Both Sreeram and Rakesh deserves to be in top 2

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Posted: 15 years ago
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Both are very good singers. Both complement each other's singing also. Its good thing which I have noticed in this season of Indian Idol. Rakesh is a very good singer as well as good human being. On the other side Sreeram is very descent and matured person and also most versatile singer who has great control with his voice. Whatever it is I see these 2 singers in top 2 and I hope any one of these 2 singers wins the Indian Idol 5.
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Posted: 15 years ago
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The rest of the 3 singers are good but not the best. Shivam is very ok singer for me. He sings well but I don't see him in the top 2. Swaroop sings with feel but he struggles to sing with proper tone. Bhumi too is very average singer.
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Posted: 15 years ago
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I don't agree...I see Sreeram and Shivam in top 2. Shivam is a trained classical singer (under Suresh wadkar ji) ...he is versatile, has gud potential singing the "toughest" songs....and a perfect playback voice.

Rakesh has much more to learn from them.

it's my POV anyways.
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Posted: 15 years ago
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"Sreeram is a fulltime playback singer in south and sung for more then 20 South movies, had already taken part in many reality shows including star voice of India, had done countless concerts in India and also three INTERNATIONAL concerts in three different countries of the world, has sung countless jingles on Tv and is professionally trained for the last 18 years,

Don't u think isn't it unfair with the totally raw and amateur singers like Rakesh, and Shivam etc who don't even have any formal training in music, to allow fulltime professional playback singers like Sreeram to compete with them?"
In that case, Sonu Nigam, Shaan and Sreya Ghosal should also be allowed to take part in the competition.


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Posted: 15 years ago
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Originally posted by: hossainn

"Sreeram is a fulltime playback singer in south and sung for more then 20 South movies, had already taken part in many reality shows including star voice of India, had done countless concerts in India and also three INTERNATIONAL concerts in three different countries of the world, has sung countless jingles on Tv and is professionally trained for the last 18 years,


Don't u think isn't it unfair with the totally raw and amateur singers like Rakesh, and Shivam etc who don't even have any formal training in music, to allow fulltime professional playback singers like Sreeram to compete with them?"
In that case, Sonu Nigam, Shaan and Sreya Ghosal should also be allowed to take part in the competition.




If this is true about Shreeram having sung in more than 20 films (big budget movies or not), then I agree with what you just said....I was under the impression that he had sung only for a couple of films (which is still ok)....if what you say is true, then even Sunidhi can think of participating.... hey, that Yashraj movie deal would not pinch her 😛
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Originally posted by: Dookie77



If this is true about Shreeram having sung in more than 20 films (big budget movies or not), then I agree with what you just said....I was under the impression that he had sung only for a couple of films (which is still ok)....if what you say is true, then even Sunidhi can think of participating.... hey, that Yashraj movie deal would not pinch her 😛


then what is your opinion on shankar mahadevan ji competing against anwesha a 16 year old girl?in music ka maha muqabala if u have watched it.the above person to whom u replied is spamming the same post in all the threads,if u happen to see,u will know.
shashi sung in hindi movies,arpita too in bengali movies.
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Originally posted by: rths


then what is your opinion on shankar mahadevan ji competing against anwesha a 16 year old girl?in music ka maha muqabala if u have watched it.the above person to whom u replied is spamming the same post in all the threads,if u happen to see,u will know.
shashi sung in hindi movies,arpita too in bengali movies.



To answer your post, one needs to deal with two separate issues.... (1) the concept behind Music ka maha muqabala vs Indian Idol; and (2) other contestants having playback experience....

At the outset, let me clarify once more that I myself am not sure of the veracity behind whether Shreeram did indeed sing for more than 20 movies and that the above view holds only if it is true....

1. Regarding Music ka maha muqabala and Indian Idol, the very purpose of the two shows is different...the first is about teams with well-known singers competing against one another and one new face being in each team.....as for Idol, the purpose is to discover new solo singing talent....the two shows have nothing in common for me to compare at the very outset..... the joke I made that Sunidhi should also participate was said in irony.....its a pity that it was taken seriously.....

2. As for other participants having playback experience.....I feel the very spirit of the competition to find a fresh face gets diluted by allowing experienced singers to participate...this is my personal view...

but that having been said, I feel that someone who has sung for a couple of not so well known movies (the original impression I had about Shreeram) should be given a chance to prove his talent before the whole country.....I just feel that IF and only if what this person said about 20 movies is actually true, then the organizers are to blame for allowing professional singers (+20 movies would be considered professional I am sure by most) to participate.....


Finally, I have nothing against Shreeram as he is a good singer...my post is aimed at the organizers and the spirit of a competition aimed at discovering fresh talent......
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Originally posted by: Dookie77



To answer your post, one needs to deal with two separate issues.... (1) the concept behind Music ka maha muqabala vs Indian Idol; and (2) other contestants having playback experience....

At the outset, let me clarify once more that I myself am not sure of the veracity behind whether Shreeram did indeed sing for more than 20 movies and that the above view holds only if it is true....

