#3
Loved your post.
Guess perfect post and you cleared my doubts on today's episdoe.
Thanks for posting the analysis.

Daisy
--Nargis-- thumbnail
17th Anniversary Thumbnail Sparkler Thumbnail + 5
Posted: 8 years ago
#4
Pearl...I agree with everything you said...Annika gave up her wajood totally...and she began to live an deist solely for Shivvay...everything about her live revolved around Shivvay and his family! That was a huge mistake...because when Pinky blackmailed her...she couldn't look past Shivvay's devastation at learning the truth of his birth...and therefore was so easily black mailed in to doing what Pinky wanted. Had she retained the autonomy...the aspects of Annika before her life only revolved around Shivvay...she may have questioned her decision a million times and thought more rationally, and not been cajoled into leaving him! Anyhow...I think this is an important lesson for Annika...and one she should remember as she and shivvay reconcile and become a couple again. I think we all (wives) are guilty of it at some point...but we are also reminded that it ok for us wives to have a life outside of our marriage...have friends and work that also demand our time and attention.

As for Shivvay...he has always been emotionally challenged...before marriage and after marriage too! He suffers from it still...he can never express verbally what he is feeling...and not only that he cannot verbalize it...its hard for him to even reconcile what he feels even to himself!! He has always worn BLINDERS and continues to wear them today too! I so want to to slap him sometimes...hoping that will wake him up from the stupor that he seems to be in. I want a cunning, shape, shrewd SSO back, whose only weakness is his love for his wife...and that too...when he wants, he can examine rationally and never be blindsided by his emotions.


P.S... I'm still waiting for my gift...holding out to get it tonight!! 😉😆

Edited by --Nargis-- - 8 years ago
Eternized_Blues thumbnail
18th Anniversary Thumbnail Sparkler Thumbnail + 4
Posted: 8 years ago
#5
UnRes
Finally somebody said that I have been feeling for a very long time. They both failed each other by not trusting their other halves. You can't have a marriage based o just love, because the love stands on the four pillars called Honesty, Trust, Loyalty and Communication. One clap takes two hands.

I will not say that these two did not trust each other. They definitely did. But their expectations of that trust were unrealistic. In Annika's case she earned that trust in a wrong way after being his wife.
She sacrificed her needs for his needs. She put him first before her and nothing wrong in that between a couple what is wrong is losing yourself in process. Yes she voiced out that she is "Sirf Annika" many times, got upset when Kamini called Sahil a thief but when push came to a shove she caved with a minimal sweet talking from our beloved SSO. And as much as we would like to believe our SSO is not a Superhero and thus he can't read her mind and know why she was doing all that. She should have taled to him and I am sure Shivay would have fixed this because in my POV if it did not matter to him that Om was illegitimate he would have most likely overcome this as well...it would have taken time but it would happened. Because she should know that by haven her on his side there was nothing he could not overcome and he had proved that to her time and Again. By being false to herself she was also being dishonest to their relationship. An independent girl like her would have broken sooner or later.

Shivay on the other hand did not give her the loyalty a wife deserved and I am not talking about the extra-marital affair or anything like that. She was his wife, she should have been equally important as his brothers and mother but she came second to them always. For example during Mehndi/Pinky incident he thanked her for apologizing to Pinky when he knew that she was not at fault in person, behind the closed doors of their rooms was wrong. He should have nipped Pinky's efforts in bud at that time then the situation might not have not escalated as much. Shivay is also being very dishonest with himself by ignoring that fact that Annika had not gained anything from this separation. No money, No Status. His brothers are on her side and they would never abandoned if they thought Annika meant what she said but because he is the great SSO everything has to be about his family, his love, his feelings. All him .

But I am glad the lines of conversation are finally open with these two. Looking forward to those scenes.

