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Posted: 9 years ago
#31
Calm Down dear silent reader. It is just a show for our entertainment. Don't take it too seriously. This is the theme of IKRS. Dhani will face lot of difficulties in society because she is a widow and Viplav is the one who will save her from all the troubles. Women are being murdered in some areas(in real life) which we don't even know about their existence. This is one bitter truth of the society we live in.. So we must accept it. There is nothing you will gain by complaining..
If you wanna complain or raise your voice then do it for something useful dear. This is just a tv serial. There are so many things we have to complain about in reality..
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Posted: 9 years ago
#32

Originally posted by: Nipunika92

Calm Down dear silent reader. It is just a show for our entertainment. Don't take it too seriously. This is the theme of IKRS. Dhani will face lot of difficulties in society because she is a widow and Viplav is the one who will save her from all the troubles. Women are being murdered in some areas(in real life) which we don't even know about their existence. This is one bitter truth of the society we live in.. So we must accept it. There is nothing you will gain by complaining..

If you wanna complain or raise your voice then do it for something useful dear. This is just a tv serial. There are so many things we have to complain about in reality..


Well I respect your opinion ma'am, but I have completely opposite views and I have already made my points. Anyways its only an online form that we need to fill, I always try to raise my opinion against any such things not only serials 😊

My only point was, the makers have no intention to show a journey of a widow who fights against all odds and emerge as victorious, instead they will only show torture and humiliation. why do women need a male partner to help her and save her, why can't we show them as self confident and self reliant who fights her battle alone. I started watching it thinking it will offer something interesting and they will show a fighter within Dhani who will fight...but to my despair nothing is happening.

Before you all ask me to stop watching it, I m going to do this from today 😊

Thanks for wonderful debate 👏, I guess Indian TV serials are not for men like me 😉
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Posted: 9 years ago
#33

Originally posted by: ks118


Well I respect your opinion ma'am, but I have completely opposite views and I have already made my points. Anyways its only an online form that we need to fill, I always try to raise my opinion against any such things not only serials 😊

My only point was, the makers have no intention to show a journey of a widow who fights against all odds and emerge as victorious, instead they will only show torture and humiliation. why do women need a male partner to help her and save her, why can't we show them as self confident and self reliant who fights her battle alone. I started watching it thinking it will offer something interesting and they will show a fighter within Dhani who will fight...but to my despair nothing is happening.

Before you all ask me to stop watching it, I m going to do this from today 😊

Thanks for wonderful debate 👏, I guess Indian TV serials are not for men like me 😉


I've to agree with you on what you said about Dhani's character. But the rest...(not all of us have the same views). I just said what I felt. And I will never ask you to stop watching the show. It is up to you.
But one more thing sir. If you really raised your voice against such issues, then with lot of respect "HATS OFF TO YOU SIR" 👍🏼.
Don't take anything personally...😆
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: napster

do you have a problem with it being a Hindu priest or just in general?

just bcoz some people can get 'offended', things cannot be banned. so called sentiments were hurt during PK too and we saw some ignorant people protest against it. future generation/kids and those living in a cave should know what really happens in many areas of the country. do not pretend that most women in India do not live in pathetic situations. or are we like Smriti Irani saying that all women in India are free to do, wear, work as per their wish.

this 'global image' excuse was given while trying to ban the documentary on the Delhi rape case. we all know the protest and ban brought more ridicule to India. Be ashamed that such things happen in the society, don't be scared or ashamed to show it and work towards stopping it. Hopefully, such petitions won't stop the episode from airing.
This show is working towards shaming people who disrespect women in the name of Hindu religion and tradition. The hero of the show keeps shaming the wrongdoers. Your protest would have been valid if they showed otherwise.

today we see jobless morons disrupting Dilwale and BM in theatres bcoz they got hurt. next we'll see only propaganda shows airing on tv bcoz that brings solace to that section.



