Why Cheeku's loss, separation & Gudiya being alive was needed? - Page 3

Originally posted by: Param-Sundari

See if they lost to BL why would they make their plot similar to BL to fight it?

Alag rakhenge na viewers ko attract karne?

That's how a normal human will think na Sundariji, not the weirdly-wired brain owner Channel CVs.

Par dekha jaye toh baat sahi hai, BL slot leader tab hi bana hai when they picked up the track to expose the vamp and unite the leads as per what I have heard from forum wasis.

That is reassuring😆

Originally posted by: wasra

That's how a normal human will think na Sundariji, not the weirdly-wired brain owner Channel CVs.

Par dekha jaye toh baat sahi hai, BL slot leader tab hi bana hai when they picked up the track to expose the vamp and unite the leads as per what I have heard from forum wasis.

That is reassuring😆

2-3 week ki trp aur dekhni padegi, it's very dubious rn

Originally posted by: Km181

Now that Arylie marriage is broken it made me think how can this marriage would have even survived because Imlie married only for T family. Then I try to recall she did such a big sacrifice for T family by marrying Aryan. Did she made any such attempts for R family? None I could think of - Purandas track was for AKT because she always believed AKT was not responsible ( sorry, I don't believe then or now that she did it for Aryan), Surpita wedding was more for Bandar her friend, Jo track was about proving cheeku as legitimate child. Yes, she ran to arrange blood for Aryan but that obsession which I saw in her for T family was missing for me for R family. They way she would cook and bring everyone on table in T family was also missing in R family. If T family she stayed as maid, R family she stayed as guest. I never saw a DIL to be honest.

If we see it from Aryan's or the Rathore's perspective, this is how it will look like. But, if we see it from a different perspective that Imlie behaves like this with everyone in need, then we will be able to understand her better. Quoting below a part of what Khushi (Wasra) had mentioned in her thread about Imlie.

this girl despite being injured, tired went into a Dhaba's kitchen just to cook for Aryan bcz he was throwing a tantrum for hygeine, u think any girl would give a damn about a grownup guy throwing tantrum until she is not having feelings for him? The most important of all she went and did tandav infront of god look at the determination on her face than it's like she was challenging the gods to return what was hers back to her. Our girl, keeping aside her self-respect fell at Harry's feet, to help her search for her ABP yaar how come people still not see the depth of love she has for Aryan.

Originally posted by: Enlightened21

If we see it from Aryan's or the Rathore's perspective, this is how it will look like. But, if we see it from a different perspective that Imlie behaves like this with everyone in need, then we will be able to understand her better. Quoting below a part of what Khushi (Wasra) had mentioned in her thread about Imlie.

this girl despite being injured, tired went into a Dhaba's kitchen just to cook for Aryan bcz he was throwing a tantrum for hygeine, u think any girl would give a damn about a grownup guy throwing tantrum until she is not having feelings for him? The most important of all she went and did tandav infront of god look at the determination on her face than it's like she was challenging the gods to return what was hers back to her. Our girl, keeping aside her self-respect fell at Harry's feet, to help her search for her ABP yaar how come people still not see the depth of love she has for Aryan.

Yaar CV confuse us.. I remember that dhaba and her cooking scene so well but I can't forget how she cooked for AKT and didn't eat when akt refused her food. AKT obviously had no issues in eating from dhaba then why does she need to cook for him.

Tandav was during life- death questions which is understandable like I can understand her today running the stairs to catch baby but the obsession all these days I can't. She should have kept distance well Malini intentions. Dont say mausi feeling, she did PF of her didi forced her to be alone for T family. Sorry, she is not good sister either, during PF did she forgot that her niece/nephew will grow without father. Why did she separate adilie then?

Harry and Jo track, again when life is in danger I can understand but otherwise it was about proving cheeku as legitimate..thats it, where again she didn't look after cheeku well it was Aryan asking her to eat well..

As I said, Imlie has been shown this way to me so I can't connect..

Originally posted by: Km181

Thanks for sharing this. Initially I thought I was outlier who believe Aryan was right in bringing AKT. Because, I too feel the same have seen Imlie's obsession for T family. Read entire thread on tt, author has perfectly stated the same...

No wonder I can never ever connect with Imlie, people who genuinely care and love her - meethi, satyakam and Aryan she takes them for granted. And runs behind people who use her like AKT, T family..

I don't feel her pain to be honest today and seems she is not much in pain either as gudiya is fine...

Pasting my comments from another thread...

And I am still waiting.. waiting for writters to smell coffee and give me a good story with potential...

