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Posted: 3 years ago
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Originally posted by: Enlightened21

Read all the replies you posted in my threads. Addressing the most common complaint you mentioned in all 3posts, i.e., Cheeni's role, I am fine with it for 3 reasons - firstly because if it was Cheeku, the story would have gone on a different tangent and the fandom would have a permanent split with Imlie fans supporting her decision to hide Cheeku from his/her father and Aryan's fans brutally crucifying her for being a heartless mother keeping his child away from him. I have experienced it already with another show and didn't want this show to go that way. Secondly because, children how much ever they speak in a grown-up tone the audience will accept them, especially the kid section among the audience & grandparents who miss their grandkids, will not let the channel to be changed even for a second which is a way to increase the rating by the channel. I have experienced it recently with one of my regional shows. There was this 4-5yr old kid who was effortlessly playing her role but with heavy dialogs reprimanding her father & scenes to the extent of she going and making lemon juice for her mom who was sick. Till her dialogues I was fine. This juice part made me go 🤦🏻‍♀️, while my MIL found it cute like all her antics. Then now they replaced her with a new child artist whose acting looks dull and mother-daughter scenes no more look interesting. So, what I meant to say is that TRP audience, are fine with anything if it entertains them and let them have a good time-pass. It's the online audience like us who always looks for logic. Thirdly, since they have brought Malini back, Cheeni had to be introduced to deal with the karma part that's to be served in due time to Malini. And I am glad that CVs have given a Sita Mayya twist to it and my feeling is that Cheeni's role will be as of that messenger sent by Sita Mayya to make everything fine in Imlie's life. Since I am more of a spiritual person, I am liking Cheeni being presented in that angle. So, in short I am completely fine with Cheeni being brought between the 2 Ghonchus. 😆

Now coming to why I want Aryan to realise his fault first is again because of 3reasons as explained below:

Firstly because he is the one who made tall claims about Imlie starting with her professional life to AKT and her personal life to Jyo & Arpita. Promises they both have made to each other. But, as far as I remember, mein ye karunga vo karunga type claims to himself & others w.r.to Imlie only he had made. So, if not that day, week or month, atleast after few months he could have checked with Meethi whether she was fine or not. He owed it for the claims he used to make about her.

Secondly, telling your wife to leave you when she was at her most vulnerable state & needed him the most, and keeping your ego above everything, even when she tried for reconciliation twice before leaving, is not a sign of a good partner at all. Leave at all the partner side; a stranger would be more caring than this. No wonder why his sister and Mom are on Imlie's side even after seeing him in pain all these 5years. Aryan is answerable for this part especially because, he was the one who had gone to the extent of not taking her consent before announcing the real marriage in front of the Ts, claiming it to be his way of protecting her from self-destruction while the truth was it was his possessiveness to keep her away from AKT. As Imlie said, she hadn't invite him to save her from the pit; it was his sole decision to do so. So, he lost it at the point where he let his ego win and made all his promises & claims looks hollow. Yes, the fact that Aryan never even for once checked even with Meeti, about Imlie's wellbeing in these 5years is making me regret that I once felt that he loved Imlie selflessly. In a husband-wife relationship, there's nothing like hisaab barabar & all. When one is furious the other one has to automatically calm down. When one is weak the other has to be strong. That's where Aryan and Imlie lost it when they started blaming each other and erupted like a volcano on each other. At the end of the fight Imlie was shocked to hear the word 'then bloody leave' from Aryan; yet she didn't take it to heart until he told her on face 'Aaj ke baad jab bhi tumaare haath mere haath me aayega vo mujhe ye hi yaad dilayega ki tumaari laaparvahi ki vajay se, tumari impulsive nature ki vajay se mera baby ab iss duniya mein nahin rahe'. For us viewers, Aryan telling her to leave in his rage and he blurting out these words out of pain is understood. Even his mera bacha mera bacha jaap which he is blurting out even now after 5years, though it sounds irritable to us mothers, can be understood, considering how he was attached to Cheeku even when he believed that he/she was not his baby. But what he said after that, is not at all acceptable & that's where Aryan lost it and why he has to realise it first. Leave the self respect part; no girl who loves her partner will stay after hearing from her partner that seeing her and touching her will daily remind him of his loss & pain. She then has only two options - either stay with him cursing herself daily for the burden she's being on him or leave him for good. First one is what happens among many couples who stay together for their kids and in the long run some might have a happy married life as both partners get matured & good understanding in their thoughts while some might be living a suffocated life till one or both of them passes away. I know both type of couples in real life. Here in Arylie's case, Imlie didn't leave immediately after he told her to leave. In their last scene it's shown that Imlie got the potli from Arpita only after seeing that neither his family's persuasions worked and then later finally walked out when she understood that even her kiss which she expected to bring some calmness in him didn't work. Don't think that this all happens to show Imlie mahaan. Not at all. Just go through the below tweet by a person who went through a similar experience and you will understand why I am on Imlie's side for the efforts she took till the last moment to stay & why I hold Aryan responsible for being a ghonchu here.

