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Posted: 7 years ago
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Originally posted by: smol-bean

I skipped many epis and finally watched at a strech :


I saw different views , definitely not hurting anyones views or pointing anyone's post in particular ( tbh i dont even remember who wrote what lol ) anyway here's how i see it & going to be very straightforward :
First equating Zabeer relationship with reality.
Sorry I cannot agree with this , i dont believe in fantasy but i have seen innumerable couples out there in real , they arent loveless or doing their farz. If reality is so harsh then I dont think people would have got married in the first place , just for physical needs people can go for prostitutes instead. I get what you mean but I haven't seen the world so I feel like there is a chance there are relationships like this. But I can't imagine one where a husband agrees to sleep with wife for duty/cause she has rights on him, but doesn't think it's his duty to treat her with respect? That's unbelievable for me!

Next , i agree their consummation can be realistic , but there how can kabeer behave like a robot ? They consummated because they were attracted to each other ?where was it ? wasnt it robotic ? Yeah now this I have a problem with too. If they wanted to show him robotic and unfeeling should have stayed CONSISTENT with this. He was very obviously attracted to her in the first few weeks and now it's like the attraction just 'switched off'? And sorry, I don't buy the whole 'he's just busy' drivel people are dishing out. That makes no sense and just cause a man gets busy doesn't mean he forgets how to be nice/respectful. 🥱

Not hurting any religious sentiments , but is a "NO" too hard to say ?You are having marital problems , you dont want to fullfill your wives physical needs at this point dont you have the right o say "NO " for once ? Or is it just valid for women , isnt it sexist ? No idea, but you're not hurting anyone's sentiments. I think it is a valid question and we can't pick and choose what can/cannot be criticized. I just can't get over the fact that Kabeer would put more emphasis on THIS farz than the farz where you also keep your wife genuinely happy. He's doing a shit job on THAT farz!

Okay you cant say No , fine ! So dosent his usools teach him that his farz includes treating his wife well , be it physically or emotionally. Where did his emotions go when he abused ZARA ?
Isnt it a sin to treat your wife like trash , humiliating her , abusing her ? EXACTLY!

Now coming to kabeers behavior towards Ruksar ,by now we all got the answer that why he was ready to marry Ruksar but not Zara.
He wanted that sort of wife for himself ,fine !
Now you are married , you could have said "NO" during the wedding but you didnt , so why you are eyeing on ruksar now ? You missed your chance , you love her you could have married her , why Zara ? You know what I might come back to the show if Kabeer-Rukhsar get married. She has worked hard to get him and he likes her, so why the hell not?! 😆

I really wish either Zara leaves kabeer or Kabeer leaves zara , a separation track is much needed.And i amwith you on this I am not watching this show anymore and especially out of this Zabeer shipping for the same reason. How I wish Z gives K a divorce but we all know the opposite is more likely to happen 🤢 Same, I cannot 'ship' them again every after this, no matter how man dance or dream or lovey dovey sequences they show. I'll never forget this.

( Sorry If i hurt anyone's sentiments but just had to vent out my frustration )




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Posted: 7 years ago
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Originally posted by: AnjuRish

Even i agree... I watching news and suddenly in the ad break i saw the isa morning after scene and i taught i misheard and rewatched during the zee hd 1 channel

I must admit was outraged and disgusted
Even in arranges marriages the marriage may have started off with attraction the husband is not so harsh and heartless ...shes a wife not some random women u slept with


Thank you for saying this and I totally agree! This 'harsh reality harsh reality' excuse I've been hearing to defend Kabeer in ANY way is just grating on my nerves tbh. And if makers did want to show him this way, fine! But they should've showed him like this from beginning! And no matter how many times certain people say he was always like this...NO he wasn't lmao. He was NEVER this disrespectful, idiotic and unfeeling!
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Posted: 7 years ago
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Originally posted by: JazzyM

Thanks for the post...

I haven't watched it today and am not going to watch it... after the farz comssumation scene and the morning after... I have totally lost it.. Can't stomach this anymore.

The worse part is, Zara was hurt when he uttered the words but she didn't even dwell on it...she just went back to being the supportive wife...

This is 180 degree turn in Zara's character too.. The CVs are butchering both Zara and Kabeer.

I thing that makes me wonder is, what would happen if Zara takes assitance from one her male friends for any project or let's say even from Kabeer's friend... Imran. She goes out with Imran ...how would Kabeer feel? Now when she goes out with Imran, there is always Reema..maybe without Reema. After all Rukshar is Kabeer's childhood friend and he goes out with her...So, what is good for the goose should be good for the gander...



Good you didn't watch! It's not worth ever one second of our time tbh. I too have completely lost connection to the show I so loved in the first two weeks or so.


@bold - THIS IS WHAT BOTHERS ME TOO! The old Zara would never have forgotten this! For the sake of whatever shitty track they've planned, they have seriosuly butchered both leads to the point where I cannot root for either of them, especially the ML who I actually WANT the vamp to marry! 😆

Kabeer told Zara to do parda in front of Humdan there's no way he'd sit quietly and watch her going out with a male friend. Fricking disgusting hypocrite 🤢
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Posted: 7 years ago
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Originally posted by: NarbhiForever..

Hello Nandini🤗

Hope you are doing well<3
About show I have left it already and don't have any interest in it so not talking about that:/
Meeting you was a nice experience.⭐️
Hope to see you in a new forum soon:)
& Wishing you all the best for your future adventures!


