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Posted: 14 years ago
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Oh thanks, I somewhere recall Ravan pronouncing the name in ASR so got confused... so it was Aranya.

Well one thing that I never understand is that if someone doesn't believe in marriage then why is one forced to do it... whether it was Narad or Vanraj? Ya...I know that Narad had to fulfill his pitri rin & Vanraj being a King had to place the welfare of the kingdom above his own personal wishes... but still this question doesn't leave me😆 ...really difficult to understand the mahima & nyaaya of Shani Dev😆

Hey I didn't know Ichhavaku was the son of Manu or did I know but forgot😕😆 Well I don't think Shani would have spared Surya dev if he is wrong coz Shani doesn't seem to spare anybody whether it's Mahadev or Suryadev. I missed those episodes but in the casting it shows he had used his powers on them. I really wish I could find some videos of 2008 & early 2009😔

Well if that is so... then even I would also want to know who was Chhaya's other son & daughter besides Shani. I thought he was the only son of her. I missed out a lot of episodes. Shani never got along with Manu, Yam & Yamuna, when I watched it after a gap, the bonding had already developed between the four, then again I missed out a lot of episodes due to 🤬power-cut & got to watch only a few tracks on youtube😔 I really wish if it was possible Imagine could repeat the episodes from 2008 at some time. Imagine even hasn't uploaded all the videos of MSDK😡, especially the old videos of 2008 & 2009😭
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Vik
In the original Surya-dev story, Surya was married to Sanjna, the daughter of Vishwakarma. She gave birth to Manu, and later, as time past, Surya-dev's intensity increased, which she was unable to stand. So he cursed her that her next son would be repulsive to everybody, and next daughter extremely fickle. That son was Yama, and daughter Yamuna (I believe that's the brother-sis pair celebrated on bhai-duj).
Finally, Sanjna secretly left, and sent her shadow Chaya to Surya, who had no idea about this. She too gave birth to 3 children like Sanjna, and she was blatantly partial to her own kids, and tormented Manu, Yama & Yamuna. Manu being more saintly decided to take the mahaan route, but Yama complained about it to Surya, who noticed it and realized that Chaya couldn't possibly be the mother of the first 3 kids. Surya-dev then confronted her, and she confessed.
Surya-dev then went out to look for Sanjna, but the latter, after spending some time w/ her father, was told by him that she couldn't stay @ her maayka forever, so she left and took the form of a mare. Vishwakarma told Surya the root of the problem, so Suryadev asked him to mechanically chisel down some of his intensity 😕 They then went and found Sanjna in the form of a mare. After being assured that her intensity was reduced, she agreed to let Surya-dev come near him. While she was in her mare form, she gave birth to the Ashwin twins. Finally, she assumed her original form, and re-united w/ Suryadev. So Suryadev ended up w/ both wives, and his 6 children.
Sounds like an episode for MSDK, except that Shani would then have to punish Chaya for treating him well 🤣 at the expense of Manu, Yama and Yamuna. Wonder whether he can do it 😆
As for Shani's decision to punish Narada & Vanraj, I guess we can't hold people in the Satya, Treta & Dwapar yugas in the same standard as today. If Shani were to, say, force Jagya to take back Anandi, I'd think he's nuts.
Rajshri.com did have all the serials on their page, but pulled them. They are sorely missed.
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Posted: 14 years ago
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WU for 27th August, 2011


The epi starts with Shani saying that a kid's good or bad nature is totally dependent on the upbringing of his/her parents as they are the first teachers who teach their kids the values & principles of life. Shani says he's going to tell the story about Attrey who was destined to write the Rigveda.

Rishi Mandukya is teaching his son Attrey that he should not disobey his elders, he should never do something that would make them feel insulted & he should never display his knowledge in front of his elders. Attrey promises to follow his father's teaching.

Shani is shown saying that Rishi Mandukya has a selfish motive behind teaching his son these things for the sake of his own prestige.

Attrey is shown following his father's teachings. He is about to sit in the front line while another student senior than him comes there, so he leaves the place & lets that senior student sit in front while he sits behind. A background song is being played saying that Attrey has now become quiet due to his father's wrong teachings; he lets others go in front & himself is left behind😭

Shani says that Rishi Mandukya has given wrong education to Attrey.

Another Rishi enters the ashram, & is welcomed by Mandukya. Mandukya says that he has invited him to take a test of all his students. The rishi sees Attrey & asks him who that kid is & when he gets to know that Attrey is none other than Mandukya's son, he decides to ask him the question first. He asks Attrey about Brahma. Attrey remembers that his father had told him not to display his knowledge in front of his elders, so he stays quiet. The rishi gets angry & says if Mandukya couldn't educate his own son then how he would educate the other students. He calls Attrey stupid & says that he'll talk to another senior rishi(forgot the name😳) & get Mandukya's teaching rights cancelled as he has no rights to teach if he can't teach his own son properly.

Mandukya is furious & is calling Attrey stupid. Tara (Mandukya's wife) defends Attrey saying that he is following what he has been taught by his father. Mandukya then starts calling her stupid too. He says he disowns his stupid wife & stupid son & will marry another woman & have intelligent children😡

Shani says now Mandukya is liable to get punished.