https://twitter.com/VijeeLak/status/1549219675615236097?s=20&t=ret_iMxdMrBsphTD1oeTvQ

Thirdly, as a viewer, I can use the excuse of CVs not showing us Imlie's pain as a reason to not feel connected to Imlie. But, as a character Aryan can never use that excuse for not checking about her in these 5years, as he is the one who claimed to know her in & out, couldn't stand her silence and the first one to fall in love. I do connect to Aryan's pain & struggle more than Imlie's and am more sympathetic towards him for the fact that he was extremely lonely & aimless all these years. Infact his longing to embrace death do keep pricking my heart whenever I watch his introductory scene postleap and the reason why I want Imlie to witness something close to it, so that she realises where she had wronged him. 😢 But, that doesn't mean Aryan is an infallible person that needs to be kept on a pedestal. Instead I would prefer to see him as a Sorry Singh Rathore because that just raises his position one more level in my eyes.

Hope you understood faloodaji why & where Aryan is wrong for me and even after this explanations, if you feel that he is not answerable for anything that led to separation, then let's agree to disagree, as in this matter our perspectives are differing probably because of our concepts of love, partnership & all. 😊


Once again we are back to our essay writing days. 🤣

Harani.... forgot to tag you in this reply of mine to Faloodaji. I hope it would give more clarity to some of the points I wrote in the title post.


Didn't Aryan had NDE atleast twice of course before marriage and one before confession?

Now coming to this question, I am not sure whether Aryan was more than a partner or protector at both these point of time. She did behave like a lover at both these times. But, just like how Imlie's falling in love phase was never highlighted in previous episodes, I feel that another NDE might be brought in by the CVs to have a clarity on this. I have another theory in mind which infact is not a NDE of the body, but of his soul. But will not share it here as it can spread negative vibes. 😊

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Posted: 3 years ago
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Originally posted by: MrinalR

Oh sorry sorry I am stopping

No need to say sorry Mrinal. I enjoyed our chat sessions today, especially as it gave me a new perspective to think about. Hope we shall continue this with the coming episodes. Bye for now, as it is time for me to log out. 🤗

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Posted: 3 years ago
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Originally posted by: Enlightened21

No need to say sorry Mrinal. I enjoyed our chat sessions today, especially as it gave me a new perspective to think about. Hope we shall continue this with the coming episodes. Bye for now, as it is time for me to log out. 🤗

Sure indeed it was good talking to you to a healthy talk. We will definitely continue in following episodes bye 🤗

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Posted: 3 years ago
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Originally posted by: Enlightened21

Mrinal....go through the below TT threads to know about the Shiv-Sati & Shiv-Parvathi parallels drawn with preleap & postleap Arylie respectively. It's Gayu who spoke about it first in our forum, even before the below thread was made.