Very well said 👏 I thought along the same lines too. I m of Indian descent but born and raised outside. Yet, daily we read about the atrocities committed in the name of religion, cast and creed. What is more appalling is the outcry from the public in protest of what's being shown. Lets face change doesn't happen overnight. It requires quite a lot of effort from all and it starts with one. Had Gandhi not protested against Sati, we will still be seeing it as part of our daily life. This is horrendous. This is like punishing the messenger and letting the criminal go scott free. What irks me is after doing all these heinous crimes, these criminals hide behind cover. they dont want to show their damn faces on tv? But politicians dont think for a second to find fault with the victim. Its about time we show the true face of such people and expose them to get justice.
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: LadyLaLa



Very well said 👏 I thought along the same lines too. I m of Indian descent but born and raised outside. Yet, daily we read about the atrocities committed in the name of religion, cast and creed. What is more appalling is the outcry from the public in protest of what's being shown. Lets face change doesn't happen overnight. It requires quite a lot of effort from all and it starts with one. Had Gandhi not protested against Sati, we will still be seeing it as part of our daily life. This is horrendous. This is like punishing the messenger and letting the criminal go scott free. What irks me is after doing all these heinous crimes, these criminals hide behind cover. they dont want to show their damn faces on tv? But politicians dont think for a second to find fault with the victim. Its about time we show the true face of such people and expose them to get justice.

you understood my point so well. thanks for replying 😊
and what a good example of that sati pratha. we have a great line of thinkers, rationalists who have done their best to make people understand. they too have faced hurdles. this show uses entertainment while making us think and debate. they haven't justified the wrongdoings. Viplav, the hero, is against it.
and i saw a post just now where a district magistrate in India ate food made by a widow to show the villagers that it isn't a bad omen. things are changing but at a very slow rate.
hiding the pimple won't make it go away. we have to apply the ointment.

every day we see politicians tell women about that lakshman rekha. do not dress like that, do not go out. rapists saying the same. many people around us say the same. they should be the one ashamed and prosecuted and not the writers of IKRS who are doing a great job.

but if the protest is just bcoz it is a show on hindus and hurts the so called image then 😕
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Posted: 9 years ago
#36

Originally posted by: ks118


Ma'am pls read my comment in second page. The intention of makers is not to aware people about the conditions of widows in India but to emotionally exploit people to get TRPs. I can say that even after 100 episodes, you will the same atrocities probably in a different format.

If you really want to see the reality, i bet you can't and no one will be able to show that. In reality, widows in certain regions of India are not only humiliated but sexually exploited too. Had it been any close to reality, let the makers show the men raping dhani or making her parade naked with her face black. will you be able to see this??? We all know the reality, those who claim they don't, either they live in dream land or don't want to admit it.

But the problem is, TV show makers are no saints or social reformers, their only intention is to make money thru exploiting the conditions of widows and by spreading negativity. After 1-2 years, they will get her married to Viplav and then she will again subject to evils of her in laws.

There are hundred other mediums if you really wish to see "REALITY", a fictional TV program, which has access to every house hold, which is being watched by kids and elders, which is being telecasted in villages and metros, will definitely increase PROBLEMS for widows, as not all have enough wisdom to understand the hidden message. Anyways there is no attempt to educate people how to resolve issues with Widows. Daily they humiliate the poor girl, and her only savior is her HERO/LOVER...how many Widows in India have such HEROES in their lives??? They fight their battle alone.

Boss everyone is showing problems, India is full of such issues, they have a medium to spread awareness, why they can't show journey of win of good over evil????? Or else they admit that intention is to entertain not educate and They chose a Widow just to attract emotional female audience.

and I will complained against all such nonsensical stuff whenever i will come across 😊

Kapil



oh dear. This is the first time I am hearing me addressed as Ma'am😊

My opinion is if greater good is being done by garnering a few TRPs points so be it. Even those shows which openly claim to be talk shows that expose injustice done to society, do it for TRP. Even the CEO of Red Cross and RSPCA earn $350k a year. they don't do it for free. They say they have to organise a lot of publicity and charity functions to gather the funds. So this is how it is done even in the outside world. What matters is at the end of the day many benefit from it. That is the crux of shows like these. If they even change one person's thinking, they have done it.

