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Posted: 3 years ago
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n i also want to say i ask this before also but i find v funny that arpita just sitting at home n doing nothing afterhaving 15-16 business that one time her husband was only managing. she is educated n how come not involve in any business all big business families nw have their daughter in their business. n ASR toh is moorti of feminism pushing imlie for her dream then how come he didnt tell arpita to do same.. may be cos of his badle etc but now it is time to tell her tht she need to take up some work her husband left incomplete. that will be bettr than thinking society say vidhwa behen bhojh hai cos acc to story it was arvind who made all companies work n aryan only came after he died so arpta is arvind wife who made this big businesses

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Posted: 3 years ago
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I don't know man, I mean we can't say what insecurities a person holds inside themselves?

She coped with her husband's death by worrying about Aryan and his pain, and now finally when he's let go that moved on, she's even robbed off her coping mechanism.

Suddenly she's made to think about moving on. Rishtas are being discussed. While she has some confusing feelings for her only friend (I won't go into it much, because i find it half baked as well).

I agree that she can voice her opinion to her family in private and they can have a better outcome after it.


Also mili bro, high society is more ruthless in my opinion, the bored rich houswives live to gossip and talk shit about others, seen it from my own eyes. So somewhere her thoughts aren't completely unfounded.

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Posted: 3 years ago
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Originally posted by: PrincessDiana

n i also want to say i ask this before also but i find v funny that arpita just sitting at home n doing nothing afterhaving 15-16 business that one time her husband was only managing. she is educated n how come not involve in any business all big business families nw have their daughter in their business. n ASR toh is moorti of feminism pushing imlie for her dream then how come he didnt tell arpita to do same.. may be cos of his badle etc but now it is time to tell her tht she need to take up some work her husband left incomplete. that will be bettr than thinking society say vidhwa behen bhojh hai cos acc to story it was arvind who made all companies work n aryan only came after he died so arpta is arvind wife who made this big businesses

It could be her choice to not work... Business is not for everyone, some people are content with family life, nothing wrong in that.

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Posted: 3 years ago
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actually imlie's argument on if she is ok for him then y not sundar for arpi also makes no sense coz firstly she wasn't a maid, she was educated and an intern.. n acc to her Aryan married her due to revenge only, narmada didn't pick a maid for aryan only coz she loves him..

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Posted: 3 years ago
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Originally posted by: -JaZ-

actually imlie's argument on if she is ok for him then y not sundar for arpi also makes no sense coz firstly she wasn't a maid, she was educated and an intern.. n acc to her Aryan married her due to revenge only, narmada didn't pick a maid for aryan only coz she loves him..

I'm not denying that, see I'm ignoring a lot of things and trying to keep both rishtas at same level, the test of feelings.

Both are ready to accept her with widow status, but one evokes feelings in her, one doesn't, and one is rich other is poor.

Comparing on that note.

We know sunder has no ambition and is illiterate while Uday guy clearly seems to be a liar and a pawn.

This thread isn't about that.

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Posted: 3 years ago
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Originally posted by: SundariP

I'm not denying that, see I'm ignoring a lot of things and trying to keep both rishtas at same level, the test of feelings.

Both are ready to accept her with widow status, but one evokes feelings in her, one doesn't, and one is rich other is poor.

Comparing on that note.

We know sunder has no ambition and is illiterate while Uday guy clearly seems to be a liar and a pawn.

This thread isn't about that.

yep.. knew it.. just wrote it as I read it on princessdiana's post.. not related to the topic u made..

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Posted: 3 years ago
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Originally posted by: SundariP

It could be her choice to not work... Business is not for everyone, some people are content with family life, nothing wrong in that.

yes that u r right .. it should be her choice only

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Posted: 3 years ago
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so I haven't seen the episode yet. so I will just comment in general.