Hey babe! 🤗 I'm doing alright and you? Hope all's well!


Good that you left it, I have officially give up completely as well. To hell with this kind of content man. It's not about being patient for the leads to get together anymore, it's about showing some consistencies with characters and not taking audience's patience for granted!

Meeting you was lovely too! That is one good thing about joining this show's forum, I got new friends :D I'll be over at the YPNTKH forum!

Thank you and I wish you the best always as well!
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Posted: 7 years ago
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Originally posted by: sajni786

Hey...so ur Nandini (reminds me of Ash in Hum Dil De Chuke Sanam)

HI I am Shilpa...ppl on IF who know me calls me Shilpu.


All I wanna say is..." Come let me hug you tight"🤗


Hi Shilpa :) I used to think your name was Sajni lol sorry!


Haha I get that a lot! 😆 Nothing like Ash's Nandini 😆

Hugs back! 🤗
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Posted: 7 years ago
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Originally posted by: aqua.m7

Awww nandini.

Again were in the same boat..😭

I didn't watch today's episode after I read the update.

I might just wait for their dance at the summer camp then if nothing improves- bye bye😭

P.s I know it won't make much of a difference but just wanna say don' leave 😭 I will miss you and your awesome posts too much😭


If I'm not wrong your name is Mana right, please correct me if I'm wrong...
Bootu MS episode was aired yesterday and summer camp dance is over...You will not understand as to why did they come and dance...And the Kabeer you saw day before yesterday , Kabeer you saw in MS and Kabeer you saw in yesterday's episode there is no continuation ... So I suggest you to forget about MS episode until you want to see zabeer romance...

To be frank seeing the current scenario I'm not able to digest any kind of romance...
I mostly don't want any serial for more than 50 episodes and I saw only 1 serial for 100 episodes as usually tend to lose interest by then, but I somewhere thought this serial might break this trend but unfortunately I feel it is not so... o
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Posted: 7 years ago
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Hey nandini
Hey even i am in ypntkh forum
I just had a baby a year back so 10pm to 11.30pm1is like my me time after j goes to sleep. I watch tv when i prep for the next day.. Like make dosa batter, cut veggies and stuff
Isa is too close to reality... When i worked in a ngo some time back i saw all types of stuff and i would be right ifii say it made the cynical me more so... Atleast i watchwtv since i want to escape reality
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Posted: 7 years ago
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Originally posted by: AnjuRish

Hey nandini

Hey even i am in ypntkh forum
I just had a baby a year back so 10pm to 11.30pm1is like my me time after j goes to sleep. I watch tv when i prep for the next day.. Like make dosa batter, cut veggies and stuff
Isa is too close to reality... When i worked in a ngo some time back i saw all types of stuff and i would be right ifii say it made the cynical me more so... Atleast i watchwtv since i want to escape reality


I volunteer at NGO back home for abused women, I'm just like the administrator for their projects and sometimes I pick calls. I have recorded such situations where the women feel unwanted and unappreciated but need to stick to the marriage due to status quo, family, children, image...the cases were not in my generation group, older group and I could understand where they were coming from.

What I don't get it is, even the current generation is being portrayed like this...even if people are there like this out there, do we really want to put it on TV. Showcasing that the behaviour is ok...unless the CVs want to bring change and show how Kabeer's outlook changes. To do that, they need to butcher Kabeer's character and in the process make Zara feel so unworthly before change occurs.

How many young ones out there would go thru this kind of mental and physical torture before being able to catch the light at the end of the tunnel.. by then, we viewers would have washed our hands off this serial.

I catch up with Desi serial just to make sure I have feel of my roots, but this...???
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Posted: 7 years ago
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Originally posted by: ghissapitta


Good you didn't watch! It's not worth ever one second of our time tbh. I too have completely lost connection to the show I so loved in the first two weeks or so.


@bold - THIS IS WHAT BOTHERS ME TOO! The old Zara would never have forgotten this! For the sake of whatever shitty track they've planned, they have seriosuly butchered both leads to the point where I cannot root for either of them, especially the ML who I actually WANT the vamp to marry! 😆

Kabeer told Zara to do parda in front of Humdan there's no way he'd sit quietly and watch her going out with a male friend. Fricking disgusting hypocrite 🤢


Seriously the part of Zara ranckles me more than Kabeer. If she takes each word he utters and looks into ways to improve or remedy the situation based on what he says, we will see diifferent story line. Idealogy might be different but if she goes in his path but asserts her rights, we will enjoy.
Now she is just a push over...Let him make the mistake with Rukshar and Miraj. He needs to fall flat on his face, then, he will listen to advise..😡

Look at Aeysha...she knows how to work her way with her husband eventhough Shaabaz is totally arrogant...

Sorry people, I'm really losing it.
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Posted: 7 years ago
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Zara to Kabeer talaq talaq talaq. Where the hell is Zara's self respect? Leave Kabeer high and dry to hang himself with his main attraction Ruksaar, maybe only then will he realize he had a good hearted woman with liberal opinions. He is abusive. Zara is losing herself by remaining with him. His mindset, his behavior, his idea of a wife, his controlling attitude is regressive, chauvinistic, and misogynistic at best.
He does not deserve to be a Qazi, a husband, or even a thought. I do not think he even likes Zara or even finds her attractive, I feel the whole Kashmir incident was an act for his father. He does not want to look bad or irresponsible in his father's eyes. I feel he was willing to make it work as friends and the worry set in because of his father, but Ruksaar is the type of woman he is attracted to.

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