Tara & Attrey are praying in front of God, while they get shocked on seeing Mandukya bringing another wife. The second wife throws Tara & Attrey out of the house & they start living somewhere in another hut in the ashram. Both the mother & son start working hard for their living.

Tara is shown standing on a well & says she can't see her son suffering like this so she's going to put an end to her life. She is about to jump in the well while Shani appears in front of her. She bows in front of him. Shani tells her that what she's trying to do is a sin & has she ever thought what will happen to Attey if she dies. He tells her to leave the ashram as Attrey is destined to carry out a very important task in future.

Tara & Attrey leave the ashram & enter another ashram. Tara is feeling thirsty. Attrey sees a water pot & is about to take water then stops & thinks he should first take permission before taking the water. He calls out to the owner of the ashram. Shani in disguised form appears there & says there is no need to take permission to drink water. He tells Attrey that he is impressed with his knowledge & tells them to stay there.

Attrey is writing down some mantras on a paper. Shani comes there & picks up one paper & reads it. He seems impressed & asks Attrey did he write it himself. Attrey seems to be thinking. Shani replies that Attrey didn't understand what his father was actually trying to teach him. Shani says there's nothing wrong in displaying knowledge as it's a good thing to spread knowledge. Shani says if the knowledge is displayed to insult the seniors then only it is considered bad otherwise there's no harm in displaying knowledge in front of the seniors.

Attrey (his eyes are closed) is shown pronouncing mantras, after which Varun dev appears in front of him. After his second mantra, Vayu dev appears over there, then Indra dev, then Surya dev & finally Brahma. Varun dev says they've all come there for Attrey & asks him to ask for a boon. Attrey opens his eyes & says his teacher had told him to pronounce those mantras & has nothing to ask for.

Shani in the disguised form comes there. Brahma calls his name out & Shani bows in front of Brahma. Attrey looks at Shani; Shani disappears from that point & appears in his true form in the line of the other gods. Attrey seems happy. Shani requests Brahma to let Attrey complete the Rigveda & requests all the gods to bless Attrey for this task. All the gods raise their hands & provide him with the power of knowledge.

Attrey is shown writing down the Rigveda. As time passes by, he grows up into a young man & is shown still writing the Veda.

Shani says now it's time for Mandukya to get punished for what he did to Tara & Attrey.

Mandukya is shown his ashram. Shani in the disguise form appears there. Mandukya welcomes him & asks him to take a test of the students over there & the one who is the best among all will take over the responsibilities of the ashram. Mandukya's son (Kritava) stands up & says there's no need to take any kind of test as automatically his son will take his place. Another son of Mandukya also supports Kritava. Mandukya feels insulted. Shani in his mind is saying that once Mandukya called his son stupid when he listened to him & now his other sons are not listening to him.

Mandukya is complaining to his second wife & she too supports Kritava. They throw him out of the house. She disowns her husband & the other sons too disown him. Mandukya tells Shani in the disguised form that he's now being punished for what he had done in the past. Shani tells him to go towards the north direction of this ashram if he wants to wash away his sins. Mandukya leaves & on the way drops down out of thirst. A woman pours water in his hands; she's none other than Tara. Tara recognizes him & calls out Swaami, he too sees her apologizes. She takes him to the ashram & calls out for Attrey & tells him that it's his father. Attrey & Mandukya hug each other & have tears in their eyes.

Mandukya, Tara & Attrey are in front of the idol of Shani & Attrey says that he has finished writing the Rigveda & asks the idol of Shani to accept it. Shani appears in front of them & tells Attrey to keep it for the people living on the earth. Shani says that the Rigveda will do the work of a bridge of connecting Gods with the people living on the earth.


Shani says that parents should not educate their children for the sake of their own selfish motives but for the welfare of their kids & for the welfare of the society.

The episode ends.

Edited by vik rocks - 14 years ago
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Posted: 14 years ago
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I watched the last 20 min of this episode - from the point that Shani visited Mandukya in his ashram. It was funny to see the latter getting humiliated by his sons. Hope to catch a rerun next week - so Attrey was the rishi who compiled the Rig Vedas? That seems to suggest that this episode is from the Satya Yuga. Incidentally, just wondering whether Attrey was among the Saptarshis who Vishnu in his Matsya avatar rescued so that they could help keep the Vedas alive?
As for the show, I didn't like the end, where Tara & Attrey took him back. After all, this wasn't after a day's or even a month's incident - it was years later, when Attrey was a young man, and had missed his father for his entire childhood. I didn't think that Mandukya deserved to be accepted back by the family he had so cruelly rejected. This story seemed to somewhat parallel the one about Ashtavakra, where a rishi curses his son still in the womb for correcting him about the way he chanted his mantras. But there at least, the curse, while disabling the kid, did not separate him from his parents. Maybe this might be a future Shani episode.
Glad to see you back - missed you in DBSK
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Hey Guys,

Here are two sigs I made of Debina as Savitri Devi...I just saw the episode and it's really good!👏 I took 150 pics and will post them tomorrow.😉
-Janu
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Great Sigs Janakiraghunath👍🏼