I think we have to look at this widow card in multiple ways -- so as a nation, we are multicultural, multilingual, multireligious and multicommunity. this means that we have very different ways of looking at the same topic such as widow card. we also have to consider how historical practices still silently affect attitudes today in certain parts but may not have as much relevance in other parts of the country. am not trying to hurt anyone's feelings or beliefs, but trying to give a general view -- please don't take offense as it is not meant to be disrespectful to anyone.

we need to look at the whole idea of fate and what we believe about death -- that also makes a difference in how we view widows, divorcees, relationship breakdowns.......

now that is one side, I have also seen some relatives characters like aunty blue who use the widow card to get out of tricky situations -- they will taunt and if anyone questions them, they create drama that they are widow and being attacked etc. 🤷‍♀️


we need to keep Arpita in that cultural lens as well -- she comes from a position where she is constantly told that because they didn't do all these rituals + her fate, that her husband died some horrible tragic death. so not only does she have grief, she is left with guilt and accusation that somehow her bad fate is why Arvind died. now wouldn't that make anyone more hesitant and more confused on what their options could be? the last time she chose, this man died. now his death has nothing to do with her but how does her grief translate what happened to him? when you have characters like aunty blue constantly taunting, won't a woman in some level blame herself?

as for her options, again, it depends on how we view re-marriage. in some families/communities, they feel that re-marriage means that your choices narrow and only choice is to move down. but that is not necessarily the case. it really depends on how open people are.

one of my mom's relative re-married and this was in 80s when it wasn't common at all. her husband passed away a year after their marriage in an accident. those days, re-marriage would have seemed like her choices were limited. however, they found someone who had never been married, good qualification etc who was willing to marry her. she didn't marry down.

nowadays, people are lot more open and more matter of fact about it and so it is not like people's choices are that limited. however, sometimes I have heard from colleagues from other parts of the country that it isn't necessarily so. I guess what I am trying to say it all depends. I am not criticizing anyone's culture as we are all different in our nation. however, it is what it is and our regional culture also plays a role in how we view something like what is shown in this serial. we are all not going to have the same reaction to these scenes. for some people, it will make sense and others not at all.


in regards to the drama, I really hope that we get good writing that shows how Arpita is dealing with the fallout from her grief and guilt in a meaningful way. I don't want her to choose Sundar because she is out of options but rather because he is a meaningful option for her. I want the creatives to slow down and write scenes for these side characters that are just as detailed and meaningful. then, this track and all the questions will be good --- otherwise, what to say... 🤷‍♀️

Edited by mango.falooda - 3 years ago
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Posted: 3 years ago
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I agree with your assessment but does any of it apply to Arpita? She is rich, loved and protected... Ab phir bhi kisi ko samaaj ke baare mein rona hai toh koi kuch nahin kar sakta hai



For the first time Arpita annoyed me.. Because nothing about her circumstances screams majboori..

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. Maybe the stupidity that has convinced her that she is in love with sundar has also convinced her that she is some bechaari abla naari...

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Posted: 3 years ago
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Originally posted by: bips

I agree with your assessment but does any of it apply to Arpita? She is rich, loved and protected... Ab phir bhi kisi ko samaaj ke baare mein rona hai toh koi kuch nahin kar sakta hai



For the first time Arpita annoyed me.. Because nothing about her circumstances screams majboori..

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. Maybe the stupidity that has convinced her that she is in love with sundar has also convinced her that she is some bechaari abla naari...

I am not sure if you were referring to my post or the starter post of this thread. 😅.. so anyway if it wasn't in response to mine, sorry for the intrusion.

being rich loved and protected does not mean families are open. some are really conservative and people can react strange.

this happened in my gym class. my friend had come for class and we were suprised as she was supposed to be at a wedding except it got cancelled. a huge fight had erupted between the two families. the guy and his family threw a fit that the girl was in shorts and had mehendi done on her legs during the mehendi function. her parents were like "what the *$%#". now both families are rich, love their kid and overprotective. so full blown fight and wedding called off -- over mehendi. 🤷‍♀️🤷‍♀️🤷‍♀️ we were all like "what??????????" ...

my point is that while arpita is not bechari or majboori, it is possible she behaves like one if people around her look through certain lenses. sometimes I wonder why these type of stories are still shown on ITV but then I have to remind myself that there are all sorts of people.... 🤷‍♀️

Edited by mango.falooda - 3 years ago

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