Originally posted by: pari100
@rths
yahan sabki ek aadat hain...pehle yeh bol dete hain ki rakesh deserves to be in top 3 and then they start to criticize him...kisi ko uski smile se problem hain...kisi ko uski versatility se problem hain...kisi ko problem hain ki asha ji ne usko rafi saab se compare kar diya...aapne to apna doubt clear karne ke liye ek nayi thread hi bana dali...as usual uss thread mein reply karne vaale sirf sreeram ke fans hi the jo yahan par majority mein hain to hum log kuch kehte bhi hain to uska mazaak bana diya jaata hain...poochna hi hain to jaa ke asha ji se pooch lo...sreeram ke fans to kabhi maane ge nahin ki asha ji ne rakesh ki singing ko rafi saab se compare kiya...aur rakesh ke fans maante rahege....
aur aapne aaj ek nayi baat kar di ki qawalli round mein rakesh ka judges ko interrupt karna aapko pasand nahin aaya...judges ko koi problem nahin huyi to naa jaane aapko kyun bura laga...as usual aap baaton ko exagerrate kiya jaa raha hain...
rahi baat sunidhi ki...aap kehti hain ki jab sreeram buri performance deta hain to sunidhi kuch zyada bolti nahin...pehle to yeh batao sreeram ki kaun si performance khraab thi?...jab sunidhi khwaja mere khwaja aur kawa kawa jaise performances par ache comment deti hain to aap usse jhat se bhool jaate hain...sunidhi ne rakesh ke liye bhi one-liners use kiye hain...par woh aapko yaad nain rahege...sundihi ke face expression ko lekar bawaal khada kar diya jaata hain idhar...kya yeh sab editing ka kamaal ho sakta hain, bilkul ho sakta hain...jab hema malini zyada animated naa reh kar ke performances dekhti hain to yeh keh diya jaata hain ki woh music mein doob gayi...lekin jab sunidhi aisa karti hain to sreeram ke fans bolte hain ki woh sreeram ki performances enjoy nahin karti...kya ek singer jise music se itna lagaav hain woh music mein nahin kho sakti...aur agar aapko editing par bharosa nahin hain to asia bilkul nahin ki sunidhi sreeram ki performances enjoy nahin karti...kawa kawa, tu hi meri shab hain aur aaja aaja vaali performances dekho to aapko pata lag jayega sunidhi sreeram ki performances bhi enjoy karti hain...
aur aapne ek doosri thread mein ek comment likha jise pad kar mujhe bahut hi dukh huya...she has no classical background,hence her opinions doesnt matter to me.sreeram if not better in fame than her,but he is no less to her,his humility,willing to learn will take him long way.she is mass singer,we have to understand this by her type of songs leaving a few,but her forte is that where you only need feel nd not exactly the singing.my strong opinion
jab sunidhi ka opinion aapke liye matter nahin karta to phir aap kyun baar baar sunidhi ko beech mein kyun laate ho...sach to yeh hain ki opinion bilkul matter karta hain...bas aap log sreeram ke khilaf kuch bhi negative seh hi nahin sakte...agar aap yeh sochti hain ki sreeram sunidhi se kam nahin to main kya bolun...shayad aap jaanti hi nahin ki sunidhi ne bollywood industry mein kya kiya hain...aur apne comment ki last line padiye...'not exactly the singing'...to aap kehna chahti hain ki sunidhi ke gaano mein gayaki kam aur feel zyada hoti hain...yeh to koi baat nahin huyi...'kaisi paheli', 'beedi', 'dil mein jaagi' jaise gaane shayad sune hi nahin aapne...
fan hona ek baat hain...aur obsession ek aur cheez hain...aap obsession mein aa ke bahut hi galat cheeze likh rahe hain...maana ki aapka opinion hain par mere liye bahut hi zyada galat opinion hain...aur ek sacha sangeet premi meri baat ko theek kahega...
aapne kaha ki sreeram ko log gande gande naam le kar bulate hain...uske liye all i can say is 'taang ussi ki khichi jaati hain jo oonchai par ho...'
aap yeh bhi bolti hain ki log usse southy keh ke bulate hain aur baad mein aap khud hi kehti hain ki 'napa tula' vaala comment sunidhi ko thoda elaborate karna chahiye tha kyun ki sreeram south se hain to usse woh samajh nahin aaya hoga...😕
aur jab yeh thread rakesh ke appreciation mein bani hain to aapka yahan aayi kyun...iss se pehle to aap kabhi aayi nahin...uska ek simple reason hain ki jaspal ji ki baat aapko dil par lag gayi kyunki unhe ne sreeram ke fans ke khilaaf thoda bol diya...jaspal ji hamesha partial reh kar sach bolte hain...
