Thank you CVs for starting the realisation phase first with Aryan.😊 - Page 3

Originally posted by: MrinalR

Yeah I have heard that Gaya has spoken about it first. But that time I was not much active due to work I guess. I knew people talking about but didn't really get the chance to go through. I think when Narmada said about Shiv-Shakti that time also this topic was discussed again right?

Bold - I am not sure about it, as I wasn't active here last week and haven't gone through any thread, unless I was tagged

Originally posted by: Enlightened21

Bold - I am not sure about it, as I wasn't active here last week and haven't gone through any thread, unless I was tagged

I guess it has anyway I will go through what you have shared and come back

Originally posted by: Enlightened21

Mrinal....go through the below TT threads to know about the Shiv-Sati & Shiv-Parvathi parallels drawn with preleap & postleap Arylie respectively. It's Gayu who spoke about it first in our forum, even before the below thread was made.

https://twitter.com/Justrandomthi19/status/1549947602933653504?s=20&t=WwqiC8SeLxLUAIP0WR8xUQ

I have just gone through the TT and yes I remember vaguely reading gaya's post I guess and indeed it's just the way it seems to he or rather it has to be that way. That will justify those pandits and narmada saying them shiv shakti.

They have reacted that way too. Exactly how Malini knew Imlie in and out and played her. Yes she was overwhelmed just like Sati was. I would go further and say here Imlie's pregnancy hormones must have played a role too I mean as she was carrying a child herself the mamata part will be extra in her case because she could connect. But yes now the way they are showing the changes in Aryan and Imlie yes this all fits. But again Imlie has long way to go so also Aryan

Originally posted by: MrinalR

I have just gone through the TT and yes I remember vaguely reading gaya's post I guess and indeed it's just the way it seems to he or rather it has to be that way. That will justify those pandits and narmada saying them shiv shakti.

They have reacted that way too. Exactly how Malini knew Imlie in and out and played her. Yes she was overwhelmed just like Sati was. I would go further and say here Imlie's pregnancy hormones must have played a role too I mean as she was carrying a child herself the mamata part will be extra in her case because she could connect. But yes now the way they are showing the changes in Aryan and Imlie yes this all fits.

Bold - Wow Mrinal... that's a wonderful point I haven't come across in any discussions here or in TT on why Imlie was going crazy with her Mamta. Having gone through the pregnancy phase, even I too didn't think of this angle before crucifying her for her OTT behaviour. I think most of us were focused on Gudiya being AKT's child being used as the plotline that we missed this point. Thank you for bringing this up, so that I can now feel more for Imlie. 😔

Originally posted by: Enlightened21

Bold - Wow Mrinal... that's a wonderful point I haven't come across in any discussions here or in TT on why Imlie was going crazy with her Mamta. Having gone through the pregnancy phase, even I too didn't think of this angle before crucifying her for her OTT behaviour. I think most of us were focused on Gudiya being AKT's child being used as the plotline that we missed this point. Thank you for bringing this up, so that I can now feel more for Imlie. 😔

Frankly speaking this has occurred to me after I saw Imlie falling from the stairs. I have miscarried my child too so I could connect with her. But I was too furious with her because she was not listening to Aryan in previous episodes and then when I actually saw that fall I was like how can you forget about her hormones she must have felt things in extreme. That too when she was first told she was infertile than her husband believed he was not the father of the child so all that mamta has amplified and after looking at poor gudiya where she is feeling that the girl will have unwanted life Imlie's emotions must have gone out of hand.

Originally posted by: Enlightened21

For Aryan to understand that it's not because Gudiya was AKT's child that Imlie was fighting Gudiya and for the insensitiveness he showed in the last track when Imlie voiced out how the word Najayaz triggered her past, ( here are you referring to the previous track where he refused to believe Cheeku is his biological child? Meaning she's carrying that rejection especially it just happened? It was raw five years ago and possible. He asked for forgiveness and she really did but it would have opened the old wound) has to see it in front of his eyes what Meetti & Imlie had to suffer during her childhood and he will witness it through Imlie & Cheeni's story when he reaches PD post leap. He himself will jump into defending them and only after that he will come to know Cheeni is Gudiya, so that he will realise Imlie too was just doing the same thing when she was fighting to save Gudiya from Malini. Only then he will realise that he was wrong in bringing up AKT's name in today's fight. And once he realise, I want to see him whacking some sense into Imlie on how she is robbing Cheeni of her childhood by using her as an accomplice in her sting operations, as if she didn't get a grown up person from her village to do the same.(someone really needs to do that. Few things she's wrong in raising the way she's raising Cheeni, one taking phone to school cheeky, exposing her to unwanted events)

