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Posted: 9 years ago
#31

Originally posted by: Crazy4Mayur

I won't say selfish, but they looked silly

Ek taraf they claim to be 3 parts of same story, they eat together sleep together laugh & cry together but wen it came to trusting Shivay the other 2, especially Omkara treated him like an outsider

I still can't believe he insulted Shivay by saying this is a family matter and since family is not important to Shivay he should keep out of this

What has Om exactly done to keep the family together...he only keeps insulting his dad all the time

And just as he comes to know Shivay saved him, he asked the whole family to apologize to him...like really? It was Om who started the unnecessary argument which led to all the elders if the family fight too...people who were coming close from last few days have got a new misunderstanding seeded in their hearts, all thanks to Om and his never ending lectures

Om has proven that he would always trust the wrong people and this very much gives hint to the future of the family too...who would keep the family together, who would blame, who would sacrifice n all


Rudra, Om and Shivaay. In that order.
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Posted: 9 years ago
#32

Originally posted by: Crazy4Mayur

I won't say selfish, but they looked silly

Ek taraf they claim to be 3 parts of same story, they eat together sleep together laugh & cry together but wen it came to trusting Shivay the other 2, especially Omkara treated him like an outsider

I still can't believe he insulted Shivay by saying this is a family matter and since family is not important to Shivay he should keep out of this

What has Om exactly done to keep the family together...he only keeps insulting his dad all the time

And just as he comes to know Shivay saved him, he asked the whole family to apologize to him...like really? It was Om who started the unnecessary argument which led to all the elders if the family fight too...people who were coming close from last few days have got a new misunderstanding seeded in their hearts, all thanks to Om and his never ending lectures

Om has proven that he would always trust the wrong people and this very much gives hint to the future of the family too...who would keep the family together, who would blame, who would sacrifice n all


Yes.. What I found wierd was not one introspection happened between Om and Rudra as to what could be wrong! They just assumed it was a deal! So many security threats have been happening yet no one was concerned enough to worry whether it could be something serious!
From Om's dialogs clearly Shivaay has never put work or anything else above family ever before then why so much rudeness this first time?
I liked prinku's attitude far more.. She was hurt by what he did.. He apologized and she forgave him.. No need for excuses and no taunts like Om ... If she could be so mature what happened to Om with his bonding with Shivaay!
They had a reason to be upset but not rude.. That goes against the relationship of trust..
And yes.. Like Prinku if Om and Rudra had also apologised for their rudeness before knowing why Shivaay had to leave, it would make more sense!

From whatever we have seen Shivaay is the one who always takes decisions to protect the family.. Most clear evidence was the chip incident.. So it's not unusual that he doesn't tell them everything...

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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: prettypri


Yes.. What I found wierd was not one introspection happened between Om and Rudra as to what could be wrong! They just assumed it was a deal! So many security threats have been happening yet no one was concerned enough to worry whether it could be something serious!
From Om's dialogs clearly Shivaay has never put work or anything else above family ever before then why so much rudeness this first time?
I liked prinku's attitude far more.. She was hurt by what he did.. He apologized and she forgave him.. No need for excuses and no taunts like Om ... If she could be so mature what happened to Om with his bonding with Shivaay!
They had a reason to be upset but not rude.. That goes against the relationship of trust..
And yes.. Like Prinku if Om and Rudra had also apologised for their rudeness before knowing why Shivaay had to leave, it would make more sense!

From whatever we have seen Shivaay is the one who always takes decisions to protect the family.. Most clear evidence was the chip incident.. So it's not unusual that he doesn't tell them everything...


Agreed with everything you both said. Some people have pointed out that it was Shivaay's fault too that he hid from them why he was going out and it's his 'flaw'. I don't feel the same. Shivaay had a reason not to tell them, cause he felt that he could fix the matter, come back and avoid creating tension in the family (because he felt they won't find out). In the past too, he has hidden things from his family like the chip issue, cause he didn't want to hurt them or cause any unnecessary emotional strain. He's always thought about the goodwill of his family. And Om knows the fact that Shivaay has hidden such things from the family before too. He also knows that Shivaay places his family above all. Knowing these two things, why not just give a benefit of doubt rather than hurling bizarre accusations at him?