1. Regarding Music ka maha muqabala and Indian Idol, the very purpose of the two shows is different...the first is about teams with well-known singers competing against one another and one new face being in each team.....as for Idol, the purpose is to discover new solo singing talent....the two shows have nothing in common for me to compare at the very outset..... the joke I made that Sunidhi should also participate was said in irony.....its a pity that it was taken seriously.....

2. As for other participants having playback experience.....I feel the very spirit of the competition to find a fresh face gets diluted by allowing experienced singers to participate...this is my personal view...

but that having been said, I feel that someone who has sung for a couple of not so well known movies (the original impression I had about Shreeram) should be given a chance to prove his talent before the whole country.....I just feel that IF and only if what this person said about 20 movies is actually true, then the organizers are to blame for allowing professional singers (+20 movies would be considered professional I am sure by most) to participate.....


Finally, I have nothing against Shreeram as he is a good singer...my post is aimed at the organizers and the spirit of a competition aimed at discovering fresh talent......


Firstly, if the format of Muqabla is different from Indian Idol, then it is also a fact that the format of Indian Idol does not prohibit people like Sreeram from participating !
Secondly, Sree ram has sung only in regional movies so far. Even in AP, he was fairly unknown before Idol. This shows that irrespective of the number of movies for which he may have sung, he is not an "established" singer. Much more so when it comes to a show like Idol, which is supposed to be a national competition. So even regionally established singers who are unknown at the national level can compete fairly. How many Telugu songs have you heard Sreeram singing in Idol? It is a level playing field.
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Originally posted by: rths


Firstly, if the format of Muqabla is different from Indian Idol, then it is also a fact that the format of Indian Idol does not prohibit people like Sreeram from participating !
Secondly, Sree ram has sung only in regional movies so far. Even in AP, he was fairly unknown before Idol. This shows that irrespective of the number of movies for which he may have sung, he is not an "established" singer. Much more so when it comes to a show like Idol, which is supposed to be a national competition. So even regionally established singers who are unknown at the national level can compete fairly. How many Telugu songs have you heard Sreeram singing in Idol? It is a level playing field.



1. First, I was only replying to you asking my opinion on how well known singers can compete with new singers on Music ka maha muqabala....I clarified that the two shows are competely different so there would be no reason for me to compare...if you yourself concede that the shows are different, then the question itself had no purpose.....

2. As for whether playback singers can participate, that is a very subjective question and no single person has the same opinion....for me, a person who has sung for a lot of movies (+20 is a lot of movies) and concerts and shows qualifies as a professional while someone who has just tried their hand at a couple of movies is not......you are entitled to have your opinion and I am entitled to have mine...I was merely expressing my view on that matter.....

3. From what I last gathered, AP was definitely in the Indian Subcontinent and a part of this country.....over the years, there are more than enough singers who have sung playback for hindi as well as regional cinema.....there have been playback singers from the south (who initially sang in south Indian cinema) who later went on to sing in hindi films as well without having to be noticed in reality shows....it is not about the fact someone has sung for a limited audience...it is about a person who has had a lot of playback experience competing against people with limited or no experience (no matter what the language).....then they might as well end the competition right now and hand him the contract and send the other contestants home.....Of course, I once again clarify that this view only and only if applies if the +20 films and concert experience statement is true)....


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Posted: 15 years ago
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Originally posted by: Dookie77



1. First, I was only replying to you asking my opinion on how well known singers can compete with new singers on Music ka maha muqabala....I clarified that the two shows are competely different so there would be no reason for me to compare...if you yourself concede that the shows are different, then the question itself had no purpose.....

2. As for whether playback singers can participate, that is a very subjective question and no single person has the same opinion....for me, a person who has sung for a lot of movies (+20 is a lot of movies) and concerts and shows qualifies as a professional while someone who has just tried their hand at a couple of movies is not......you are entitled to have your opinion and I am entitled to have mine...I was merely expressing my view on that matter.....

3. From what I last gathered, AP was definitely in the Indian Subcontinent and a part of this country.....over the years, there are more than enough singers who have sung playback for hindi as well as regional cinema.....there have been playback singers from the south (who initially sang in south Indian cinema) who later went on to sing in hindi films as well without having to be noticed in reality shows....it is not about the fact someone has sung for a limited audience...it is about a person who has had a lot of playback experience competing against people with limited or no experience (no matter what the language).....then they might as well end the competition right now and hand him the contract and send the other contestants home.....Of course, I once again clarify that this view only and only if applies if the +20 films and concert experience statement is true)....


[/It is an open book ,that he indeed sing in and around 20 movies,and performed 3 concerts,accompanying main singers.
Your perspective and mine are different,his concerts are mostly to gain exposure ,he accompanied some established personalities of the music industry from south as he was an upcoming singer from south.

Being a non hindi speaking person, he has been able to perform incredibly on this show.Instead of appreciating that ,unfortunately some minor or inavalid points are being highlighted.It would be better if people take a wholistic view of his performances instead of nitpicking.

It appears that the viewers seem to be more knowledgeable about the show rules than the organisers themselves!

I got to see people even objecting to him getting a break in a movie,while the show is on,and demanding him to withdraw from the show,as it is illegal.Salim ji should be knowing about this, whether it is with in the rules or not.

So ,lets agree to disagree.

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