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Posted: 19 years ago
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Yes, branding is important. Singers need to keep reinventing themselves as well, just like actors do, in addition to performing consistently well. Shows like II2, FG, SRGMP help the contestants in attaining an image, which may be a reason why Abhijeet, Qazi and Rupu are very popular today. Qazi wasn't the best singer in FG, but he had the image/brand from the start. He set himself apart from the hundreds of other contestants who auditioned for FG. He was one of the first contestants I noticed in the auditions.

So if you want to be successful, you have to market yourself well to the public. Its def not just about looks, but having people identify with you and your music and having endearing qualities, I suppose. With so many aspiring singers, its easy to get lost in the crowd.
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Yup I agree with you ticks,the consistent success in ur respective fields is very very important.If u get a BIG hit in watever field,u r the topic of discussion everywhere but if U dont perform upto that level next time the same ppl will boo at u.Sachim was booed at Mumbai naa when he got dismissed poorly.So yeah consistency is the KEY here......

yeah a singer has to market himself or herself thts true.PPl are looking 4 a star who shines among the otherwise normal crowd.Along with talent u also need the confidence and ability to showcase it in the way tht suits the public.....U need to b different and u need to keep reinventing urself based on the current taste....one day it cud b melody,the next day it will be hi music.So basically I guess the singer needs to be VERSATILE and ENERGETIC.Which is wat I think is the reason 4 the success of Sonu Nigam(sorry guys if I am saying Sonu Nigam too many times but u can see from my Id that I am a die hard fan...a singer myself,I consider him my Guru thts why 😛 😛 😛 )
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Posted: 19 years ago
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Hey even I dunno if its the rite thread to say it but....

HAPPY BIRTHDAY JAY SEAN 😳
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Posted: 19 years ago
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Slowly but surely we are getting there....

No fat-salary, IIM grad looks upto Abhijit Sawant..
http://www.expressindia.com/fullstory.php?newsid=65350

Saregama-HMV joins Dhwani to promote classical music
http://www.musicindiaonline.com/n/i/top_stories/1675/
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Posted: 19 years ago
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ticks ji, just a few comments on that

- I think the singers like Sonu Nigam are youth icons are to more part of India than are Narayan Murthy or an Ambani.. Look at the turnout for any of the reality shows auditions.. The number of people who come and most of them sing Sonu Nigam songs. A lot of people in India atleast think that they have hte potential to become the next Sonu Nigam of India. How many average youth, barring the ones who are in Software or into Business look upto Narayan Murthy or Ambani. The singers have a reach from a 5 year old to a 50 year old while a Narayan Murthy or Ambani have a threshold of people from 19 - 40 and for people in that field. I would like to say that Cricketers and Bollywood actors are probably the most popular youth Icons..

- I dont think Abhijit Sawant or Qazi/Rupu have carved a niche for themselves in being music icons. At the end of the day, they HAVE to do play back... Indian Pop Scene isn't that big as the bollywood scene is. So many pop groups have come and gone but very few have managed to leave an impact. Even singers like Adnan Sami who started off as a pop star had to move onto Bollywood movies.. Bollywood movie has a far n wide reach throughout india as compared to pop music. Rite now they are music idols but soon they are going to also become 'struggling' play back singers.

- Do we really need a Music Icon? A country that has produced a Lata Mangeshkar, Rafi, Asha Bhonsle, Kishore Kumar, Manna Dey, Mukesh, S P Balasubramanium, M S Subbalaksmi, Hariharan, Shankar Mahadevan, Dr. Balamurli Krishna, Pt. Hariprasad Chaurasia, Pt. Jasraj, Pt. Bhimsen Joshi, Sonu Nigam, Shaan, Alka Yagnik, Kavita Krishnamurthy, Sadhana Sargam, Chitra, K K, Sunidhi Chauhan, Shreya Goshal and many many more great singers, who have captured the hearts of so many variety of people around the world, I think we have enough music icons and idols to look upto!
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Posted: 19 years ago
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Originally posted by: ticks

Slowly but surely we are getting there....