So if it must be someone's flaw, it surely ain't Shivaay's. In the future too, Om's rigidity is gonna create all the problems between the bros.
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: prettypri


Yes.. What I found wierd was not one introspection happened between Om and Rudra as to what could be wrong! They just assumed it was a deal! So many security threats have been happening yet no one was concerned enough to worry whether it could be something serious!
From Om's dialogs clearly Shivaay has never put work or anything else above family ever before then why so much rudeness this first time?
I liked prinku's attitude far more.. She was hurt by what he did.. He apologized and she forgave him.. No need for excuses and no taunts like Om ... If she could be so mature what happened to Om with his bonding with Shivaay!
They had a reason to be upset but not rude.. That goes against the relationship of trust..
And yes.. Like Prinku if Om and Rudra had also apologised for their rudeness before knowing why Shivaay had to leave, it would make more sense!

From whatever we have seen Shivaay is the one who always takes decisions to protect the family.. Most clear evidence was the chip incident.. So it's not unusual that he doesn't tell them everything...



Exactly...Shivay has not hidden something from them for the first time...he doesn't share things that might cause tension amongst the family...like the chip thing and the press conference too which he was going alone but last moment Om-Rudra came to know about it and they accompanied


And I agree,...being upset and complaining is fine like Rudra did...but accusing and insulting is not done...if you doubt someone so easily you claim to love so much, then there was no trust in the first place

I just hated to see the family fight for a small misunderstanding...such cute family function got spoiled and Shivay looked really sweet wen inspite of all the blames he was smiling and protecting his brothers from Pinky's anger
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Agreed!

My Omkara infatuation is dwindling day by day. No longer does he appear some sort of God amongst men.
I've generally been quite anti-Shivaay, but he is growing on me. He seems much more realistic and tangible than Omkara.
Rudra has always been a little immature, so his reaction was expected, but I never thought that wise, mature Omkara would be so quick to jump to conclusions.
In fact, with last night's episode in mind, Omkara has become my least favourite Oberoi brother.
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Posted: 9 years ago
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well i think every1 was rit in der own way!Right 4m Shiv to OmRu to Pinky to Janvi To Shakti to Tej😆
herez y:
1.We knw hw Shiv is all protective abt his family,esply Om(given dat he was a drug addict nd so Shiv doesn't want to lose Om in anyway).Now i find wt Shiv dd was justified.Being da grt wall of SSO,he solved da prob alone as he ddnt want da function to spoil so he ddnt tell any1.
2.Om was already going through a lot.first Rid doubted on him 4 having an affair.He was hurt dat she thinks he takes relationships lightly and dey broke up.Den Shiv too dd da sameth(somewt)by leaving dem alone on da function evenwhen he asked if work is more impt dan family nd he replied Yes(he dd dis so dat hez family wont stop him).Den came Buaz truth!SO basically,Om wasnt in his rit mind to think abt all dos ths calmly.
3.Rudy always believes wt he sees.He saw Shiv leaving it 4 work so he believed it.Hell,he even believed dat Anika was behind da chip leak when he saw everyth was pointing towards her.Had it not 4 Om,he would have held Anika at fault.
4.Pinky too was justified in her ways.I mean no mom can take it when her only son,who btw is da eldest son(grandson) of da family is being questioned/insulted by da same bros he holds so dearly to him.
5.Janvi was rit at telling Pinky to stay away 4m da kids argument.Bt i felt she shold have told Om to behave a bit wid Shiv since Shiv is elder to him.
6.Tej and Shakti too were justified in taking der respective wives side.

So in a way,all were rit.Yes i agree Om should have trusted Shiv bt den again like i sid he was already going through a lot to think straight.

Even dow,m a die hard Shiv luver i think all were justified in der own ways.Not angry on any1 definitely not at my Shiv😳😊
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: Pyrrhic.

Agreed!

My Omkara infatuation is dwindling day by day. No longer does he appear some sort of God amongst men.
I've generally been quite anti-Shivaay, but he is growing on me. He seems much more realistic and tangible than Omkara.
Rudra has always been a little immature, so his reaction was expected, but I never thought that wise, mature Omkara would be so quick to jump to conclusions.
In fact, with last night's episode in mind, Omkara has become my least favourite Oberoi brother.


I felt the same! OM was the voice of reason who calmed Shivaay!
He was so sure even in the case of Anika that Shivaay must have his reasons for blaming her..although h didn't think she was bad!

And when he took the overdose and came to his senses the first question he asked was where Shivaay was...and he immediately worried that he would do something rash! He knows him so well..then yesterday's outburst was uncharacteristic!

