I still want real apology - Page 2

Originally posted by: napstermonster

Let me Devils Advocate here for a bit, YelloMellow, because yours is a safe space! 😆 What more can he do, when he still believes in the essentials about Anika, and only regrets that he yelled at her and lost faith in her temporarily? How can he apologize for his beliefs, until he rejects those beliefs? This is my take on this--

He is sorry for the fact she was hurt, and he was angry at her when she didn't deserve her anger. He says doesn't he, that he hates himself when he is mad at her? But he still believes the true essence of what he said, though, right? Bloodline, background, lineage--- no amount of sorries from him will change that she doesn't have those elements, be she ever so kind and good and sweet and cute. Om is right--as a businessman, he made a calculating error, since she was valuable (trusted employee, kind household help, supportive friend, good influence on all) and he lost that employee through a series of events, for which he is now properly sorry. But that employee is still an employee, right?

I don't get all these "Shivaay is in love!!" theories--he finds her beautiful because he has working vision, he finds her attractive because--male-- and he finds her to be a sweetheart and an absolutely hilarious fascinating and nice person because that is what she is. His pre conceived, extra garma garam prejudices against her for all that gobar and water throwing are gone, he respects her, is moved by her goodness, and finds her attractive-- but that's really all the character growth that's happened with Shivaay here. Mentally he is in control, and emotionally he has standards he clings to.

The "So-Sorry" was because he shouldn't have SAID those things to her in the WAY he did (screaming, physically threatening, horribly cruel) but he cannot apologize for BELIEVING these things-- "the lakeer between you and us(me) is there and will always be there" is still there--because in his viewpoint that is true about her, right? Because her niceness or their odd connection or even her sacrifice of her "izzat" (GOD🤢) does not change the fundamentals about her that he has a problem with. She cannot be his equal - -in HIS eyes-- until his fundamental belief changes. And he lets himself be beaten to a pulp for having hurt her--but not for his beliefs about their essential difference in background and bloodlines. That difference is as true now as that night, when she quit/got fired.

I go back to that point when he is at the poolside, and Omkara and Rudra are angry with him because he had come here and not followed Anika after Tia's outburst--and he held on to the reason he had for not going--Prinku and Dev and her role in that interference. For him that has been the whole crux of this--he has a problem with Anika's betrayal of THEM and not her background, which is already a given. He thought she was BETTER than her background, and was furious to think she was exactly as he feared she might be--sly, devious, low, a backstabber. But when Prinku bursts that bubble, he rushes off. It wasn't Anika's sacrifice, It was his realization that he had his FAITH in her and her actions towards his family BACK that made him head out like a boss.

For me, the sorry was enough, because I took it to be "sorry that I yelled at you and didn't have faith in you because you kind of told me you had done the one thing I wanted you not to do, and LIED to me about undermining me in my own house" not "I'm sorry for the essential content of what I said, which is a fundamental thing I cannot be wrong about, it is my belief and you are not a blueblood." He at one point, about Dev said "kash things were different" in the context of lineage, then says reality is what it is. He is a realist.

He is not an Ishqbaaz, he is not (yet) a madman in love. She honestly needs to be gone for more than 10 hours for him to become one, to start thinking of just her, just his need for her, and aur sab kuch bhaar mein. I'm incoherent today.. but did I make sense?