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Posted: 13 years ago
RS R references:

I read some of the last year posts in the other thread of Ramanand Sagar Ramayan scenes which say that RSR is the best compilation of various sources of Ramayan and that it is predominantly based on RCM rather than VR. Here I am trying to make a compilation of exact source reference of the topics covered in RSR. Interested people can just read the first paragraph of VR links (Introduction - summary of the sarga) and just the title of RCM links (and one can go into detail for finding one's favourite songs based on Choupais/dohas and the entire Parshuram scene dialogs). Apart from these two sources, there is one more thread Semanti has created about Krittivas Ramayan, which can be additionally taken for help when some event like say for example, Lakshman rekha comes in the sequence. Here I try today for Balkand compilation. Members do suggest me to make any changes in style or format or formatting (to get the best idea of source proportion) so that accordingly only, I will proceed further in my further kand compilations. And somebody else may also do it parallel with me from reverse (starting from the last kand) and can help to improve or edit the arrangements of my post. The objective of this is just to get the rough idea about the proportion in which RSji based his creation on various Ramayans and to give a more concrete, objective, solid and sound answer either in favour of or against the hypothesis that RSR is not much based on VR or RSR is only based on RCM largely.

Members do let me know soon (as early as possible) if you liked this idea then only I will go further for the subsequent kands because I am free only in February (and largely during the early part) and then I will become extremely busy.


Balkand

Index:
And further click on hyperlink of Balkand on the page of above link
Putra Kamesthi yagya and Vishnu stuti by devta - Vishnu agreeing to incarnate (34 verses):
http://valmikiramayan.net/bala/sarga15/bala_15_frame.htm
RCM
Same as above (Doha 184 to 190 - 4 Chhands/Sorthas/Choupais in each)


Ram's childhood & education, and Vishwamitra's arrival after completion of education (58 verses):
Dashrath's hesitance, Vishwamitra's anger and finally Dashrath sending Ram (22+27+22=71 verses):
Killing of Tadaka (36 verses)
Weapons imparted by Vishamitra (28 verses)
Protection of Vishwamitra's rituals from Marich-Subahu (26 verses)
RCM
Childhood, Ram sent with Vishwamitra, Taadka, Vishwamitra's rituals protected (Dohas 190 to 209 - with 4/5 Choupais between them)


Story of Gangaavataran (26+30+25+41=122 verses) (Only VR)


Story of Ahalya and Ahalya uddhaar (33+22=55)
Arrival at Mithila (25 verses)
RCM
Ahalya and arrival in Mithila and Mithilavihaar (Dohas 209 to 225)

Pushpavatika and Gaurimandir (Only RCM) (Dohas 226 to 239)


Entry into Yagyashala (where Shiva's bow was kept), Dhanurbhang, Message sent to Dashrath, Dashrath's arrival in Mithila and Marraige (27+19+19+40=105 verses)
Parashuram's arrival during return journey and his ego hurt (24+24=48 verses) - After the marriage and in the presence of Dashrath (on the way back to Ayodhya) not Janak in Mithila (VR)
Arrival in Ayodhya and joy (29 verses)
RCM
Entry into Yagyashala (where Shiva's bow was kept) (Dohas 240 to 248)
Competition (Dohas 249 to 251)
Lakshman's anger (Dohas 252 to 259)
Dhanurbhang (Dohas 260, 261)
Jaymala and Parashuram's arrival (Dohas 262 to 270)
Ram-Lakshman-Parshuram dialog (Dohas 271 to 285)
Message sent to Ayodhya and departure of baaraat (Dohas 286 to 304)
Arrival of baaraat and welcoming (Dohas 305 to 321)
Marriage and farewell, arrival back to Ayodhya and joy (Dohas 322 to 359)
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Posted: 13 years ago
^^ Very noble effort bhaiya, please do keep up the good work. I will read with interest and try to collaborate when I get some free time next month. Tab tak hopefully the links I sent are of some use.

Guys!!! As some of you know I've had a renewed fascination with Bharat's bhakti for some time now right now... so much so that last weekend when I had tons and tons of homework I should have done sooner, I kept instead drifting off into RCM and VR and Ranganatha and any other Ramayan online/on my computer to read their poetry on him and listened to bhaashans on youtube and... yes, of course, made sigs šŸ˜† Here they are, enjoy, free to use!













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Posted: 13 years ago
Does anyone know if Vikram aur betaal is online completely?
I tried to record it from Zeetv šŸ˜‰ but somehow there is always a problem when they are showing the last episode so in these years I have not been able to watch the last episode.
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Posted: 13 years ago
@Lola

Lovely lovely. Aankhen aur mann dono aanandit ho gaya.

Yes I will now definitely try to do it for Ayodhya kand at least to back you up in your present fever to increase it as far as possible.

