bug report. - Page 3

Originally posted by: mango.falooda

the only reason I can think is to try draw out sympathy for imlie and what a sad situation she is in. maybe that works for some viewers but for some, it will not. like ranijain pointed out, it just makes imlie look very inept and that she can't survive without aryan. it looks like imlie does not have what it takes to survive on her own and therefore, her words of 'girl power' is just words. not a good look for a female lead. 🤷

Originally posted by: anabh

Yes my concept of girl power and feminism is very practical so sometimes what I see is hard to accept or digest (which i had mentioned in earlier post with @handlerxsaviour)........

Education teaches you lot of things and also gives you confident to live in world. Imlie can be heartbroken, sober, more matured but doesnt mean her education and what she learnt in city is lost. But here she has only regressed to condition worse then what she was before her marriage to aaryan.

They only show her fighting, talking back or solving issues......her mannerism is now seen in cheeni which we can find cute in a kid (because child actor is very cute), but actually is borderline badtameez in reality.......as audience all we are asking makers to show Imlie growth curve......which means, her way of thinking, way to react to ppl, way she speaks or even carry herself. A fool speaks while a wise listens. Forget about wow clothes, simple change they could have shown is way she dresses up. The cost or brand of clothes are not important but dressing also has etiquettes, and one is suppose to dress according to place and situation. What is the use of dupatta around her neck if she uses it to tie around her waist. Rather give her loose kurtas without dupatta or pin cotton duppata on one side.

Anyways, i can go on and on but sometimes it makes sense to ignore elephant in the room for own sanity:)

my problem is that I find it difficult to ignore the elephants and my brain keeps short circuiting when I watch the drama. 🤣

like you, I lean towards practicality and so words are meaningless if there is no action behind it. there are so many contradictions -- if she is capable of fighting and solving social issues, why is she so depressed that she can't be practical and get another job that pays? is the economic condition bad that she can't get jobs? did she get into debt? isn't imlie always shown to be resourceful and quick at thinking on her feet? so why this inability to be financially sufficient? contradictions like that bursts the bubble where I connect with the drama.

for some of us who really used to enjoy the drama, that bubble bursting has been hard. we want to connect but instead of drawing us back, the writers are only writing more elephants and kicking us out of the room.

part of me keeps debating whether it is time to drop the show but I keep peeking back in after a gap. lets see.

Originally posted by: mango.falooda

my problem is that I find it difficult to ignore the elephants and my brain keeps short circuiting when I watch the drama. 🤣

like you, I lean towards practicality and so words are meaningless if there is no action behind it. there are so many contradictions -- if she is capable of fighting and solving social issues, why is she so depressed that she can't be practical and get another job that pays? is the economic condition bad that she can't get jobs? did she get into debt? isn't imlie always shown to be resourceful and quick at thinking on her feet? so why this inability to be financially sufficient? contradictions like that bursts the bubble where I connect with the drama.

for some of us who really used to enjoy the drama, that bubble bursting has been hard. we want to connect but instead of drawing us back, the writers are only writing more elephants and kicking us out of the room.

part of me keeps debating whether it is time to drop the show but I keep peeking back in after a gap. lets see.

You are cent% correct .......another difficulty i am having is to relate to aaryan who always considered imlie his world, and all of sudden he get so mad at Imlie for loosing their unborn child......seriously???for me child is not basis for a couple's relation but couple's relation is reason for child to be born.......true love for each other shouldnt falter under any circumstances......i tried to justify aaryan anger at time of loss, for imlie carelessness and not trusting aaryan with gudiya........but his unreasonable anger after 5 years, for crying over loss of unborn then loss of his world is hard to digest.....It is getting hard to connect to the show and I am tricking my mind to find an ok reason every week to stay connected......but imlie's self pity, aaryan unreasonable anger and the regressive villagers and the same bm/bd/ac marriage topic are making me irritated lately.......so not sure till when i will ride this wagon or may soon jump off......

Originally posted by: anabh

You are cent% correct .......another difficulty i am having is to relate to aaryan who always considered imlie his world, and all of sudden he get so mad at Imlie for loosing their unborn child......seriously???for me child is not basis for a couple's relation but couple's relation is reason for child to be born.......true love for each other shouldnt falter under any circumstances......i tried to justify aaryan anger at time of loss, for imlie carelessness and not trusting aaryan with gudiya........but his unreasonable anger after 5 years, for crying over loss of unborn then loss of his world is hard to digest.....It is getting hard to connect to the show and I am tricking my mind to find an ok reason every week to stay connected......but imlie's self pity, aaryan unreasonable anger and the regressive villagers and the same bm/bd/ac marriage topic are making me irritated lately.......so not sure till when i will ride this wagon or may soon jump off......

