WHAT IS KABEER PROBLEM....!?

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Posted: 7 years ago
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ISLAM IS WAY OF LIFE...

Quranic Guidance and Hadith are the Basic Sources of Guidance.

Kabir being a Sunnah and taking References From the Life of Prophet Mohammad is good. But Nothing is Over Quran or Hadith.

The Quran is more concerned with moral guidance than legislation, and is considered the "sourcebook of Islamic principles and values". Muslim jurists consult the hadith ("reports"), or the written record of Prophet Muhammad's life, to both supplement the Quran and assist with its interpretation. The science of Quranic commentary and exegesis is known as tafsir.The set of rules governing proper elocution of recitation is called tajwid.

Muslims usually view "the Quran" as the original scripture as revealed in Arabic and that any translations are necessarily deficient, which are regarded only as commentaries on the Quran.

Kabeer Being a Sunnah is not a Problem Its advised that They can take references from the Life of Prophets when they need clarifications on the Quranic verses... When Prophet Mohammad Has to Preach and Abide by the Guidance of Quran... Who is Kabeer... To Over Look Quranic Guidance and Hadith over Sunnah...

Its the Quranic Guidance over Sunnah not otherwise...

More Over... I would Support Kabeer in one thing Over Zara... Dargha...

Healthy Conversations... are good... I want Kabeer to Win this Argument Over Zara... Visiting Dargha is ok but... They have to Pray to God...Not to any one...

Quran Clearly against Shirk... No equivalent to God...

Within Islam, shirk is an unforgivable crime if it remains unpardoned before death: Allah may forgive any sin if one dies in that state except for committing shirk.

Its most fundamental concept is a rigorous monotheism, called tawd (Arabic: ). God is described in chapter 112 of the Quran as: "Say, He is God, the One and Only; God, the Eternal, Absolute; He begetteth not, nor is He begotten; And there is none like unto Him"


Al-Sharh al-Mumti', 5/243

It should be noted that if the husband breaks this condition, his wife does not become divorced as a result of that, rather she has the right to annul the marriage, and she may either annul it or give up the condition and accept what her husband has done, and remain as his wife.

Now Bazi Zara Ki hath meh Hey...

As per Their Nikka Agreement Kabir cannot Over Rule the Contract Religiously and Legally. Now Zara have more control on their Marriage than Kabir.







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Posted: 7 years ago
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I agree with all your points. Except Dargh.
People have this mis conception that muslims.go to the dargh etc to and ask the person buried there to fillfill their wishes. It isnt so.

Most sunni muslims who visit thr dargh are there to pray their respects and for isal e thawab of the plperson buried there as that person was a pious man/woman.

Nit trying to turn this into an argument/debate but it if one side is given so shiuld the other


ALL muslims kniw that worshiping and asking something from anyone except ALLAH is shirk. No musljm would ever do that intentionally.

My family visits darghs and no we do not worship there.

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Posted: 7 years ago
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Originally posted by: Mariyah0

I agree with all your points. Except Dargh.

People have this mis conception that muslims.go to the dargh etc to and ask the person buried there to fillfill their wishes. It isnt so.

Most sunni muslims who visit thr dargh are there to pray their respects and for isal e thawab of the plperson buried there as that person was a pious man/woman.

Nit trying to turn this into an argument/debate but it if one side is given so shiuld the other


ALL muslims kniw that worshiping and asking something from anyone except ALLAH is shirk. No musljm would ever do that intentionally.

My family visits darghs and no we do not worship there.



I UNDER STAND YOUR POINT MARIYAH...

Even I am trying to say the Same... Visiting Dargha to Pay respect is Fine...

But this Show is not Just for Muslim's... Lots of my Non Muslim Friend ask questions on this...

It would be good if they have a Clarification on this as well...

Also Its again a choice to Go to Dargha or not... More over Some people don't know the Difference between Mosque and Dargha...


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Posted: 7 years ago
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U want me to tell u what is Kabir's problem he's an egoistic jackass that the cvs made into a hypocrite who's character have fallen and cannot be redeem 😡
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Posted: 7 years ago
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Originally posted by: Shivanie05

U want me to tell u what is Kabir's problem he's an egoistic jackass that the cvs made into a hypocrite who's character have fallen and cannot be redeem😡



Gosh! Such a fitting description for Kabeer - an egoistic jackass ... spot on !
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Posted: 7 years ago
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He doesn't have any problem.He is a man in a patriarchal society who sometimes uses religion, sometimes family, sometimes children, sometime does even bother to make an excuse to repress women. There are so many men around us who are like him that stumbling upon a character such as this in a show should not even be a shock. Actually, I find Zara also having her share of issues although the greater burden of their issues lie at Kabeer's door.
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Posted: 7 years ago
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I think now Zara should leave Kabeer. Kabeer will realise his mistakes. He will surely come back to Zara.
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Posted: 7 years ago
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I was recently listening to adnan's interview after the recent shoot and he was saying that Zara has the right to fight for rights just like he has the right to stick by his... but in public they shall remain together or support each other( in the sense of respecting earth other's opinions) because of not then it will bring unwanted public attention and will be a problem to the entire family.. so his point was when Zara stood against him in court he felt betrayed... he thought what ever the problem is publicly shw would never stay against him (just like his Ammi didn't say against him). But she forgot all that. Yes he did go against the Shari board, but then again I don't think whether she would hav said something or not would have made a difference, but she did and it broke Kabeer's heart.