I stopped actively watching and reading WU since the bacha track.. Jo was not tolerable for me but then the bacha track continue and so does my wait to enjoy ASR again.

Now that Arylie marriage is broken it made me think how can this marriage would have even survived because Imlie married only for T family. Then I try to recall she did such a big sacrifice for T family by marrying Aryan. Did she made any such attempts for R family? None I could think of - Purandas track was for AKT because she always believed AKT was not responsible ( sorry, I don't believe then or now that she did it for Aryan), Surpita wedding was more for Bandar her friend, Jo track was about proving cheeku as legitimate child. Yes, she ran to arrange blood for Aryan but that obsession which I saw in her for T family was missing for me for R family. They way she would cook and bring everyone on table in T family was also missing in R family. If T family she stayed as maid, R family she stayed as guest. I never saw a DIL to be honest.

(Disclaimer: I have not see any clip, it's just wu my opinion is based on. I don't want to see and lose interest would rather read wu and wait for story change.)

Yes, Aryan is not God but honestly even in my mind I have the doubt that Imlie is obsessed with gudiya because it's AKT child. Come on, would Imlie bring all orphans to her home..and isn't it simple that Malini will hurt gudiya because she knows Imlie will save her...if Imlie removes herself from equation than gudiya would be of no use to Malini and she won't hurt her.. also, whatever clips I have seen, they rarely show Imlie careful about cheeku. She always forgot about cheeku like when it came to donating blood for gudiya.

Somehow my thinking is also coming from fact that I could never connect with Imlie, never in any track.. I am not saying Aryan is right but I can understand him and connect with him..but Imlie I can not because whatever I have seen, I have never seen Imlie care for R family or Aryan as she used to do for AKT and T family

I feel Imlie never loved Aryan but it was Aryan love which made her fall in love with idea of being in love with Aryan. I feel bad for Aryan and I know writters will once again show Imlie as right and make Aryan apologize at end of this track. Understand it's needed for separation but for once can we show Imlie also accepting her faults.

Well said 👏👏👏

Agreed to each and every word of this👍🏼

Exactly if u notice arylie bever had proper brealfast or dinner happily together.. its like shes always on some mission .. im honestly apart frm their chemistry started getting disconnected to them as couple as their convos or anything started looking boring.. reason i took whole break in surpita wedding track..

Originally posted by: Km181

Thanks for sharing this. Initially I thought I was outlier who believe Aryan was right in bringing AKT. Because, I too feel the same have seen Imlie's obsession for T family. Read entire thread on tt, author has perfectly stated the same...

No wonder I can never ever connect with Imlie, people who genuinely care and love her - meethi, satyakam and Aryan she takes them for granted. And runs behind people who use her like AKT, T family..

I don't feel her pain to be honest today and seems she is not much in pain either as gudiya is fine...

Pasting my comments from another thread...

And I am still waiting.. waiting for writters to smell coffee and give me a good story with potential...

I stopped actively watching and reading WU since the bacha track.. Jo was not tolerable for me but then the bacha track continue and so does my wait to enjoy ASR again.

Now that Arylie marriage is broken it made me think how can this marriage would have even survived because Imlie married only for T family. Then I try to recall she did such a big sacrifice for T family by marrying Aryan. Did she made any such attempts for R family? None I could think of - Purandas track was for AKT because she always believed AKT was not responsible ( sorry, I don't believe then or now that she did it for Aryan), Surpita wedding was more for Bandar her friend, Jo track was about proving cheeku as legitimate child. Yes, she ran to arrange blood for Aryan but that obsession which I saw in her for T family was missing for me for R family. They way she would cook and bring everyone on table in T family was also missing in R family. If T family she stayed as maid, R family she stayed as guest. I never saw a DIL to be honest.

(Disclaimer: I have not see any clip, it's just wu my opinion is based on. I don't want to see and lose interest would rather read wu and wait for story change.)

Yes, Aryan is not God but honestly even in my mind I have the doubt that Imlie is obsessed with gudiya because it's AKT child. Come on, would Imlie bring all orphans to her home..and isn't it simple that Malini will hurt gudiya because she knows Imlie will save her...if Imlie removes herself from equation than gudiya would be of no use to Malini and she won't hurt her.. also, whatever clips I have seen, they rarely show Imlie careful about cheeku. She always forgot about cheeku like when it came to donating blood for gudiya.