They needed a reason for a fight...as that's supposedly what happens in every festival according to Rudra! But Om could have been calmer and less accusing...went against what has been portrayed of him and his bond with Shivaay!

I hope he is more consistent in future as he is a very interesting character...in fact the USP of this show for me is the relationship the brothers share..
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: Crazy4Mayur




Exactly...Shivay has not hidden something from them for the first time...he doesn't share things that might cause tension amongst the family...like the chip thing and the press conference too which he was going alone but last moment Om-Rudra came to know about it and they accompanied


And I agree,...being upset and complaining is fine like Rudra did...but accusing and insulting is not done...if you doubt someone so easily you claim to love so much, then there was no trust in the first place

I just hated to see the family fight for a small misunderstanding...such cute family function got spoiled and Shivay looked really sweet wen inspite of all the blames he was smiling and protecting his brothers from Pinky's anger



I totally agree...somehow have a feeling that OM's inflexibility and his sense of right will what create rift between brothers
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Posted: 9 years ago
#39
I'd say they are all selfish and possessive in their own way to some extent although, I don't see how OmRu came across as selfish in this specific situation 🤓 Shivaay thinks he is the one who, alone and by himself, has to solve every occuring problem- his intention isn't bad, of course, but this is also a form of selfishness. Om thinks his set of ideals is perfect and his loved ones shouldn't breach those- also a form of selfishness. Rudra... I have still to figure out, lol. Attention demanding? Too possessive over his bros? Hm.

Shivaay's main flaw is that he thinks he has to shoulder everything on his own. Without the phone call, would he have ever told them what the actual deal was especially if they hadn't questioned him like this? He needs to understand that this kind of protectiveness will cause his brothers more harm than good in the long run because he is making them dependent on himself. What will they do when Shivaay is not around, at one point in time? Rudra's even worse off than Om in this case 'cause with Om Shivaay can, at the very least, open up at times. Rudra's a child to him and will remain such for a long time - that wake-up call will be a brutal one. His intentions aren't wrong, he is used to doing things like this and I don't exactly fault him for this - but sometimes, we want to do the best for our loved ones and end up being the cause of their pain. It happens and I fear this is where this tendency of Shivaay might lead to, in the future.

Omkara's weakness is that he let's his emotions cloud his judgement which is one huge problem. It has been shown many a times throughout the show- Shivaay goes off when he is angry and Om when he is under emotional stress. Given the situation, it's not too surprising that he snapped. Everyone does that when they are angry and frustrated - Shivaay himself does it often enough and unintentionally hurts others (and feels bad about it later on). Same happened here. Besides, the phone call came just around the time the fight was being ended - no time for anyone to reflect, to cool down before the revelation happened. Am pretty sure that once Om had cooled down, he would have rationalized the situation as he usually does when he is calm and concluded that he had been wrong. - Surprise, surprise! Om isn't perfect 🥱 Thank God for that 😆

As for Rudra, he wasn't exactly rude, imo, though he perceived it as such, I guess. Judging from his expressions throughout the whole fight, that boy seems to suffer from some serious anxiety issues- and snapped. Also, they were upset on Prinku's part - Shivaay didn't exactly leave in a gentle way, did he (since he, himself, was under stress he snapped, too)? It's easily said to do this and that, they shouldn't have done this and that but matter of fact remains that emotionally charged situations make us behave stupidly. Besides, Shivaay allows them to question him like this, he gives his brothers this liberty which no one else has- it's a form of trust. We are hurt and disappointed by the people we love the most and we bear hurtful words from the people we love the most.

And Jhanvi didn't take sides, per se. She clearly said to Pinky that Shivaay will handle it (she trusts him more than her own kids), and she wasn't wrong: the issue was between the brothers, they would have sorted it out on their own. Pinky wasn't wrong, either, since she is a mother and she loves Shivaay (most likely only him, lol), obviously she wouldn't like him being questioned in such a manner. On another note, I'd be wondering more why Jhanvi only mentioned Om when she spoke up against Pinky 🤣

So, no, according to me they didn't look selfish - just human. None of them were exactly right here and neither wrong, Shivaay just looks better because his actions ended well. But will that always be the case? 🤔 But I am glad that they are showing all three leads as flawed without making them look negative or anything - we can clearly see where the brothers have to work on themselves and I hope that CVs will explore these points.

Peace.
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Posted: 9 years ago
#40
i didnt think they were being selfish , its their right after all Shivay is their bro and not their Dad
any1 in their place wld hv done the something

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