No fat-salary, IIM grad looks upto Abhijit Sawant..
http://www.expressindia.com/fullstory.php?newsid=65350

Saregama-HMV joins Dhwani to promote classical music
http://www.musicindiaonline.com/n/i/top_stories/1675/



Thanks for the articles ticks. The second article is encouraging. Now I'm curious to see how they'll repackage Indian classical music. Having concerts throughout India is a good start.
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Posted: 19 years ago
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Originally posted by: sonyaee



Thanks for the articles ticks. The second article is encouraging. Now I'm curious to see how they'll repackage Indian classical music. Having concerts throughout India is a good start.



I think to have more music like Morning Raga will help.. such a beautiful way to bring out classical music to youth. Thaye Yashoda is such a wonderful Kirtana and the works on this song in hte movie made it just fantastic !
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Another related article-

Reality TV stars earning BIG bucks

Abhilasha Ojha in New Delhi | December 30, 2005

Limelight. Those who love it, want it and will do anything for it. They'll stand in long queues and fight with families (in some cases) only to find themselves facing the arclights, getting makeovers, becoming instant stars and raking in the moolah.

And at the end of the day, some of them will say a silent prayer, thanking their stars, cellphones, the SMS culture and the Great Indian Reality Show that has catapulted them to fame.

Ask Amit Sana, Indian Idol's first runner-up, and he'll tell you only too excitedly. "When I watch Season II of Indian Idol, I feel proud to have already lived my dream." He should know, he was chucked out of Channel V's Popstars Hunt in the very first round but got off to a flying start on Indian Idol.

Making real money

  • Abhijeet Sawant: Indian Idol: charges Rs 5 lakh per show. Has moved to Mumbai's Vile Parle area in a five-bedroom flat.
  • Sunil Pal: Great Indian Laughter Challenge champion: A former tea vendor, he now charges around Rs 100,000 per show.
  • Vinit: Zee Challenge 2005: Hopes to charge at least Rs 200,000 for shows for starters and Rs 15,000-25,000 for playback singing. Has already sung for three films.
  • Himani: Zee Challenge 2005: Sang a thumri in Kalpana Lajmi's Chingaari. Is getting live show offers.
  • Amit Tandon: Indian Idol contestant; is a TV actor. Monthly income: Close to Rs 400,000 to Rs 500,000.
  • Amit Sana: Ist runner up, Indian Idol; Doesn't like to quote a figure but is in the Rs 200,000 to Rs 500,000 bracket, per show. Drives a Hyundai Accent, is signing playback singing contracts for films.
  • Harish Moyale: Indian Idol contestant; Bought a Maruti Swift for his wife, holds singing workshops.
  • Anand Narshiman: Winner of ESPN's Harsha Kee Khoj.

"It's fierce," he cautions, speaking of the competition due to the rising number of reality talent hunt shows where a few lucky participants get to show off their talent to try and make it big in the Rs 22,200 crore (Rs 222 billion) Indian entertainment industry.

"Earlier the struggle was so different," says Anu Malik, "it took us years to establish ourselves." Sonu Nigam too had famously said on one of the Indian Idol episodes, "I wish I could participate too." He right, for in the business of entertainment where marketing plays such a crucial role, Sawant's best-selling album Aapka Abhijeet sold a whopping 5 million copies.

The album was pitted against Nigam's Chanda Kee Doli at the recent MTV Immies and won hands down in the best album category. "The reach of Indian Idol was unbelievable," says Sana, readying for another album, a New Year's eve show in Bhubaneswar, and "forging contacts with music directors over coffee".

Sawant must be thanking the reality TV genre too that within months has changed his personality, fortunes, address and bank balance. For Mumbai's Mahim area resident who performed at shows with his uncle for barely Rs 2,500-4,000, Sawant now comes attached with a hefty price tag of Rs 500,000. He's moved into a five-bedroom flat in posh Vile Parle and is an icon of sorts for millions of Indians. Episodes of him in the pre-Indian Idol days, like singing in front of Shankar Mahadevan on a street, are almost legendary.