har cheez ke do pehlo hote hain, sahi ya galat...aap sreeram ki singing mein sirf sahi pehlo par dhyaan deti hain...aur jab sunidhi sreeram ke liye comment karti hain to aap sirf galat pehlo ko dekhte ho...'kalyug ka shravan kumar' aapko shayad fun lagta hain...par hamare liye yeh ek compliment hain ek aise insaan jo apne maa baap ki kadar karta hain...jaise ki maine kaha ki sahi aur galat pehlo...agar yeh fun ya mazaak hota to kya rakesh bolta nahin indian idol vaalo ko ka yeh mazaak mujhe pasand nahin...
agar main bolun ki 'dakshin ka dhamaka' bhi ek mazaak hain to aap usse maane gi...
mujhe pata hain jo bi kuch maine upar likha hain aapko pasand nahin aayega...par agar jaspal ji ke ek comment se aapko dukh huya to socho hamein kaisa feel hota hoga jab baar baar rakesh ki versatility par sawaal lagaye jaate hain...ek hi baat ko kehne ke liye baar baar thread banaye jaate hain...aur yeh baatein MID nahin zyada tar sreeram ke fans hi bolte hain...
@pari
thank u for replying to my post for jaspal paaji,
first i didnt feel bad about what paaji is saying,infact paaji ne tho ek baar bhi sreeram khe khilaf nahi bhola
nd my response to him is because of that only.i dont comment to irrational arguments,even it is sree fan commenting badly,i dont support it.you have taken me very wrongly.kalyug kha srawan kumar bhi meine mazzak mein nahin kahatha,the channel is mocking him,south kha damaaka bhi mujhe accha nahi lagha tha.sorry my hindi is not very good.😆yes ,i agree you have done lot of research on my posts.i indeed told about sunidhi being not qualified nd trained singer.with experience in industry,she is what she is today.i respect her singing,i am classically trained a bit nd i know what is the dfference in sreeram nd rakesh.
rakesh ki baath sunidhi ,salim aur anu ji galath laghi,that is why salim put him in hsia place telling him since your parents are there ,you should have done more nicely,topic kho divert karne nahi diya salim ji ne.i am not at all exaggerating anything here ,that was only point i didnt like nd i said that.nd coming to clearing my doubt on aasha ji's opinion,i didnt put any heading stating only sreeram fans opinion matters,everyone could have given.
Rakesh bahut accha gaatha hai,nd i always have found him singing with passion.you can see my post in shivams thread where i humbly accepted to anonymous ji ,that shivam was awesome in his performances.yes,i am craziest fan of sreeram,i believe he will get his due,only by singing well,nd nothing else.u plz check every other forums how horribly they abuse sreeram,here u still find there is some constructive arguments happen.i never abused rakesh,show me one of mine cursing him,talking of his personal matters.yes we post sometimes what is shown on video.i think u go check in sreeram appreciation thread ,there is lot abuse posts on him ,nd they get banned later,but here i am not abusing him,i am only reacting positively to paaji saying we are all his supporters of rakesh too ,nd explaining him there are a hand ful of wrong people who talk bad nd they are there in both sides mind that,nd he shouldnt be taking it too seriously.becoz he is a nice soul, nd i reacted to him.😊
one more thing mujhe sunidhiji ki opinions matter nahi karthe,but for public who are voting unko tho karthe hai,so i am asking her to give proper advices,if he(sreeram) is not right in his singing. plz ,understand what u say when you are preaching me,you yourself have posted this topic nd took mine with a negative frame of mind.when I mentioned positive things about rakesh,you too have forgotten all of them conveniently ..aapko vo nahi dikhayi diya.so plz lets end it here.i wrote the previous mail to paaji,i will appreciate if he replies to me,whether positively or negatively.
To pull his leg jho aapka comment tha ,i am taking it in apositive way,bahut accha lagha,magar in some posts some real obessesive people even went to the extent of cursing him saying he should die,along with his fans.everyone should remember uski bhi maa hai,nd if she get to see such comments how pathetic she must be feeling.
southy bolke,usse paraya math karna that is what i intend to say to rakesh's fans ,nd my saying ,he is from south is he is not proficient in hindi,nd need to be given more clear advice than a statement ,so that he can correct himself.
AAP plz mere poore 400 posts kho research karke opinions dethe tho bahut accha hogha,naakhi one post.in that way u will realise - aap jald bhaaji karthi hai yaa mein exaggerate karthi hu.
as sreefan ,
i told earlier in his appreciation thread,that his lagi aaj sawan didnt click to me,i also told that his breathless was good but he neednt be praised too much because it could have been better nd i also accepted that his jaadu teri nazar was lacking feel that was required.this infact i wrote to sreeram himself for your information.😊
Edited by rths - 15 years ago