And may be my secret wish would come true and they will finally find out that Annika is a wealthy princess kidnapped in Childhood and Oberois are just another rich business family and their NKK is not good enough for her royal lineage. 😉



Blues
Edited by Eternized_Blues - 8 years ago
Blairchuck thumbnail
7th Anniversary Thumbnail Navigator Thumbnail
Posted: 8 years ago
#6
You wrote everything so beautifully that there's nothing left to add!
I too feel a relationship especially marriage can't work unless you don't have the privilege to become your true self, and in this marriage Annika was becoming a sacrificing lamb and Shivaay was happy because he thought that he had shaped Annika into what he really want and need , he was treating her like a robot 'Yahan se jao Annika' beach may mat bolo Annika , mera bhai , tmhara bhai, you're my family but when it comes to his family members NO she can't speak between their matters, He loves her for what she is but he still needs to understand it that what really attracts him to Annika,She was insecure because of his baat baat par tokna , what she pointed out today during their dinner, she wasn't being herself now this time she will enter in this relationship being Dabang Annika who is real not someone who always have to think before doing anything that if her Husband Or MIL will like this , and I think thats what they are going to address now , I'm happy they're keeping their relationship real , we'll now see equality and real DABANG Annika not that SP bahu who cries baat baat pe.

P.S : Did you notice after coming back in OM Annika is becoming more bold and confident
Edited by Blairchuck - 8 years ago
maverick04 thumbnail
12th Anniversary Thumbnail Navigator Thumbnail
Posted: 8 years ago
#7

Originally posted by: asya34


Short excerpt from my reply to a PM from maverick . Credit to the things in purple to her ❤️
Haha.. thanks pearl.. loved your responses and your take on Shivika's relationship!!

I really did hope that the date conversation would be longer..but they asked the right questions and blurted out their hurt feelings.. "Rishta tum bh todna chahti thi..isiliye tumne woh sab kiya.." Shivaay was so hurt that she ruined everything in one day by doing all those things and saying all those words.. he has been keeping that hurt inside him for so long.. we could see his frustration that it took her just one day to ruin their relationship.. " I can't forget what you did..what you said about my brothers.."

True ... and the dork has not yet realized and clued in that the same brothers are on her side more than his inspite of what she said/did to them ..lol 😆
"haath chod !!! Bhabhi ka haath chood!!" was more a stern warning from Om than a request that he keep his distance from her so that he does not end up hurting her feelings again
Gosh! Om can command such a presence sometimes ... Kunal is doing a fantastic job after his return from the Spin off
ROFL.. I so agree with this point.. Shivaay is being too dumb by not seeing what is right in front of him.. she is worried about his brothers.. playing cupid to the couples.. supporting his family.. we saw how she assured Dadi that Shivaay sab theek kar denge.. it's all in front of him and he plays dumb.. and OmRu are just awesome when it comes to their bhabhi!! 😆

And Annika's response to that was so beautiful.. she did not twist the words or anything..she went right to the point.. "And you remembered only that one day..you forgot our entire relationship? Everything that I did before that..? Even I cannot forget how you threw me out of the house"

Stick to the truth ... I did say that ..lol
Nothing healthier for the human soul than that. And in a marriage that is harder to digest but easier to hold on to as time goes by Exactly.. open communication and saying the truth is what makes your relationship stronger.. even though they did communicate well much better than usual TV couples I'd say.. but they still couldn't communicate everything to each other.. Annika could never explain or make Shivaay understand her POV or her fears.. which is why she lived in constant fear of losing him..telling the truth today was the stepping stone..


This is important as Annika has moved to a stage in her relationship where Shivvay is a real man - flesh and blood. He is no longer the untouchable sitting on that elevated mountain top where the God's reside. Her Pati is just that - a Pati not Parmeshwar to figure out things automatically just because they are out there laid before him.
He has weaknesses, is blind in some aspects, has faults and falters. In short - he is human like her not perfect or better. I loved this point of yours.. I always said their relationship wasn't entirely healthy as there wasn't a balance.. she always felt he is above her league.. Shivaay always had the upper hand or felt superior to her bcoz of his NKK.. the fact that he says he accepts her without NKK shows that it is an acceptance which means he feels that is inferior to him but he accepts it.. and as she always feared his belief system she felt that when it came to Shivaay he would always feel she is inferior to him.. bcoz of her lack of NKK.. they never stood on equal ground ever since they got married..