https://twitter.com/Justrandomthi19/status/1549947602933653504?s=20&t=WwqiC8SeLxLUAIP0WR8xUQ

Glad to know your sister doing well and good 😊

Regarding shiv-parvathi, the Milan we saw as dream was exact Milan of shiv-parvathi. Imlie ( who was sati before with impulsive, carelessness nature) phase was over. Now she is tone down a lot especially on her impulsive, whether she will reboot herself as Parvati?? That we need to wait and see because Parvati already blame herself as guilty and accept every mistakes that's why she will change and prepare herself to be his wife on best way. She will go dead end to win his love and trust again.

Here both imlie and Aryan are wrong at first place and they're very adamant with ego so they need to realize the mistakes, accept and reconcile. Imlie growth or change on her character will reflect how she going to handle BM, BD, Anu and Malini. We already know where Aryan went wrong and he will come along soon, what would be the efforts from imlie?? Will she realize Aryan turmoil?? We need to wait and see. As of now imlie isn't Parvati maybe on the future.

Edited by gaya84 - 3 years ago
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Posted: 3 years ago
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Originally posted by: gaya84

Glad to know your sister doing well and good 😊

Regarding shiv-parvathi, the Milan we saw as dream was exact Milan of shiv-parvathi. Imlie ( who was sati before with impulsive, carelessness nature) phase was over. Now she is tone down a lot especially on her impulsive, whether she will reboot herself as Parvati?? That we need to wait and see because Parvati already blame herself as guilty and accept every mistakes that's why she will change and prepare herself to be his wife on best way. She will go dead end to win his love and trust again.

Here both imlie and Aryan are wrong at first place and they're very adamant with ego so they need to realize the mistakes, accept and reconcile. Imlie growth or change on her character will reflect how she going to handle BM, BD, Anu and Malini. We already know where Aryan went wrong and he will come along soon, what would be the efforts from imlie?? Will she realize Aryan turmoil?? We need to wait and see. As of now imlie isn't Parvati maybe on the future.

It is true and TBH Parvati path is right for Imlie but here there are other factors and people too as you mentioned so as you said we will just wait and see how things turn out. Even if we think Ideally what Imlie should do is never the case with Imlie. So what we should do is just wait

Edited by MrinalR - 3 years ago
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Posted: 3 years ago
#36

I love the way you have written it out. When there's a problem in a couple's life, both would have played part in it. It's just they are two different individuals with different values, thought, opinion, principal etc. I felt how they showed the clash before the leap was well thought. Both are wrong and right in their own way.


A miscarriage/a child's death is a huge thing in a couple's life. If a couple can stand through it then they come stronger. I am saying this with my personal experience of having multiple miscarriages at different stages. One of those was children born alive and let to die. Was one of the hardest part of our life. Seems like both Aryan and Imilie are taking it that way. For couple who goes through miscarriage is not just a miscarriage, it's their baby for them because they start to live with the child in their dream. It's quite real for them. A divorce shouldn't happen untill , unless you've tried everything possible to keep the relationship.(. Here I am not talking about abusive relationship, it's relationship which has love, care in it). Imilie had tried hard and she was right to walk off for the better of both. It would have been painful for both.


I felt both their pain has been written well so far. I felt it's raw and real. A mother who goes through miscarriage do feel that she failed to protect her child, especially while the child is within her and do feel her body failed. I felt that pain in yesterday's dream sequence. If I have understood correctly, she is still haunted and feeling guilty of failing to protect the child. Maybe that could be one reasonCheeni doesn't call her mother. Up until now I felt Cheeku is her only child in Imilie's mind.


Blame game in a miscarriage is definitely a recipe for separation. I don't think I could have held on had I been blamed by husband. Of course the world does in their cruel way.


Comparing to itv level I am really pleased with the way CVs are exploring the raw feelings.

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