Somehow my thinking is also coming from fact that I could never connect with Imlie, never in any track.. I am not saying Aryan is right but I can understand him and connect with him..but Imlie I can not because whatever I have seen, I have never seen Imlie care for R family or Aryan as she used to do for AKT and T family

I feel Imlie never loved Aryan but it was Aryan love which made her fall in love with idea of being in love with Aryan. I feel bad for Aryan and I know writters will once again show Imlie as right and make Aryan apologize at end of this track. Understand it's needed for separation but for once can we show Imlie also accepting her faults.

Ahha What a thread, this got me excited bcz I have few of my opinions that I need to share as well and I am gonna use ur post to draw out those opinions, thanks dear for the contrasting views u have shared.

First of all, thanks to @Enlightened ji for sharing the TT thread here I can finally understand why Aryan brought AKT in their equation today.

Ok, so I read your post and as I have mentioned it got me so excited u know why bcz my views are different with a 360 degree angle how?

Q1. Why was Imlie so devoted to AKT & Ts?

Harsh truth but reality, the kind of love Imlie had for Akt & Ts was exactly the kind of love we have for god(not the normal devotees) but the ones who have blind faith and believe even in weird superstitions for the love of god. Wanna see an example:

https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/raipur/chhattisgarh-childless-women-let-priests-walk-on-them-in-hope-of-a-baby/articleshow/79348451.cms

These women are doing what they are doing for their love and faith in god so? Does that mean this is right? They are doing this so called ritual and letting "priests" run over their backs while they are lying on the road bcz they believe that it will bless them with a BABY. Yes, u read it right. Now, in sabka Imlie se kya relation? Bht bada relation hai why? Imlie did whatever she could for the Tripathis and AKT, she would entertain them, solve all their problems, run to save AKT every now and then, she did everything she could for them but why? Because Imlie always lived with the hope that one day the Tripathis and AKT will accept her be it whatever relation as beti or as bahu. Now we will say Aisa thodena hota hai? Ye mein nhi keh rahi ye khud Imlie ne kaha hai when she said she will live as RADHA / MEERA for AKT, wanted to become CHOTTI MAA to his child with his ex-wife who happens to be her half sister as well. So? Is this kind of love right? Than the devotion and love of the women above who are ready to do whatever they can to have a BABY is right as well. Sadly, the comments on the article and people's reaction does not agree with these women and their POV of devotion and love. But the women are right na? Whatever they are doing they are doing it to obtain a child of their own, to make their husband happy, to make their family happy so why their love is wrong?

Iss baat ka answer mein nhi dungi, mein chahti hoon aap khud sochkar batao

2. So, why is Imlie not devoted to R's so much?

Imlie ki life mein sabse important kon hai? Meethi & Satyakaam right? But Imlie is seen even sidelining these 2. But we all know ki Meethi & Satyakaam will always remain foremost important to Imlie. Does that mean that Imlie does not love these two? No, Imlie has various internal tendencies going on with her because of her childhood/village background/AKT/Tripathis. In short, the girl basically needs counselling and therapy. For me, she is hardly normal. I am not a phycology student/ psychiatrist/ mental health counsellor but I have seen a case of schizophrenia in my far extended family and that makes me come to this conclusion that there are pshycological issues going on with Imlie. And here is how one of the issues comes into picture: Imlie will never run behind the ones who truly love her/respect her but will she will die for the ones who does not value her/ are mean to her/ disrespect her/abuse her. Do u think any normal human would do that? NO, this is the major reason hardly any audience can connect to her. Now why she is not that devoted to Rs ? Bcz she has always received respect from them, but when Narmada turns against Imlie what happens? Imlie now becomes desperate to receive Narmada's love, she is even seen crying and begging her to forgive and accept her, but had Imlie done anything to hear those vile words from Narmada? NO, then why cry and beg her for forgiveness? Because she suffers from Stockholm Syndrome.

Now what is this syndrome?

Stockholm syndrome is a psychological condition that occurs when a victim of abuse identifies and attaches, or bonds, positively with their abuser. This syndrome was originally observed when hostages who were kidnapped not only bonded with their kidnappers, but also fell in love with them.

Professionals have expanded the definition of Stockholm syndrome to include any relationship in which victims of abuse develop a strong, loyal attachment to the perpetrators of abuse. Some of the populations affected with this condition include concentration camp prisoners, prisoners of war, abused children, incest survivors, victims of domestic violence, cult members etc.