I remember telling someone this (sorry can't remember who) that after marriage Annika has always treated Shivvay less as an equal as more as a superior. We all made those mistakes I am sure after marriage/in a new relationship assuming our husbands thought just as we did about things and situations. But the men are from Mars and women are from Venus theory still stands today.
That is what Annika was addressing when they were eating ice cream. She as making sure the other two did not make the same mistakes that she had done.
Shivvay became all important. Everything and all things were Shivvay. Her day started with him and ended with him almost to a point of being a kinda devotee or disciple. Annika forgot that SHE existed and that she mattered as well. In her bid to keep him safe, happy and comfortable she did not realize that she was being false to herself.
No truer words can be said.. she herself admitted to him that he has become that one person above all for her.. his happiness and comfort meant everything to her.. She already was selfless by nature but by giving this type of importance to him she entirely lost her individuality.. and all of us weren't happy with that either.. the fact that he could shout at her in front of everyone and she would just resolve to tears or just easily be insulted by his mother or by him in a fit of rage..made her inferior in the relationship and makde Shivaay take her for granted..

"To Thine Own Self Be True" are words that came to mind everytime I watched Annika ignore, brush off or over look the things that hurt her feelings, self-esteem and pride. She was not doing that because that was her true nature, she was doing it in a bid to be the perfect wife and DIL. As many said she turned into Gopi Bahu from the Dabaang Annika after she married him. Which of course did not mean we wanted her to yell and scream the OM down but she should have made sure that she spoke up just as she is doing now with both Mother and Son and made a stand as is her nature.
This is the Annika we know now. This is the Annika who is 'True' to herself and hence for me this is stage 2 in the marriage where Shivvay is getting to know the 'Real' Annika, not the compromising and sacrificing one. In a marriage and in love the foundation cannot be compromise because that is not being true to yourself - that is being false. Totally agree.. and this is what is a huge change for Shivaay.. he had become the ultimate person in her life and he knew that..he knew the level of reverence she held for him.. and now when she is behaving as an equal.. calling out for her rights.. pointing out his flaws he's not able to digest that.. she had become the perfect wife and bahu he wanted her to be.. the one who will keep his family united and do anything for him and his family.. no matter how they treated her in return.. but the one who left him was the one who spoke the truth which he couldn't take.. and now the one who returned is still the same girl who speaks the truth and calls a spade as it is.. doesn't hide or mince her words to please others.. She is our dabang Annika who is proud to be "Just Annika" and is okay to live alone too.. but not without her pride and self respect..

His statement about not knowing her and hence not knowing what she says is bang on! Who is the real Annika he asks - that one I was married to 3 months ago or this one here. Everyone says Billu is confused but if you look closely you will understand where his confusion stems from. That does not absolve him of his sins of course, far from it.

It was so heart wrenching to listen to those hurt feelings from both sides and then they went back to what they had been doing..playing cupid to their younger ones.. And that is how married couples solve their issues. We do not have the luxury of putting our lives on hold while we sort our issues, we do it while we live our normal lives and go about our everyday jobs... lol They are doing the same... 😉 Lol I agree.. I recently had a similar situation at home.. we have to keep our issues aside and still lead our normal lives no matter how much we want to hate our spouses in that moment!! 😆 Such things make Shivika's relationship feel more close to real relationships.. 😆

Edited by maverick04 - 8 years ago
maverick04 thumbnail
12th Anniversary Thumbnail Navigator Thumbnail
Posted: 8 years ago
#8

Originally posted by: asya34


Continuing from above as it was getting too long!! 😆

I'm glad it is all out in the open.. Shivaay definitely knows what she did whatever she did bcoz she wanted to leave..and that is what has hurt him.. he knows she isnt like that.. but she wanted to leave him adn that hurt him a lot.. and well Annika is hurt that he remembers just that one day and judged her based on that alone..forgetting everything they had been through..

I think he is more upset that she changed on him in the span of a few hours. She suddenly became this woman he could not relate to and he is struggling to understand why. I guess you could put it that way.. but I also feel he is hurt that she wanted to break the relationship.. that is how he sees it.. as he can't understand the reason behind her sudden change.. the only sensible thing he can relate to based on that one day was that she did all that becoz she wanted to leave.. she wanted to break their relationship which is why she targeted his family.. Shivaay is being dumb of' course! 😆

Annika is hurt that he does not remember the sacrificing and compromising girl she had turned into in order to please him and fit his mold, he only remembers the last day and the selfish (but truth speaking) Annika.

