Originally posted by: JanakiRaghunath
I see the list, looking good, looking good as for the Swayamvar and Vivaah in #6 though, don't you mean RSR? It's those that disappeared since you copied them over from the CC. ASR we have, you and I both did the wedding and Minu did the Swayamvar or at least most of it. Oops, that's what I meant, my bad.😆 I'll prob do the rest of the Mithila scenes as well while I'm in the DVD.
Score, now I'm getting all excited loveee all those scenes so much! especially since I've been stuck on the Janak-Dashrath meeting lately and the talk that RS gives after it, sooo much sweetness and humility there ❤️
ome other requests I've got, but can't decide where to put them in the list since I like all the ones you have in there too 😕 Mainly Sundar Kand, everything from "Siya ki khoj mein" where the vaanars are looking for Sita, to the Chudamani moment since tinypic ate that 😡 Oh, right! I'll actually put that before Swayamvar and Vivah, because we've had a bunch of sigs and reqs on those scenes to last us for awhile more...I love the Sundar Kand the most out of RSR, it was sooo beautifully taken😍, that I know I'll have fun doing it.
Thankooo, double excited now 🥳 you're really taking this aagya thing pretty seriously huh, me likey 🤣
My grandmother used to tell me this story when I was young, and she said that Vibhishan, despite being a pure soul and a Ram Bhakt, had still not left complete materialism so Shri Ram had Hanuman perform this leela to break him of that teensy weensy bit of pride he still held towards his possessions. It is kind of like the Bali Chakravarthy story we're discussing in the D&D thread. While Bali was a good and honorable soul, he still have that pride left which Vishnu had to break. Likewise, Shri Ram too did not want any of his devotees to have even a bit of materialism or pride, so the point of Hanuman breaking apart the necklace was not to insult Vibhishan, but to break him of his materialism, as small as it was. There are two versions of this story, and RSR and ASR both showed one. The one from RSR is in Valmiki Ramayan, I think, with Sitaji giving her own necklace to Hanuman as a token of honor, while the one in ASR is either from Racharitmanas or Adhyatma Ramayan, or even both. I don't generally have a problem with either version, since I can understand that being King, Vibs would have an iota of pride of his possessions, and that as his friends, Ram and Hanuman would wish to rid him of it.
Yeah I don't doubt that it came from somewhere, and I can understand Vibhishan having a trace of pride... for that matter even in RSR, when Shri Ram asked him where he got his military smarts, he'd be like "I am Ravan's brother after all"... but more in a jokey way, not really being serious 😆 But... the idea that he would be so sarcastic towards Hanuman who was in a sense his guru for encouraging to take the brave step he did and come to Shri Ram... remember, "tumharo mantra Vibhishan maana"... and who but the guru gives a mantra! So yeah, that goes beyond pride, it's ungratefulness - and in a person who I've revered for so long I can't accept that 😳
Really? But Indraprasth Nirmaan already happened in SK and Krishna did not even marry Rukmini then.😕 I guess it is during the Pandavas' exile, since five wives in the span of 13 years does not sound too unreasonable? Btw, do you know the stories of the other ones? The first three are the most famous and almost every knows their stories, but no one knows much about 4-8. Who was Kalindi? And Mitravinda? Was one of them Goda Devi? My mom told me the story of a Goda Devi and she mentioned her marrying Krishna...she may have been number 7 or 8.
See SK and MB both have that sorta structure sometimes, where without telling you, what they're doing is giving a quick runthrough of the main events and then taking you back to an earlier one to explore it in detail. In MB it's common during the childhood epis - like alll this stuff happens with the adolescent Krishna really quickly, and then Rohini goes to visit VD in the bandigrah (how she managed that feat is still a mystery 😕) to describe some of his earlier pranks, like the tying to the pillar and the hiding of the gopis' clothes, in more detail. In SK, you get a real fast trip through the early MB stories of Draupadi's swayamvar and Indraprasth nirmaan and Shishupal Vadh - and then the more detailed accounts of Jambvanti, Subhadra, etc that may have actually occured earlier are explored. So yeah, the next 2 are also, as far as I remember reading, part of the Indraprasth set-up phase... and I do know some of the stories though none of them are named Goda Devi...? Maybe a Southern variation of the names, since they do have alternate names in sometimes even withing the same text... for instance, Nagnajiti is also referred to as Satya or Neela. But... this sounds like it deserves its own thread, what say 😉
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