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Posted: 12 years ago

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Originally posted by: shubsmayur

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Posted: 12 years ago

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source: www. jyotirlingas.com

The Sanskrit word Lingam' means symbol. Thus the literal meaning of Shiva Lingam is the symbol of Shiva. The Supreme Shiva doesn't have a form and every form is his form. The Shiva Lingam represents him, the Supreme Shiva who is formless. The way when we see a smoke, we infer the presence of fire, the moment we see Shiva Lingam we immediately visualize the existence of the Supreme Shiva.

It has been a common myth that Shiva Lingam represents male genital organs. This is not only misleading but also base less. Such misinterpretations are done in later Vedic period and popularized much later, when Indian literatures actually came into hands of foreign scholars. It was difficult to interpret the language and a word may have different meaning depending on the context. Some of the easy interpretation may be misleading. And such misinterpretation may actually be welcome, if you want to find the defects in somebody else's faith. This misunderstanding is can be one of the most glaring examples of such a situation. Misinterpretations of actual Sanskrit literature led to this false belief. Shiva Lingam is a differentiating mark; it is certainly not a sex mark.

That's why it is very essential to know the language first before coming to conclusion, its really very sad that people think like this its ridiculous😡, i want to sue every one who had spread this myth, what a shame people stooped to that level 🤬,

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Posted: 12 years ago

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Originally posted by: shubsmayur
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source: www. jyotirlingas.com

The Sanskrit word Lingam' means symbol. Thus the literal meaning of Shiva Lingam is the symbol of Shiva. The Supreme Shiva doesn't have a form and every form is his form. The Shiva Lingam represents him, the Supreme Shiva who is formless. The way when we see a smoke, we infer the presence of fire, the moment we see Shiva Lingam we immediately visualize the existence of the Supreme Shiva.

It has been a common myth that Shiva Lingam represents male genital organs. This is not only misleading but also base less. Such misinterpretations are done in later Vedic period and popularized much later, when Indian literatures actually came into hands of foreign scholars. It was difficult to interpret the language and a word may have different meaning depending on the context. Some of the easy interpretation may be misleading. And such misinterpretation may actually be welcome, if you want to find the defects in somebody else's faith. This misunderstanding is can be one of the most glaring examples of such a situation. Misinterpretations of actual Sanskrit literature led to this false belief. Shiva Lingam is a differentiating mark; it is certainly not a sex mark.

That's why it is very essential to know the language first before coming to conclusion, its really very sad that people think like this its ridiculous😡, i want to sue every one who spread this myth if any body think in that way yak!!!! what a shame people misinterpreted to that level 🤬,

Che! what I never knew this!Anyways thanx for sharing the exact meaning of 'Lingam'.👏

Yes the all prevading god has no gender!It is formless and eternal.Yah you're right one should first know the context before interpreting.

Shall I share another such example?😳

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Posted: 12 years ago

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Want to Share something more actually not remember the exact words but trying to write it, when there was no world only one Nirakar Bhraham was there and when supreme decided to become many from only one (Jab wah paramchetna ek se anek hona chahati thi tabhi iss sakar Shristi ki rachna hui) than only this world is created, first was Bhramad linga, from bhramand ling to vayu ling from vayu ling to agani ling from agani to jal ling from jal ling to nabh ling nabh ling to prithavi ling so the Origin of each element is from another and here the lingam means the cosmos which is interwoven with each other and after all the five elements completed than only the sakar shristi comes to existence.

One more thing when a person do the Sadhna (Meditation) and when reached to the very high level an aura in the Linga swaroop (An oval shape)is formed around his/her body according to one of the scholar to whom i have heard.so that means the Lignam represents the formless state of not only the God but also of five elements and the each creation of God.

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Posted: 12 years ago

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Originally posted by: Cool-n-Fresh

Che! what I never knew this!Anyways thanx for sharing the exact meaning of 'Lingam'.👏
Yes the all prevading god has no gender!It is formless and eternal.Yah you're right one should first know the context before interpreting.
Shall I share another such example?😳

Yaa sure 😃.

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Posted: 12 years ago

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Tomorrow!Bye for now.😊

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Ok,the think I wanted to share is...do you know about pumsavana vratha/samskara?

It was shown in UG in the SoorDas episode.Actually I understood the real meaning after watching this episode.

People often take this term 'Pumsavana Vratha' as praying for a male child.😡Which is really not in the true sense.Actually 'Pumsa' refers to the 'soul'.Read the following...