For months after their marriage she slowly and steadily became this pleasing, adjusting and mild mannered Annika. The perfect wife and perfect Bahu he coined her I believe.

That was enough to turn this girl into a 2.0 version of Gopi Bahu' because she now could not let her husband down and disappoint him.

Annika's BIG Mistake!! Turning into a perfect bahu/wife is not done by compromising on your dignity and your self respect. Agreed 100% .. it was her biggest mistake.. giving all the power to him and his family..for even once believing that she didnt deserve to be a part of his family.. she became so sacrificial that she was okay when her character was being questioned during Daksh's return track.. she was going to let him off the hook becoz it was her against his family.. that was the worst thing that could happen and she still would have forgiven him.. she entirely lost herself in trying to become this perfect biwi / bahu for this family..

He prepared a mold, an image of her, that he put forward to her as to what he coined as perfect wife and perfect bahu and she felt trapped that she now had to live up to that image. He set new standards as to what Annika was and she complied. She never once thought to set those fact straight and let him know that 'This' what he saw was the real one not the one he was conjuring up in his head.

In time, she forgot who she was and what she was in a bid to live that image and that became the lava that began to bubble under the surface everytime she was insulted, demeaned and made to feel inferior as his wife. Time and again it was thrown in her face that he was the prize catch while she was a no body. Never once did the man refute that as far as I can remember and if he has please feel free to remind me. Yup exactly.. I remember posting this in one of your earlier posts regarding the separation.. He entirely took her for granted.. Both of them felt that Shivaay was the person who had to make the decision about their marriage.. whether he would accept her or not.. he was SSO and she was just Annika who was lucky enough to be in that position.. Neither thought what if the decision would be taken by Annika? It was never a question of whether she wants to be in this marriage or not.. And finally when he did ask her the question expecting an obvious yes.. she turned the tables..though for different reasons.. Only time she showed some decision making power was when the truth of her being an orphan came out and she left the house.. but even then she was most gullible.. Shivaay would never have thought that she would want to leave.. which is what has shocked him so much.. she deliberately did all that to leave him..

And that was Shivvay's Big Mistake'... he let these issues that should have been addressed and nipped in the bud, slide without putting up a strong wall around her and protecting her from it.

I am quite sure that we will see him address these as the days go by and hence I will not waste time on saying how he should have addressed them.

That is what I was trying to explain when I said that she should be honest and tell him the truth. The truth about their marriage and where she felt he failed not Pinky's truth or the illegitimacy truth. That is not her concern and not her truth to tell. I know people were asking me how can she do one without the other two and this is exactly how it is done how the writers are showing it.

Annika leaving Shivvay was brought about by Pinky but Pinky only worked on the weaknesses that were already there in Shivvay and Annika. It may sound a bit complicated but have to look at this without the other 2 equations and just as a husband-wife spat if we want to see just her addressing the marriage equation' truth.

The cracks were already there in this marriage built on compromise and false images.

Annika's issues, insecurities and fear of abandonment (because of which she became this over pleasing and ever adjusting person, fearful that one wrong word/ move and she would lose Shivvay), while Shivvay's weakness was that as much as he loves Annika he buries his head in the sand when it comes to facing the stark truths that she places before him about people with NKK. Also, her NKK does not matter he says, but in reality it does when pitted against the people who were born within his circle and have NKK. She always falls short when compared to them.

His admonishments and rebukes aise khaoo, what's that language, etc etc are proof that he still has issues about certain things she does. But those ARE the things that make Annika who she is and he has to realise that it is what made him fall for Annika in the first place. She is devoid of pretenses and airs that ring false that people from his world hide behind.

She is what he sees nothing more or less. No hidden agendas or motives. She is as clear as crystal and that is what is loveable about her and makes his brothers trust her. Annika is steady as the North Star. She does not flip or change she is predictable in her qualities.

His attitude made her want to change and adapt while killing her true self and that is not healthy in a marriage. She has told him that no matter what you find out about me if you dig into my past I will always remain who I am, "Just Annika'. You get what you see but in reality she WAS in fact turning into this girl with zilch self-esteem and zilch confidence because she felt that he did not like what he saw.