Well Vrish I agree that Tara & Attrey taking him back so easily was hard to digest but then it was Satya Yug at that time so what to do LOL!😆 But honestly I don't think the punishment given to Mandukya was enough, he deserved some more third degree😈

Thanks for missing me LOL!😳 Actually after a few months I have my exams so I'm controlling my I-F & TV habits😉 I visit I-F only once or twice a week. And I have this habit of writing down long posts which I'm trying to remove😆 Once I'm done with my exams, hopefully I'll try to be a bit regular, till then I'll just drop in occasionally😳

Edited by vik rocks - 14 years ago
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Imagine TV's Toppers
Serial No.RankDateDayStart TimeProgrammeTVR
15427/08/2011Sat21:00CHANDRAGUPTA MAURYA0.99
25927/08/2011Sat20:00SHANI SHINGANAPUR KATHAYEN0.93
36124/08/2011Wed20:30SAWAARE SABKE SAPNE PREETO0.89
46524/08/2011Wed20:59BIND BANUGA GHODI CHADUNGA0.88
56622/08/2011Mon21:59BABA AISO VAR DHOONDO0.86
68024/08/2011Wed20:00DWARKADHEESH BHAGWAAN SHREE KR0.73
79322/08/2011Mon21:30DHARAM PATNI0.67

Target Group : CS 4 + Yrs ;

For the week from 21/08/2011 to 27/08/2011

Source: TAM peoplemeter system

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Posted: 14 years ago
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Vik

All the best in your exams 👍🏼 Incidentally, forgot to tell you - like your Shani profile. Just don't see it much, since I'm more often logged in, and see your BAVD avi instead 😆

[YOUTUBE]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E-jlakK4PBc[/YOUTUBE]

The episode was set in the Satya Yuga, where Shukracharya wants to avenge the killing of Hiranyaksha by Varaha (so that was b4 even Hiranyakashipu got down to this job) So he asks a demon called Dundoobi. It starts w/ Dundoobi being distraught on seeing Hiranyaksha's body (where was Hiranyakashipu?) Shukracharya asks him to destroy all yagnas and terrifying the main sage's disciples so that the Devas couldn't receive the offerings collected by Agni dev, and fell ill. So they approached Shani, who first tried warning Dundoobi, and then after he was ignored, asked the main Rishi performing those yagnas to do a major one, which would not be destroyed.
The rishi does the yagna, and his disciples are scared that the demon would disrupt it. However, Shani appears in a rishi garb, and criticizes them for not doing their duty and finding their lives dearer than their duty. He then prepares to do the yagna in someone's place, to which the disciples all object and go back to their kunds to perform the yagnas. The fires are re-lighted.
Dundoobi reappears, and decides to kill them all. He creates a maya form of several demons and orders the yagnas destroyed. Shani fires his Trishul @ those demons and destroys them. Dundoobi fires rocks @ Shani, who successfully burns them w/ his trushul. He then causes it to rain w/ his vision, but Shani staves that off as well. Frustrated, he starts hurling weapins @ Shani, which again get destroyed.
Finally, Dundoobi appears and attacks Shani from behind. Shani however turns just in time, and tells him that his cremation will happen in those sacrifical fires. The 2 of them now have a duel. Finally, Shani knocks him down and he falls, dropping his weapon as well. The fires light up, and Agni takes the offerings of the rishis, and revives the devas, while the demon is cornered w/ Shani's spear near him. Finally, the demon catches fire and burns to death. The rishis and devas rejoice.
The rishis ask Shani to reveal who he is, and Shani reveals his true form to them, and they bow to him. The lead rishi praises the ultimate truth that is Shani, and Shani rewards him w/ his usual bhashan 😆 telling them that anyone who tries to disrupt those who do their duty will meet an end like this demon.
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Thanks for the update! Well in my POV, the episode was quite OK, not so great. I felt something was missing or the story was limited only to the torture done to the bhrahmins. I was expecting some more excitement😆 Btw it was quite strange to see all the Gods visiting Shani for help😲 I thought they would meet Narad on the way then go to Brahma & then Brahma would describe his boon & suggest them to ask help from either Lord Vishnu or Shiva😆 Actually, I forgot, it's a Shani serial, so obviously they'll go to Shani for help😆

Btw Dhoondabi's make up was really weird with two small horns on the forehead & in the middle a bump & that red-colored face😕 Ok so it was Shani who killed Dhoondabi. That was new for me, I didn't know that. Only knew about his bro Hiranyaksha being killed by Varaha😳

I have to admit Shani looked great in that get up with a trishul in his hand. Otherwise most of his disguised get ups are limited to the same kind of dress up with a turban on his head


Originally posted by: _Vrish_

^^^ Shani can't punish Narakasura, since he'd have to be w/ his wife while attacking Naraka, and Shani's wife seemed to have left him long ago after cursing him. So Shani would have to marry again if he has to take action. Or maybe he could marry one of Naraka's captives.

Ok Vrish I've quoted your post from the DBSK forum & hope you can discuss in more detail as I have no idea about Shani's wife cursing him. Do you know who his wife was & why she cursed him?😕

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