https://twitter.com/i/status/1553934663139344385

When I had posted the italicized lines in a thread I made 2weeks back, I never expected to see it portrayed beautifully as shown in the above scene today - especially that part of Aryan witnessing a mini version of Imlie's past which reminded him Imlie's painful words that had roots from her past and the reference of a child's bachpan being valuable than a toy (I love Aryan's flashback something on the line of I" have been stained". I do understand where Imilie's insecurities are coming from but I don't see the connection with Gudiya till she was found abandoned) . And I am happy for it because, though both Aryan & Imlie are equally responsible for separation, I wanted Aryan to be the first to realise his contribution in it and go guilty, for 3reasons. First reason is, even after their fight Imlie kept aside her hurt/ego and tried to calm him down twice - first by tending to his wounds and second time with her goodbye kiss. Both times he not only didn't heed to her silent plea; but instead put his ego & hurt first. Imlie on the other hand, even after his hurting words parted with a goodbye kiss, which I believe no girl with self respect would have gone for it. Second reason is, after all the claims of loving and protecting her, his insensitiveness in not ensuring how an emotional and physically vulnerable girl was surviving post separation. Him not knowing about her whereabouts all these 5years is something I am finding it very difficult to digest. 😠 So, for these 2 main reasons I am now eagerly rooting for a Sorry Singh Rathore first. To add to it, the third reason is what I have mentioned in the bolded lines above. Last time when Imlie mentioned how the society will be pointing fingers at her for various reasons, CVs went for a superficial treatment of her wounds, by giving big bhashans through ASR, without understanding such insecurities/fears in real life can't just be erased in a second. So I am glad that CVs are highlighting it again, and though Aryan is not responsible for Imlie's choice to not use her experiences to find a new job in city and provide a better environment to Cheeni, Aryan requiring to know the reason behind her various behaviours/insecurities is important, especially if they are going to be the endgame. And above all, being a selfish viewer I am eagerly waiting to watch how Fahmaan is going to perform that highly emotional breakdown of Aryan once he comes to know that Aryan did what AKT couldn't do to Imlie - to break her down completely and turn her into a lifeless soul, who is just living for the sake of Meethi & Cheeni. So, thank you CVs for taking it slow and starting the realisation phase with Aryan.

The same reasons are applicable on why I am fine with Imlie settling down in PD. Because, now she's being shown as a human being who feels guilty of some of her actions and falls weak & vulnerable some times. Without which Arylie's story can't be taken forward. Plus, the story from the beginning was always about city dwellers Vs village dwellers, which is clearly shown on the montage updated even after Arylie's marriage and clearly explained in the below thread. A reason why Imlie was never given a complete makeover even after becoming a Rathore. So, Imlie settling down in city post leap was never in the agenda, especially when the separation was to serve the purpose of reboot.

https://twitter.com/MirunaRavii/status/1539453884103524353?s=20&t=oCq-Izk1gYD2pz19N0-TtQ

Imlie's breakdown too I want to watch and I am happy that she is currently being shown to be guilty about not being a good mother to Cheeku. Yet, that's not enough to make her realise how she wronged Aryan and what led to Aryan's uncontrollable outburst that unfortunate day. But CVs....as you like to keep Imlie forget about her Mom & career once she reaches Delhi and put her on a mission every other day, I don't expect any sort of realisation ever happening with Imlie. Hence, I have imagined my own version about her breakdown & realisation, which according to me will happen by the end of this track as she sees with her own eyes Aryan almost embracing his long lost friend, MAUT, in an NDE. Because, only then she will realise the depth & intensity of why Aryan always had the fear of loosing a dear one. Cheeku's loss hasn't served that purpose with her yet, because, before she could mourn the loss of Cheeku she was served with another shock by Aryan which made her totally numb and the same day itself SitaMayya entrusted her with Cheeni, who somewhat served as a substitute to her losses. So, unless she witnesses a similar situation which Aryan faced 3 times in his life that too in a span of 8years, Imlie will never realise how she went wrong while taking Aryan's fears lightly. With that imagination I have now learned to keep my expectations on Imlie's new innings in Delhi low-key.