And back to today's episode, the news channel talking about Zara and Kabeer's divorce. He thinks that it's her doing, when in reality it's nilofer's. So he gets angry on Zara for humiliating his family. If she wants to fight she can approach him and do it but doesn't have to insult his whole family publicly.

Im not saying Kabeer is right... but he has his faults just like Zara has hers.. but he gets angry and due to his anger he takes harsh decisions which makes the viewers sympathize with Zara (like he asked his Ammi in today's episode what about me? Why doesn't his feelings matter? Is only Zara important to her?)... I'm just saying. I'm a girl.. and even I wouldn't like it if my personal life becomes public for unwanted reason.
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Posted: 7 years ago
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Originally posted by: annjose1998

I was recently listening to adnan's interview after the recent shoot and he was saying that Zara has the right to fight for rights just like he has the right to stick by his... but in public they shall remain together or support each other( in the sense of respecting earth other's opinions) because of not then it will bring unwanted public attention and will be a problem to the entire family.. so his point was when Zara stood against him in court he felt betrayed... he thought what ever the problem is publicly shw would never stay against him (just like his Ammi didn't say against him). But she forgot all that. Yes he did go against the Shari board, but then again I don't think whether she would hav said something or not would have made a difference, but she did and it broke Kabeer's heart.

And back to today's episode, the news channel talking about Zara and Kabeer's divorce. He thinks that it's her doing, when in reality it's nilofer's. So he gets angry on Zara for humiliating his family. If she wants to fight she can approach him and do it but doesn't have to insult his whole family publicly.

Im not saying Kabeer is right... but he has his faults just like Zara has hers.. but he gets angry and due to his anger he takes harsh decisions which makes the viewers sympathize with Zara (like he asked his Ammi in today's episode what about me? Why doesn't his feelings matter? Is only Zara important to her?)... I'm just saying. I'm a girl.. and even I wouldn't like it if my personal life becomes public for unwanted reason.



Zara was not the one who publicly opposed the sharia board decision, it is only because of Zara that he got the sher kazi position, or else he would have been struggling to get any job with his temper tantrums, if he had followed the ruling of the sharia board and offered the namaz that day, it wouldn't have come to this, if one accepts a public position, then one has to accept the responsibilities of that job and that includes following laws and decisions, even if you oppose them. He should have offered namaaz and then tried to sort it out with the board, he was the one who started the whole problem, not Zara, cause he showed disrespect to the Kazis decsion and in this case Zara was offended as the Kazi also happened to be her father! So not only is he a jackass with a temper he is also a very incompetent leader!
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Posted: 7 years ago
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Originally posted by: annjose1998

I was recently listening to adnan's interview after the recent shoot and he was saying that Zara has the right to fight for rights just like he has the right to stick by his... but in public they shall remain together or support each other( in the sense of respecting earth other's opinions) because of not then it will bring unwanted public attention and will be a problem to the entire family.. so his point was when Zara stood against him in court he felt betrayed... he thought what ever the problem is publicly shw would never stay against him (just like his Ammi didn't say against him). But she forgot all that. Yes he did go against the Shari board, but then again I don't think whether she would hav said something or not would have made a difference, but she did and it broke Kabeer's heart.

And back to today's episode, the news channel talking about Zara and Kabeer's divorce. He thinks that it's her doing, when in reality it's nilofer's. So he gets angry on Zara for humiliating his family. If she wants to fight she can approach him and do it but doesn't have to insult his whole family publicly.

Im not saying Kabeer is right... but he has his faults just like Zara has hers.. but he gets angry and due to his anger he takes harsh decisions which makes the viewers sympathize with Zara (like he asked his Ammi in today's episode what about me? Why doesn't his feelings matter? Is only Zara important to her?)... I'm just saying. I'm a girl.. and even I wouldn't like it if my personal life becomes public for unwanted reason.


Zara does have faults, everyone does, but whether they disagree at home or in public it is Kabeer who must be in control. He does not accept Zara having opinions, this was evident day one upon their meeting. Moreover, after marriage he expects her to abide by his terms and conditions. He could have supported her rights, but he does not believe in them. He stands true to his principles, which are wrong for Zara who is progressive thinking. If he has a wife like Zara's mom; he would be perfect for her, but still regressive in any woman eyes who feels they should have the same rights as men. I understand why his mom was so upset. She probably feels my son married a woman who can open his world, especially since Shabaz suppresses hers. He will not marry better than that. Kabeer is impulsive and erratic especially when angry; he tends not to think things through-narrow minded at best.
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