19.6.16- Some thoughts about the episode& precap

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Posted: 9 years ago
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So the Malika track finally comes to an end.

I am glad to see that for once they portrayed an ex as a genial, affectionate person who will be a lovely memory always- otherwise, in Indian Television, an ex-girlfriend is synonymous with a vamp.

And Malika seems to be the only one who can be this frank with Shivaay and call him out on his shit- If this doesn't justify the cameo, I don't see what does.


As an outsider who was just exposed to the ShivIka dynamic, she could see what only OmRu could...that there is something undefined and beautiful that is sprouting between Shivaay and Anika. Her letter to Anika which encouraged her to hope for love was just beautiful, and so was her advice to Shivaay to find someone who would make him happy...rather than looking at external trappings of wealth and power.


In any case, I do think the cameo was stretched and the plot revolving around Malika problematic and far from being perfect, but Gul did make some meaningful points about female empowerment in the interim, and also made Malika a device to make Shivaay introspect about his attitude towards Anika. If anything I applaud Gul for daring to show these things in a largely regressive TV space. Good job, Gul!


Coming to the precap...I also anticipated why Shivaay should want a housewife as his life partner- because if you look closely at the Oberoi family, all the women are cast into traditional roles; even Prinku does not get the privileges that her brothers get. It has always been implied that the Oberois are traditionalists.


And the very fact that Shivaay let go of someone like Malika and chose a flowerpot like Tia shows you that what kind of a partner he wants- someone who can be a social equal accompanying him to gatherings and bearing his children and furthering his bloodline- as sad as it sounds. As he says, all relationships, including marriage, is a deal for him🥱


If you are wondering about why Shivaay despite being a Cambridge-return should have an attitude like this- well, education does not automatically equate to enlightenment, does it? I guess he supports women empowerment as an abstract idea, but for himself prefers a partner who will merely be a wife and a mother. His takkar ka pyaar Anika will give him an education in this matter that he will never forget:)


Om, on the contrary is a sensitive man who has been privy to the sufferings of his mom. No wonder that he feels deeply about why women should have identities of their own. His mom does not have the freedom to make decisions because she is confined to being an Oberoi bahu...who is stuck in a dysfunctional marriage and has to deal with her husband's adultery.


Essentially what this track did was firmly establish the foreshadowings with respect to the ShivIka ship as well as the ideological differences between the ObBros and their attitude towards women. I am happy that the main plot can now move ahead and we can see what lies in store for our Ishqbaaazes😊

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Posted: 9 years ago
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Tia has no profession kya? I have not seen initial epsiodes. So no idea. He even does aura cleansing with her because she want him to, which i guess he doesn't believe too much from what i have seen. 😕 In Mallika's case, mallika did say that he was supportive of her career.😕 And that was not the reason for their break-up na?
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: LTLFan

Tia has no profession kya? I have not seen initial epsiodes. So no idea. He even does aura cleansing with her because she want him to, which i guess he doesn't believe too much from what i have seen. 😕 In Mallika's case, mallika did say that he was supportive of her career.😕 And that was not the reason for their break-up na?


I don't think Tia has a career...she seems to be the Indian version of the dumb blonde so far 😆 I think Shivaay supports women working and all that...as an abstract idea, but when it comes to his own partner he is a traditionalist. We can only guess a little from the precap...I'm still waiting to see what his exact ideas are...but I think he just wants a wife and a mother of his children...

He did support Malikas career but he wasn't affected enough by her...so he didn't care i guess. But when it comes to choosing a wife, he is much more particular.
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: YeHoKyaRahaHai


I don't think Tia has a career...she seems to be the Indian version of the dumb blonde so far 😆 I think Shivaay supports women working and all that...as an abstract idea, but when it comes to his own partner he is a traditionalist. We can only guess a little from the precap...I'm still waiting to see what his exact ideas are...but I think he just wants a wife and a mother of his children...