What makes the lure of reality television so irresistible? "It makes young people like me famous at such an early age," explains Rooprekha Banerjee. The programme Fame Gurukul that attracted lakhs of contestants drew to a nail-biting finish where Kashmir's Qazi Tauqeer and Bengal's Banerjee were declared winners.

Banerjee has moved to Mumbai permanently with her parents and is busy doing live shows and promoting programmes on Sony TV. "Qazi and I were even offered a film together," says Rex D'Souza who was declared the runner-up on the same show. "I've refused but I'm sure he (Qazi) will take it. I will concentrate on my singing," he adds.

In Mumbai's Zee Studios, 17-year-old Vinit is doing just that: concentrating on his singing in the hope of winning Zee's Challenge 2005. He's also getting offers for playback singing and has already sung for three films under musician Himesh Reshammiya's guidance.

His colleagues Himani and Rajiv (who was eliminated recently) have also sung for Kalpana Lajmi's film Chingari. "Some of the eliminated participants are already getting live show offers and are charging nearly Rs 50,000-60,000," says Gajendra Singh, one of the pioneers who introduced the concept of talent hunt shows in India.

He's confident that contestants who've managed to stay on the show will fetch "not less than Rs 150,000-200,000 at least".

It is rumoured that nearly Rs 50 lakh (Rs 5 million) is being spent on the making of each episode of Challenge 2005 and 40 lakh (4 million) votes are pouring in per week on the show.

"Our focus is really on the quality of singing," says Singh, who feels the USP of the show has been convincing top-notch music directors like Himesh Reshamiya, Aadesh Shrivastava and Ismail Darbar to train the participants.

"We have a gruelling schedule with nearly eight hours of daily riyaaz besides shootings, recordings and performing in different parts of the city," says Vinit. But he's not complaining.

"After all, a two album contract and a flat in Mumbai along with freebies like colour TVs, iPods, mobile phones and designer clothes thrown in for good measure make for a lucrative package.

While the winner takes it all, there are very few losers on the reality shows. Take Raju Shrivastava of the Great Indian Laughter Challenge that was aired on Star One, for instance. He may not be wearing the laughter crown on his head but film offers are already pouring in for his humour-laced antics. Zee TV has roped him for a special year-end show on the channel.

Amit Tandon's career graph also looks fetching. A Balaji production house favourite, Tandon's buffed image made him a favourite contestant on Indian Idol. Now, he's all set to die in one Balaji serial only to get resurrected in another with a "rockstar hero role.

A role on Balaji's Kyunki Saas Bhi Kabhi Bahu Thi is on the cards," he says, crossing his fingers. He says he's happy with his current earnings of Rs 450,000. That's a figure a majority of stars of reality TV shows will quote for live shows, 20 per cent of which goes to television channels that promote them. The second rung of stars charge anywhere between Rs 40,000-100,000 and some even hold singing and acting workshops.

But not everyone believes in the success of reality TV. For some, it's no more than a marketing gimmick to attract TRP ratings and generate revenue through SMSes and phone calls that cost nearly Rs 6 and Rs 2.50 respectively, from which 40 per cent goes to channels and the rest goes to the service providers (in this case, Airtel and Hutch).

"As long as we're seen on television, we're successful," says Rex. He could be right. After all, what happened to the star cast of Cinestars Ki Khoj, the hyped talent hunt show from Zee? Singh defends, "They're shooting for a film that is being produced by filmmaker Subhash Ghai." Ajay Vidyasagar, senior VP, (marketing & communication), Star India warns: "You can't overkill the concept because these programmes are short-lived. The channel can't always bank on reality TV," he says.

But for now the flavour of reality TV is going strong.

Inputs from Aabhas Sharma


http://www.rediff.com/money/2005/dec/30tv.htm


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