His issues with her lack of NKK and his need of his NKK coupled with his mother's incessant taunts and insults led to her becoming a mere shadow of her former self.

Pinky was just astute enough to make sure that she worked only on those cracks. Anyone else in Pinky's place could have / can still do the very same!!!

That is where ShivIka need to work from now. Yup.. they have to meet a common point where she doesn't lose herself ever again and he realizes that he loves the real Annika.. He has to accept her the way she is and realize that this is the Annika he has always been proud of.. who not only stands upto the outsiders / enemies for the sake of her family..but when necessary would stand upto her husband or her in laws too..the one who stands up for what is right and what is wrong without fearing the consequences.. the one who is ready to face every situation head on.. who believes that being true to oneself is the only way you will survive this world..the protector and the fighter Annika..😊

Annika has seen the real Shivvay and experienced the flawed one once again and I am hoping she has learned something from that. And it is exactly why she needs to be the real Annika the one we knew from episode one who does not wait for Shivvay to step in if her self-esteem and pride are challenged she is very capable of being her own Hero' and fighting her own battles of he falls mute because it is only in doing that will he be able to back her up. Shivvay cannot fight her battles for her as a bahu and wife he can be her shield and support while she does it. Fighting for it is still very much in her hands.

The look and body language when he walked off after she proclaimed she was owner of OM, blatantly ignoring his mother's complaints and pleas as if they were falling on deaf ears... that is what Shivvay can do but only if Annika fights for what she feels is truly hers.

Shivvay for his part needs to lose his horse blinders' ..lol could not resist the image

I don't think I need to elaborate further ... NKK straight ahead at 12o'clock 🤣 🤣

Awesome take on the situation..!! Totally in line with you on this.. I just hope once they are over the hurt.. the writers now show Shivaay wooing Annika for a change to come back to him.. he needs to understand her worth.. realize his mistakes in the marriage too.. and give her equal importance.. both made mistakes and both have to work towards rebuilding their relationship.. a marriage will not be healthy if there is no equality amongst them.. a couple should complement each other in their traits.. if one is better in something the other would be better in something else.. and takkar ki ishqbaazi ke liye dono ko equality dikhani padegi.. 😉😆

Edited by maverick04 - 8 years ago
EnasZ thumbnail
8th Anniversary Thumbnail Rocker Thumbnail Engager Level 1 Thumbnail
Posted: 8 years ago
#9
i have to say ...that the date conversation made me both happy and upset
happy cause they're finally taking and letting the pain out...they 2 asked the right quetions and hit on the nerve of each other's fault

while shivaay's lack of trust in her was his big gigantic fault ..her fault was to break the relation
& that's why i was upset when she asked him surprisingly that "i wanted to break this relation"
the fact remains that yes...she did...i am sure she didn't do all that she did expecting him to hug it out did she??
this answer of hers has made my blood boil...even her blame THAT HE BROKE THIS RELATION
was not true
even the fact that she didn't forget how he has thrown her out...the fact also remains that her entire plan was to get that right? to be thrown out? so y are u blaming him for being manipuleated by u into doing what u want?

i'm sorry i couldn't get the hypocricy in that

trust me this isn't annika vs shivaay ... as i said...her line about how her forgot everything she did and only rememberd her last day was so true and bang on👏👏
but the fact that she's trying to free herself from guilt in front of him got on my nerves
she admitted her mistake to pinky,to herself...but when the person that she should be trying to melt things with him...she's not showing regret...i don't know y😕😕😕

and the fact that shivaay didn't give an answer means he too knows that he should have trusted her..and not throw her out ...