He did support Malikas career but he wasn't affected enough by her...so he didn't care i guess. But when it comes to choosing a wife, he is much more particular.


Second that!
This exactly connects to what Gul had said. She said SHIVAAY SIGH OBERIO is not supposed to be correct, he is all flawed and he will learn he is wrong. And this will be done by THE GREAT ANIKA. 😆
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Absolutely well written.

The problem with Shivaay is that he is just like us. He is a little bit of a hypocrite. He might be supportive of what Mallika said, but when it comes to him, he wants something similar to most men out there.

Yet I do partly agree on what he said to Om. It is a legit point. Many women want a man who has already faced the struggle and is now stable & well built. Very few find the courage to stand with a man during the worst period of his life. Very few want to build a man up.


Although I might be taking his point of view in a hopelessly positive light. Also I am not demeaning any gender. I am a girl, a feminist too. And that's why although I partly agree with Shivaay, I do believe a equal relationship will be where both people are building each other, where no one is sacrificing their dreams for other person.

This is on the basis of what I saw in the precap. I might find Shivaay going all sorts of Bullshit tomorrow.
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Originally posted by: pritzz


Second that!
This exactly connects to what Gul had said. She said SHIVAAY SIGH OBERIO is not supposed to be correct, he is all flawed and he will learn he is wrong. And this will be done by THE GREAT ANIKA. 😆


Exactly. Anika will remove all his misconceptions and make him a better man.😳
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: poemssyndrome

Absolutely well written.

The problem with Shivaay is that he is just like us. He is a little bit of a hypocrite. He might be supportive of what Mallika said, but when it comes to him, he wants something similar to most men out there.

Yet I do partly agree on what he said to Om. It is a legit point. Many women want a man who has already faced the struggle and is now stable & well built. Very few find the courage to stand with a man during the worst period of his life. Very few want to build a man up.


Although I might be taking his point of view in a hopelessly positive light. Also I am not demeaning any gender. I am a girl, a feminist too. And that's why although I partly agree with Shivaay, I do believe a equal relationship will be where both people are building each other, where no one is sacrificing their dreams for other person.

This is on the basis of what I saw in the precap. I might find Shivaay going all sorts of Bullshit tomorrow.


Yes...hypocrisy is the word. Which of us isn't a hypocrite 😳 And i do think that women's equality is a topic about which a lot of people say things that they don't practice in real life...lol

I do agree with you about what you said about women wanting men who are established...but in this day and age men too want working women to supplement the family income I guess.

At the end of the day it all boils down to one thing. The short but powerful dialogue of Prinku...that it should be a choice and not a matter of compulsion.

Lovely comment...thanks for the response 😊
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Posted: 9 years ago
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I cnt hear properly bt in ibn7 seg i heard a dilg on ths issue 'sh-simple it shud b a deal,om-evrythng z nt deal,we r humans,we hv feelings& feelings deals pe depend nehi karte'...
So 4 shivay its deal tht a hubby manage outside works & wife shud b house wife.
&4 om it shud b both the partners choice..
&as GUL said shivay z flawed.only xpensive cloths dnt mk him classy.its his journey 2lv &knw tht he z wrng.
So anika ll mk better version of sso
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: LoveSonu2408

I cnt hear properly bt in ibn7 seg i heard a dilg on ths issue 'sh-simple it shud b a deal,om-evrythng z nt deal,we r humans,we hv feelings& feelings deals pe depend nehi karte'...
So 4 shivay its deal tht a hubby manage outside works & wife shud b house wife.
&4 om it shud b both the partners choice..
&as GUL said shivay z flawed.only xpensive cloths dnt mk him classy.its his journey 2lv &knw tht he z wrng.
So anika ll mk better version of sso


Wow. Thanks for sharing with us. 😃 Now it makes sense as to what Shivaay thinks...and how our Anika will change her bagad billa...he doesn't know what is coming his way😉
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Nice post. I agree with whatever you said. Shivaay is a hypocrite. 😆
He needs some dhulai from Annika. 😆

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