3. Imlie married Aryan for T family?

NO, infact Imlie married Aryan to protect the Rathores from the vile intentions of BM. But then why did she agreed to Aryan's deal for marriage in return for Ts & AKT? Because of ARYAN himself. I know this will sound shocking but this is what it is. Why? Flashback to the scene when Imlie asks Aryan what does he want? Aryan says TUM, his TUM was the reason Imlie agreed to the deal because 1st time in her life someone was choosing her that too a man who was so obsessed to destroy AKT was ready to let go of it all in exchange of her. 1st she wanted to know why her? Wasn't she supposed to be a pawn for him but he is ready to let go of it all in exchange of having her in his life why? So she deliberately starts resisting him/ saying she hates him/keeps questioning him whether he loves her? She wanted to see how far he can go for her. Do u think anyone can just force a girl that too of today's generation into marriage just like that? This is Imlie we are talking about didn't she beat her own traffickers using a belt or something🤔 You still think Aryan could actually force Imlie into a marriage and Imlie would have left him alive? 🤪Also, she is enjoying all their challenges of pre wedding rituals, she wanted to see how far he can go and if whatever he is doing is really for her. With each ritual, Aryan proves it to her that he indeed wants her. Post this confirmation she has no problem in marrying Aryan proves? No resistance from her in making him wear her ring and wearing his instead look at her face, she is impressed. Their Holi challenge that he wins, she has a tear roll down her cheeks and is looking at him fascinated. Why all these reactions when she did not want to marry him? I see there are 2 sides to her personality: one is the Imlie who is burdened with few psychological issues/ abandonment issues/ Stockholm syndrome but then there is the real IMLE who is free spirited/ does whatever comes to her mind/ is not answerable to anyone/ free from all obligations and IT IS THE FREE IMLIE WHO IS DEEPLY IN LOVE WITH ARYAN, she had been falling for him the entire Adini Marriage but then the other side to her personality is the one that takes over her and forces her to go give a try and save herself from getting tagged of being a divorcee/ a woman who couldn't save her marriage- insecurities that are there in any village girl.

When I am able to connect to Imlie is when she is being her real self that is the JUNGLI IMLIE, that Imlie is Aryan's Imlie. The real Imlie was never in love with AKT, it is the village girl who thinks if she devotes herself to her husband then he will eventually start loving her that was infatuated with AKT since he was the sole male in her life who also happened to be her husband. The real Imlie is FIRE herself and what makes her fall for Aryan is because he instigates the fire in her, channels her energy, triggers the confidence in her to go win the world. There is a weird logic in ITV couples that if one is fire than the other has to be water/ice to control the energy of their counterpart but my logic is totally different in this case. If one is fire than the other should not be the one who tames down this fire but should be the one who instigates it instead giving u the energy to go conquer the world on ur own.

@Km181 my intention was never to look down on any of ur opinion it's just that these thoughts have been in my mind with respect to Imlie and Arylie and as soon as I saw your post I could see the entire opp thought process. So, I just got so excited that I ended up writing an essay on them. This is still not complete but I don't want to hijack my friend @Enlightened ji's thread so that's why leaving it in mid.

See I never wanted to see Imlie behave with Rathores as she was with Tripathi's, because i go by the narrative that her relationship with Tripathi's was highly toxic.

And if we want to call it love, then I want her to unlearn that kind of love and relearn a way of loving which is more balanced, healthy, priorities self respect and peace more than pleasing others. And she's halfway through.

Malini's return triggered her old trauma, and hence all this discussion returns too. Her gudiya obsession is like her Tripathi obsession and i don't expect it to be something different.

And I'd say that we are at start of a track, that means things will spiral, and mess will be made. It's a journey. If their love wins at the end, it will be worth the going through all the pain.

(God, i said same lines in December when adi.lie were seperating 🤣)

Wow Wasra!! That was so so beautiful 👏🏻👏🏻

Originally posted by: Param-Sundari

See I never wanted to see Imlie behave with Rathores as she was with Tripathi's, because i go by the narrative that her relationship with Tripathi's was highly toxic.

And if we want to call it love, then I want her to unlearn that kind of love and relearn a way of loving which is more balanced, healthy, priorities self respect and peace more than pleasing others. And she's halfway through.

Malini's return triggered her old trauma, and hence all this discussion returns too. Her gudiya obsession is like her Tripathi obsession and i don't expect it to be something different.

And I'd say that we are at start of a track, that means things will spiral, and mess will be made. It's a journey. If their love wins at the end, it will be worth the going through all the pain.

(God, i said same lines in December when adi.lie were seperating 🤣)

@bold: my intention behind attaching that article was to pin point this sundariji, I have seen people call that Love how could something like that be as pure as love😭