You speak about 100s of medium, please let me know what medium you are referring to. Do we have a problem with the medium used or the issue impacting society? I think medium should be immaterial as long as it is publicizing the atrocities, making awareness of such heinous crimes we are good.
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: napster

you understood my point so well. thanks for replying 😊
and what a good example of that sati pratha. we have a great line of thinkers, rationalists who have done their best to make people understand. they too have faced hurdles. this show uses entertainment while making us think and debate. they haven't justified the wrongdoings. Viplav, the hero, is against it.
and i saw a post just now where a district magistrate in India ate food made by a widow to show the villagers that it isn't a bad omen. things are changing but at a very slow rate.
hiding the pimple won't make it go away. we have to apply the ointment.

every day we see politicians tell women about that lakshman rekha. do not dress like that, do not go out. rapists saying the same. many people around us say the same. they should be the one ashamed and prosecuted and not the writers of IKRS who are doing a great job.

but if the protest is just bcoz it is a show on hindus and hurts the so called image then 😕




Before talking about Lakshman Rekha the politician should do some introspective to see if he is Lakshman. If he is, then he can draw the rekha. Lakshman did not go drawing Lakshman Rekha to other he only did it to his Bhabhi. So let them not preach to the world but keep their motor mouth under control.
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: LadyLaLa




Before talking about Lakshman Rekha the politician should do some introspective to see if he is Lakshman. If he is, then he can draw the rekha. Lakshman did not go drawing Lakshman Rekha to other he only did it to his Bhabhi. So let them not preach to the world but keep their motor mouth under control.

just like how men expect women to be Sita but wouldn't dare be Ram themselves. blaming it on women is so much easy. and then also there are versions of Ramayan tht don't even mention a Lakshman Rekha 😆 if only we had more men like viplav around us
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: napster

just like how men expect women to be Sita but wouldn't dare be Ram themselves. blaming it on women is so much easy. and then also there are versions of Ramayan tht don't even mention a Lakshman Rekha 😆 if only we had more men like viplav around us



I have no issues with you expressing your views the way I expressed mine. But it is highly derogatory to attack someone personally by addressing him as Bhakt???? What kind of language is this??? Whole world knows this is used for Modi supporters, how an you bring politics in this???Should I use similar term for you???I didn't make any personal comment on anyone, why you then???? Also you "claimed" not to respond back, what happened now???? Means you are free to decide my political inclinations, who gave this right to you????
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: ks118



I have no issues with you expressing your views the way I expressed mine. But it is highly derogatory to attack someone personally by addressing him as Bhakt???? What kind of language is this??? Whole world knows this is used for Modi supporters, how an you bring politics in this???Should I use similar term for you???I didn't make any personal comment on anyone, why you then???? Also you "claimed" not to respond back, what happened now???? Means you are free to decide my political inclinations, who gave this right to you????



Dear Topic Maker

I chose to ignore your comment, but since you have quoted me in your response, I would like to make my stand. I dont recollect using the word Bakht and neither did I recollect reading it in Napster's post to which I responded. I may have missed it so pardon me if I am intruding by making this response.

The sanskrit word "Bakht" means piety. It refers to the love a devotee has for God. No one, I repeat no one has ownership on the word. If some party politicos are using it, that does not mean that the word from now on should not be used and if used, it does not mean that we are assuming your affiliation to a certain political party or using it in a derogatory term. This is the first I am hearing of the word Bakht being synonymous to political affiliation. Pray tell me why we cannot link politics to a TV show? What's so special about them that it should be a taboo topic?. We are not referring to a certain party when we broach the topic of politicians. I hope this clarifies matters.

Cheers
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