For me, the whole leap was badly planned and rushed. Their main idea seemed to be to make Imlie a pitiable, sacrificial character - the epitome of greatness, righteousness and virtue, But to me she just comes across as selfish, manipulative and frankly dumb. In fact, it is beginning to look like she never loved Aryan Singh Rathore and was only putting up with him because of what he had done for her. And the minute he gave the chance through his actions and words, she got away.

1) I know he chased her out and he was wrong for that. But his anger has some justification to it. I can understand Aryan not being able to overcome Cheeku's loss because he is unable to forget and close the chapter. Yes, he chased Imlie out and that's part of the reason why he cannot move on.

2) But what about Imlie? She might not have forgotten Cheeku, but how is she able to forgive herself so easily? It would have been more realistic if they showed her in self-recrimination. But she seems to wear her loss like a badge of honour. The lines she speaks like"I lost my everything to gain you..." (referring to Cheeni) give a hint that she takes it like she made a choice to lose everything and that is disturbing..Maybe the dialogues are poorly written. I dont know. But i would expect her to in some little part somewhere be in agony over Cheeku's loss and feel for Aryan that she lost his child. That would make more sense and make us root for her.

If they want us to see Cheeku's loss as having nothing to do with Imlie and Imlie being totally innocent, they must have framed it better. All mothers have a responsibility to their children, born or unborn. (Lets put aside the right to abort debate since Imlie clearly wanted Cheeku). But Imlie behaved rashly without any care for Cheeku when she decided to butt heads with Malini whom she knew was dangerous and vengeful. Going after Gudiya without any plan, jumping into the fire despite knowing that it was lit for her. Malini had told her she was going to destroy her,,Any person would be alerted and cautious. They would have spread their love across both children equally not just go for one.

And this is why when Aryan says, "All children must be saved, no matter whose children they are." He is mocking Imlie that she thought he would not save AKT's child. But actually, i would think it is more apt for Imlie to exercise some self-love and respect and show that for the child in her womb too. Sometimes, they show Imlie as the all sacrificial Mother Goddess incarnation which is just soo irritating because Imlie's actions are in fact just the opposite. She makes choices on whom to shower her attention on and then gives it her all, forgetting the others. Even when she was with the Tripathis, she seemed to be so intent on making life better for the Tripathis, that she forgot her own mother. Has she ever been shown as doing something for her mother?

3) Now she is latching on to Cheeni saying Cheeni is all that is left and bringing her up by her principles of truth and fearlessness. Ever heard of things like

- know thy enemy

- self-respect

- progress (Imlie is supposed to be intelligent and yet she cant do anything to secure a more secure financial future for herself, then what business does she have taking a kid)

- planning (u know people actually step back and plan once they know there is an enemy out for them, not jump head long)

4) Finally her attitude towards ASR is just plain irritating and smacks of hypocrisy and ego. They only show glimpses of her love for him. I would have preferred if they had shown some sense of guilt towards him that she lost his baby. Then if they show him as rude and her as walking away quietly because she feels guilty and cannot forgive herself, audience would be more connected with her. Perhaps, then I would be better able to see her as Malini's victim.

Right now, all I see is an Imlie who is responsible for her own mess, and who has yet to claim responsibility for it. A woman who acted in full ego and thus lost her child needlessly, failed to see its impact on the father and has merely moved on because she is strong enough to and is able to forgive herself (I know she did not mean it but she is partly culpable she keeps repeating it is an accident with so much conviction it is irrittating).

I mean she cried so much when she thought her babusaheb was dead. She bent over backwards for the Tripathis, for her babusaheb. She felt so dearly for Malini and now, for Aryan Singh Rathore, the man who helped her back on her feet, u cant understand where is his pain and rudeness coming from..., u tell him it was an accident and u expect him to brush it off, 50-50 hate...r u kidding me, girl?

This story is so unrelatable. The title character is near hateable. They have like made Imlie into Virat 2.0. In fact, i stopped watching Ghum but saw the latest episode ... it looks like Virat will save Pakhi from jail and thus Sai will leave with or without the child. I can root for Sai but I cannot root for Imlie at all.