Sanskar 2: Pumsavana is a ritual conducted usually in the third month of pregnancy. If it is the first pregnancy, it can be in the fourth month also. The pregnant woman consumes certain prescribed grains. This is accompanied by religious chanting. The parents pray for the grace of God to ensure the sound development of the child in its embryo stage.But not for engendering a male issue.

It is disgusting to hear certain chants like "Let only sons be born here in this womb and let females be born in others."🤢 Actually they donot belong to our Sanskaar/Vedas/Upanishads they raise from common misunderstandings and misinterpretations of our Divine Language.

Check this hymn of Pumsavana Vratha and how it is misinterpreted.

om pumamsau mahavisnu vasudevau
pumamsau acyutanantau ubhau
puman govinda ca visnu ca
puman garbhabas tavodare

Meaning :The Supreme Lord(all prevading super soul - Paramatma).He is the only Purusha(not male in gender but one and only male who manifests in various forms),

Mahavishnu, Vasudeva, Achyuta, Ananta, Govinda, and Vishnu - All these names talk about the infinity of the Supreme Soul.And also it is this purusha(supreme soul) as a child in your womb.😊

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Posted: 12 years ago

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@ cherry- Thanks a lot for sharing 😊, well i didn't know about it and not watched the soordas episode yet, and who says it that the male child is only needed to do all the karmkand, few days back i was hearing Shri Shri Ravishankar ji he also said "our Upanishads are not biased, those people who thinks that women have no right to do the last rituals of their parents is also wrong, they have all the rights" and people think that if they have son than only they will get the moksha, is also the wrong interpretation, any one will get liberated only because of his own pious karmas not because if they have son(IN Bhagwat Mahapuran their was a katha of Evil Son Dhundkari,which tolds the story of a Man who have desire for son but when his son grownup, he becomes the evil and also misbehave with his parents and becoz of his behaviour that man got hurt and went to the saint, and then the saint suggest him to do the Bhakti of Lord than only he will get peace and attain Moksha) our society is driven by people with there male centric ego, all this contamination comes after the vedic age only, the differentiation on the basis of casteism is another one of the example of it.

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Posted: 12 years ago

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Lord Krishna to Arjuna- "Na toh Aisa hi hai ki kabhi kisi kal maine nahi tha ya tum nahi the yaa yeh Yudh ki aasha main khade log nahi the Yeh Atma na kabhi marta hai na kabhi janam leta hai, yeh nitya avinashi hai",

So here Lord Krishna saying about the the Immortal soul, the time(actually its timeless Anadi) from where the supreme exist so does every soul exist, each soul comes and goes to experience something, which is lacked in their previous experience, until it reached to the Blissful state. And if one ask is one has seen the Atman(Soul) than i can say yes one experienced it through Deep Meditation, through Bhakti 😊.

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Read the following...(Net Source)

X = Words representing properties : Words representing objects then we observe that
a) For most languages: Either X < 1 -OR- X = (approx.) 1 -OR- X (slightly) > 1
b) For Sanskrit: X is of the order of lakhs i.e. X~100000

There are two things one should keep in mind while reading Sanskrit.

1) Context: Words have different meanings in different situations. This true of every language, including Sanskrit. "The present (time) is bad." "Did you get me a present (gift)." "Let me present (show) the solution." Similarly, in Sanskrit, go' means sense organs, cow or rays of light or earth, depending on the context. But what makes Sanskrit different is the fact that in all the situations the property represented by the word go' is being satisfied. go' means something that wanders'. Sense organs keep wandering to different objects for enjoyment. Cows keep wandering to different places for grazing, rays of light keep travelling, earth keeps moving around the sun. So when the topic is astronomy, go' would not mean cow. When the topic being discussed is self-control, go' would not mean rays of light. Context is very important in any language and much more important in Sanskrit. I do not know the meaning of ashwamedh yajna because the exact meaning would depend on context and I have not read the exact text from vedas or ramayana or mahabharat that discuss the ashwamedha yajna. Those who want to defame Indian culture have tried very hard to translate slokas out of context. I do not believe them unless I myself have read the original text.

2) Accent: One more important characteristic one should look for is accent. Any vowel in Sanskrit has 3 types of pronounciations. udatta, anudatta and swarita. And the meanings of the words depend on the accent of vowels in it. For example, agniputra' could mean agni's son' or one whose son is agni' depending on the accent of the vowels. The significance of the accent is almost nil in today's languages and late classical Sanskrit, but in Vedic Sanskrit accent is very important as it could completely change the meaning. That is why you find accent markers in the text of Vedas. Vedic text without accent markers is incomplete.

Edited by Cool-n-Fresh - 12 years ago