Green ones are something I really don't understand.

I also find it difficult to digest that Aryan didn't look for Imilie's whereabouts or safety. I am sure in one of his guilt outburst he will address that.

In marriage it's really helpful to truly understand ones insecurities and where it's stemming from. And Aryan is someone who was ready to take her with all her baggage.

However and whatever happened before leap it's heartbreaking to see Imilie being lifeless. I wonder if Aryan got a little inkling wr to Imilie's state in today's episode. What he adored before marriage about Imilie is broken unintentionally by him. FK will nail it.

Didn't Aryan had NDE atleast twice of course before marriage and one before confession?

As far as I've seen, Imilie's cooping mechanism is to just move on from issues rather than facing them/feeling them. I mean to say she supress and doesn't deal with them nor reflect on it. (Maybe that's why she's taking Aryan's feeling lightly?) Due to her childhood events she's been accepting all the taunts and abuses and move on. But I feel this time around she is finding it hard to move on keeping things aside. At the same time she isn't reflecting on what had contributed instead she's more into what happened in that specific day. It's natural for someone to be stuck there. The thing is what was said in that unfortunate night would have played in their mind repeatedly god knows how many times. There comes a point they start to believe the same. From yesterday's dream sequence that's what I get from Imilie's POV but she hasn't really introspected on the meaning of those words. That is a worst thing for a mother to feel everyday, all the time , to think that she couldn't safeguard her child and she's the reason the child is no more, especially while the child is within you and not a separate part of you. The feeling of ifs and buts. That's why words have power. Similarly what was said in her childhood would have become her truth refering to Aryan's flashback. This girl has really gone through so much and there isn't an outside support system to pull her out.

It would be interesting to see Malini's reaction knowing her daughter is from village, especially with the hatred she has for villagers now. I am not sure of a redumption for Malini anymore but Iif so if Malini could witness the effect of being illigtimate child and really feel it through her child's pain once she forms an attachment to the child? Knowing her own child possess more of Imilie's traits and live her to the core.

Imilie refusing to tell the truth about Cheeni could backfire later in the episodes. Again she's making assumptions and concealing a truth could backfire.

Originally posted by: MrinalR

Frankly speaking this has occurred to me after I saw Imlie falling from the stairs. I have miscarried my child too so I could connect with her. But I was too furious with her because she was not listening to Aryan in previous episodes and then when I actually saw that fall I was like how can you forget about her hormones she must have felt things in extreme. That too when she was first told she was infertile than her husband believed he was not the father of the child so all that mamta has amplified and after looking at poor gudiya where she is feeling that the girl will have unwanted life Imlie's emotions must have gone out of hand.

Mrinal ... don't do this. I don't want to turn into a completely biased Imlie supporter, as with some of my posts I am already feeling that I am being too harsh on Aryan nowadays. Isaliye aage math bado, pleassse...🥺

Thank you Mrinal,

I thought of it after the miscarriage but only through yesterday's dream sequence I started to feel this way. The previous track was maybe meant to connect this way. She went through quite a lot in short span also she was dealing with orphanages too.

Originally posted by: Enlightened21

Mrinal ... don't do this. I don't want to turn into a completely biased Imlie supporter, as with some of my posts I am already feeling that I am being too harsh on Aryan nowadays. Isaliye aage math bado, pleassse...🥺

Oh sorry sorry I am stopping

Originally posted by: Harani

Thank you Mrinal,

I thought of it after the miscarriage but only through yesterday's dream sequence I started to feel this way. The previous track was maybe meant to connect this way. She went through quite a lot in short span also she was dealing with orphanages too.

My pleasure

Yes. I admit I was also harsh on her but for less time. Now I know how to think on either side. I know how to weigh both of them so as I always say they are 50-50