I really dont think he hates her over the loss of the child. He hates her lack of responsibility which led to the loss of the child. Even then, she was only blaming him, that he failed to keep Gudiya safe, never herself. It is that failure on her part to recognize his loss and her part in it that is making him mad. She does have a part to play in the miscarriage. She could have been more careful walking up the steps. That ball was right in front. Pregnant women are usually very careful when walking up and down steps.

I think this is just a poorly written scene..if they wanted us to pity Imlie, her miscarriage must have happened like Sai's...then her justification would be acceptable. Or if they truly wanted to make Imlie the all goody saviour, make her lose the baby in the Miss Universe fiasco...then all is gd...everyone will root only for Imlie.

Frankly thats what they should have done:

1) Make Imlie go away after showing Miss Universe's true face

2) Disappear from the scene and raise Cheeku

3) Then if you want to show is Sorry Singh Rathore, audience can accept

But you want me to empathise with an Imlie who is holding on to a baby that is not hers, raised under abject poverty despite the facts that her paternal family is still around and her foster mother is a scholar.

Originally posted by: MsFaj

I really dont think he hates her over the loss of the child. He hates her lack of responsibility which led to the loss of the child. Even then, she was only blaming him, that he failed to keep Gudiya safe, never herself. It is that failure on her part to recognize his loss and her part in it that is making him mad. She does have a part to play in the miscarriage. She could have been more careful walking up the steps. That ball was right in front. Pregnant women are usually very careful when walking up and down steps.

I think this is just a poorly written scene..if they wanted us to pity Imlie, her miscarriage must have happened like Sai's...then her justification would be acceptable. Or if they truly wanted to make Imlie the all goody saviour, make her lose the baby in the Miss Universe fiasco...then all is gd...everyone will root only for Imlie.

Frankly thats what they should have done:

1) Make Imlie go away after showing Miss Universe's true face

2) Disappear from the scene and raise Cheeku

3) Then if you want to show is Sorry Singh Rathore, audience can accept

But you want me to empathise with an Imlie who is holding on to a baby that is not hers, raised under abject poverty despite the facts that her paternal family is still around and her foster mother is a scholar.

That is why I have found it difficult to have sympathy for Imlie when she has yet to realize that her carelessness did eventually lead to the miscarriage. She completely put the blame on Aryan for her miscarriage and I was just stumped then. Like how is she blaming Aryan wth. Aryan shouldn't have said a lot of stuff he said but he wasn't wrong completely. Everyone in the fd just turned on Aryan in the miscarriage and seperation fiasco.

Agreed, I did not understand the backlash for Aryan from the fandom. They kept harping over the fact that he asked his wife who had just miscarried to leave and failed to look at the enormity of what Imlie had done.

Anyway for me, this was the point of bye bye for me. I dont know maybe its my dirty narrow mind but Imlie not caring for Aryan's child and showering so much of love for AKT's child, just brings up thoughts. Too many loopholes:

1) They cant get away with saying this was a poor helpless child. She has an entire family and if they are too lazy to explain that loophole, they cant expect viewers to buy their horrendous storytelling. So, Malini had a case against the Tripathis and Imlie just takes the baby and never bothers to contact them? And since Malini thinks that it is a case of good riddance to bad rubbish, all is well?

2) For a woman who was so hung up on relationships, and gave herself up to save her relationships when it came to the Tripathis, why was it so easy for her to hate Aryan over one argument? After showing so much care for AKT's child, praying for the child, asking SitaMaiyya for the child, why did she never pray for Cheeku?

3) And most importantly, why is she able to forgive herself so easily and keep repeating that it was an accident? That is very unnatural. Even if women lose their child without any fault of theirs, there will always be a period of self-blame (a what if I had not done that moment). Here, I hardly see her grieving for Cheeku. And the way she tried to pin the blame on Aryan..i really was like ...what the...?

4) Even worse, like I said, is the fact that Imlie keeps repeating that she lost everything to gain Cheeni. Like Lady, r u trying tell me, you made a willing bargain, Cheeku and Aryan in exchange for Gudiya? The way she says it just sounds so uugghhh. To me, its pukeworthy.

4) Now they are shoving Cheeni down our throats and expecting us to like the kid. To me she is a classic cuckoo. Her parents dumped her in another nest, she killed the original nestling and took the place. I know she is not at fault but Cheeku's death was heart-wrenching. And Imlie's hand in it due to her obsession with Gudiya, makes it very difficult to swallow.

Hence, there is only one character who I sympathize with - Aryan Singh Rathore, the father who lost his child. Hence, I cannot watch this story of the great Imlie who has selflessly taken her ex's kid as her own and is bringing her up as a single mother against all odds. It just does not wash.