they both need to admit their mistake TO EACH OTHER...so i didn't like her blaming him for her mistake in this

the part where u say that her NKK still mattered to him and he gave her less importance then people with NKK ...the thing is it was never put to test AFTER HE SAID IT DIDN'T MATTER SO ICAN'T JUDGE

but if u meant that shivaay didn't trust Annika that day because (deep down ) of her NKK then i disagree...not just shivaay...but no man/woman will stand and hear their respective partner hurt their own family and stand siletn

even if instead of annika it was anoyone with NKK (say Tia or ragini) then i think we would have gotten the same results but with less cruelty...as (at least for me) his cruelty that day came from the fact that he was hurt)

however,if u meant something else then please explain


p.s: i enjoyed reading ur post and now i c y harneet said that this separation was necessary for them
Annika needs to believe she's an equal...shivaay needs to make her feel that (although he never told her otherwise but he sure felt it many times yet remained quiet)
however,this doesn't change the dumpness of the reason for separation😡😡

pps: i have to repeat this line all the time😆...i am NOT team shivaay vs team annika
i am just not ok with him being blamed and pushed into feeling guilty when he was manipulated into this
the guy didn't throw her out because someone said something...it was because those who mattered the most SAID IT...SHE AND HIS BROTHERS

ppps:& yes...he's a dork...he's sitting here being hurt because she has hurt his brothers...he got so blind by his own pain that he can't see that his brothers are actually helping her do whatever she wants to do😡😡...if shivaay really didn't try to look for the truth in these 3 months then he proved annika 100% true (that he only looked at that day) and he proved to be completely dumb (cause even after lapse he can't see that for those whom the relation broke for...they're the same that are taking annika's side) *i am face palming like hell at this point*


ETA: i know this post is about annika's evolvement and after reading so many comments i think i might have converted the subject...i don't have anything regarding what u said...about her loosing herself or picking up the pieces in those 3 months
strong annika is shivaay's real annika and i am glad she's back...i guess the fact that she's giving it back to shivaay instead of trying to fix the mess is the reason for my ranting

sorry if the comment was misplaced...i had to vent it out somewhere and ur post was at first about the date😆😆😆
Edited by EnasZ - 8 years ago
AparnaChinnu thumbnail
9th Anniversary Thumbnail Rocker Thumbnail Networker 3 Thumbnail
Posted: 8 years ago
#10
Awesome analysis pearl...
you know wat...i learnt an important lesson from ishqbaaz is never try to hold on a relationship at the cost of your dignity and self respect... we all loved the charecter of Annika because she was a self made women who never allowed anyone to play with her dignity... she always gives it back at the same moment but after the marriage we saw a drastic change in that
we can't blame Annika completely her here because she never experienced love in her life... the first person who taken care of her was shivaay... she was too emotionally attached to him... he became the light of her life... her strength but after sometime he started to become her weakness... she started to do everything to keep him happy... she knows family is everything to him... so she also started to do everything for the family even though if it causes her insult... most importantly she had given shivaay a view that she will not leave him... she always fears that and shivaay knows it too... she began to become a perfect Bahu... a perfect sister in law... perfect wife... shivaay was used to it... and he thought that that is the real Annika and we all lost the real Annika some where... when Annika decided to leave she thought that a mothers love is above everything... but she forgot that there are certain things only a wife can do for her husband...
she thought that pinky will fill her place in Shivaay's life and Annika had seen the outcome... shivaay always thought that he knows everything about Annika but the seperation track made us realize that he doesn't even know anything about her... so many of us will say that is shivaay an antharyami to know the things that going on Annika's mind... but if omru was able to figure it out then why can't shivaay... wat Annika asked was so True he only thought about the single day before throwing her out... she was insulted so many times in that house but when she insulted them one time he never thought a sec to throw her out... he loved her... there is no doubt in that but he never understood the real Annika... he needs a perfect Bahu...perfect wife...
once she flipped from that all the promises flew away in a minute... he always said that he trusted her but if a situation comes he always forgets to trust her blindly..
he always says he understands her but when she needs him to understand her... he never did... there is so much to explore in their relationship... I seriously believe that this journey will be entirely of Shivaay...
he should first try to understand Annika first and he should found out the truth by himself... otherwise he will not learn the important lessons in his life regarding trusting Annika... and in Annika's case wat she had to learn is never compromise her self respect and try to keep the faith in the relationships and never let it go...
more over never allows some one to enter your relationships...

Related Topics

Top

Stay Connected with IndiaForums!

Be the first to know about the latest news, updates, and exclusive content.

Add to Home Screen!

Install this web app on your iPhone for the best experience. It's easy, just tap and then "Add to Home Screen".