@Aradhana

Yes. I also want to watch that last episode and ending of that Yogi but I also can find the episodes on Youtube maximum upto Part 19.
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Posted: 13 years ago
^^ Yayyy can't wait! The fever's still as ever so bring it on šŸ˜† Even though in the past 2-3 weeks I've combed every single source available online for original text descriptions, other articles, literature, poetry, and even paintings of the character. Gave me so many points I wanna discuss but at the moment there's so little time to do it :(

Also found this, guys!! Check it out!
It's a documentary on RSji that spans his whole career, nothing we haven't heard before, but jump to about 37 minutes in and pay close attention for some quick "making of shots" from really pivotal scenes! One is RSji instructing Arun, Sunil, and Deepika in a panchvati scene, and another shows him demonstrating the charan paaduka scene to Arun and Sanjay. http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xo8mas_ramanand-sagar-documentary_shortfilms


And towards the end when you see all the great personalities who presented him with awards, you might catch a glimpse of my guruji :)

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Posted: 13 years ago

Originally posted by: lola610

^^ Yayyy can't wait! The fever's still as ever so bring it on šŸ˜† Even though in the past 2-3 weeks I've combed every single source available online for original text descriptions, other articles, literature, poetry, and even paintings of the character. Gave me so many points I wanna discuss but at the moment there's so little time to do it :(

Also found this, guys!! Check it out!
It's a documentary on RSji that spans his whole career, nothing we haven't heard before, but jump to about 37 minutes in and pay close attention for some quick "making of shots" from really pivotal scenes! One is RSji instructing Arun, Sunil, and Deepika in a panchvati scene, and another shows him demonstrating the charan paaduka scene to Arun and Sanjay. http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xo8mas_ramanand-sagar-documentary_shortfilms


And towards the end when you see all the great personalities who presented him with awards, you might catch a glimpse of my guruji :)

I saw those before! Especially the one where RSji was demonstrating the charan paaduka scene to Arun and Sanjay, it was really interesting and of course, well needed since we hardly have any offscreen videos of RSR.
I can't open the link in my lappy though to rewatch it. Do you knwo why?
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Posted: 13 years ago

Originally posted by: lola610

^^ Yayyy can't wait! The fever's still as ever so bring it on šŸ˜† Even though in the past 2-3 weeks I've combed every single source available online for original text descriptions, other articles, literature, poetry, and even paintings of the character. Gave me so many points I wanna discuss but at the moment there's so little time to do it :(

Also found this, guys!! Check it out!
It's a documentary on RSji that spans his whole career, nothing we haven't heard before, but jump to about 37 minutes in and pay close attention for some quick "making of shots" from really pivotal scenes! One is RSji instructing Arun, Sunil, and Deepika in a panchvati scene, and another shows him demonstrating the charan paaduka scene to Arun and Sanjay. http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xo8mas_ramanand-sagar-documentary_shortfilms


And towards the end when you see all the great personalities who presented him with awards, you might catch a glimpse of my guruji :)

Excellent excellent.šŸ‘ I watched every minute of the video and also saw Dada Vaswani and Chidanandji (he had visited our house too along with his disciples and I also am in a photo with him as a child in our album most probably šŸ˜). His speech about the new generation in the end, his love for his wife and family, his humble example of a pen on paper, he mentioning about his values inculcated in all his writings and films such that not a single scene would make him feel ashamed to watch along with the family and many many inspiring parts. His childhood and young age biography reminded me about my presentation in MBA on Ramanand Sagar - an entrepreneur. And apart from mythology section, loved the part of my favourite movie Aarzoo too.😊 Did you notice the same sweater of Rajendra Kumar and Ramanand Sagar in the song 'Bol mere Sathiya' of Lalkar - meri costume expert bachchi šŸ˜†? And who is there at 58:25 awarding RSji? Very very known and familiar face. Just 3-4 clips before Dadaji. And Ravindra Jain and B R Chopra are missing in the documentary who I believe should have been there. And I always thought RSji had 4 sons. Who is the 5th? His name is not mentioned even in this video anywhere.

Have you incorporated this link on the first page of 25th Anniversary thread? It has to be there.
Edited by ShivangBuch - 13 years ago
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Posted: 13 years ago

Originally posted by: lola610

^^ Yayyy can't wait! The fever's still as ever so bring it on šŸ˜† Even though in the past 2-3 weeks I've combed every single source available online for original text descriptions, other articles, literature, poetry, and even paintings of the character. Gave me so many points I wanna discuss but at the moment there's so little time to do it :(

Also found this, guys!! Check it out!
It's a documentary on RSji that spans his whole career, nothing we haven't heard before, but jump to about 37 minutes in and pay close attention for some quick "making of shots" from really pivotal scenes! One is RSji instructing Arun, Sunil, and Deepika in a panchvati scene, and another shows him demonstrating the charan paaduka scene to Arun and Sanjay. http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xo8mas_ramanand-sagar-documentary_shortfilms


And towards the end when you see all the great personalities who presented him with awards, you might catch a glimpse of my guruji :)

Finally some offscreen moments of RSR😃 thank you for sharing.
I do have a "kind of press conference video of RSR". I think everybody has seen it . Arunji was in blue shirt, Padmaji wore a nice saree and so did Deepika. Ravindra Jain and ofcourse RS were present.
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Posted: 13 years ago
Very glad you guys enjoyed it as I thought you would!

@ Janu - no idea why you can't open the link, maybe you're using a different browser?

@ Shivang - daau I will try to rewatch the clip and figure out who that was some time this week, and as for the sweater, I didn't catch it... oops šŸ˜† Actually just forwarded through and only played wherever I saw mytho clips, will watch in detail first chance I get and see what other observations I can make :D

@ Aradhana - nahin yaar I've never seen that clip before 😲 Or at least I don't remember it. If it's online or you can upload it, please share!
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Posted: 13 years ago
Yaar par ye site bahut hi harassing hai. Kaash ye video youtube par hota. Today I was showing it to my student (You know whom 😊) and it was just not loading fast enough and had to cancel the program. Maine to dekh liya patience ke sath. But if we want to show others, this is very poor place for that video to be. We can't go back to the previous point of time of the video downloaded and seen. If we go backward, unlike youtube, it starts downloading the entire video from the beginning all over again.😔
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