Arpita's hesitation and the Widow card

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Posted: 3 years ago
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Like many other things, society uses the widow card as per convinience, to keep a woman and her life in line.


1. When Arpita accepts her feelings for Sunder and Imlie asks her to act on it, she's clearly not ready. Reason? It will slander her family name, her mother and brother will be looked down upon by the society if she married someone who is in a lower ladder than her in societal hierarchy despite being a good man and her choice. Because she was a widow, the family didn't care enough to find her a better match.

(P.S. I'm ignoring a lot of things here to highlight her dilemma, and definitely not saying he's a suitable match for her, kindly read on)


2. When Imlie asks her about her meeting with Uday guy, and if she finds him a suitable match, BM cuts in to say how it's the men who gets to chose, why? Because he's somewhat close to the Rathores in societal hierarchy. And he's clearly projected himself as a well mannered person till now, so if Arpita refuses him now purely on the basis that he evokes no emotions in her, she's being high maintenance even though she's a widow and should be thankful that a man is ready accept her despite this.


My point, the widow card is used by the society as per it's convinience, so in such a case what should a widow or her family do? Heed the morons? Or just do what they think is right without giving two hoots about barking dogs.


Thoughts please.

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Posted: 3 years ago
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Originally posted by: SundariP

Like many other things, society uses the widow card at its convinience, to keep a woman in line.


1. When Arpita accepts her feelings for Sunder and Imlie asks her to act on it, she's clearly not ready. Reason? It will slander her family name, her mother and brother will be looked down upon by the society if she married someone who is in a lower ladder than her in societal hierarchy despite being a good man and her choice. Because she was a widow, the family didn't care enough to find her a better match.

(P.S. I'm ignoring a lot of things here to highlight her dilemma, and definitely not saying he's a suitable match for her, kindly read on)


2. When Imlie asks her about her meeting with Uday guy, and if she finds him a suitable match, BM cuts in to say how it's the men who gets to chose, why? Because he's somewhat close to the Rathores in societal hierarchy. And he's clearly projected himself as a well mannered person till now, so if Arpita refuses him now purely on the basis that he evokes no emotions in her, she's being high maintenance even though she's a widow and should be thankful that a man is ready accept her despite this.


My point, the widow card is used as by society as per it's convince, so in such a case what should a widow or her family do? Heed the morons? Or just do what they think is right without giving two hoots about barking dogs.


Thoughts please.

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Posted: 3 years ago
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Arpita don't even have to care about BM.. narmada and Aryan are her family who are not pressurizing her in any way for remarriage.. her marriage talks were not even thought of until imlie started it.. she shouldn't have even accepted for meeting that groom.. Aryan and narmada asked her choice.. as Aryan has once taunted imlie not to consider herself a victim.. arpi is doing the same.. she is deliberately making herself a victim.. if she is so much in love with sundar she can confide it to narmada atleast n then to Aryan and Aryan can help sundar to start his own restaurant even and then Arpita can marry him without letting the society question it.. there is no sword dangling over her head that she has to marry now itself..

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Posted: 3 years ago
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Originally posted by: Doctorsaman

pehli shadi se koi bacha hai ye dialoque ...

Blood started oozing from my ears .😭

Y y y ...

after all they have to make it look like Sundar is the only one who could love arpita.. this is what I said on that day too they are sending a regressive message that a widow can't find love in someone equal to her status.. n how happy excited imlie was on that day knowing Sundar loves arpi despite their status difference and immediately started her remarriage talks as if arpi can't find love anywhere else..

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Posted: 3 years ago
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Originally posted by: -JaZ-

after all they have to make it look like Sundar is the only one who could love arpita.. this is what I said on that day too they are sending a regressive message that a widow can't find love in someone equal to her status.. n how happy excited imlie was on that day knowing Sundar loves arpi despite their status difference and immediately started her remarriage talks as if arpi can't find love anywhere else..

no love i dnt agree with u..! Imlie has nothing to do with the status..even.she belongsto the same status...

Issue is that for a remarriage..there must be immense.love as person already is too much broken and sufgering..plus our eastern society pressure and stigma..so keep in mind all these things..arpi found sundar her best companion..

I dnt have any issues with arpita sunder track..issue is that they havnt showrd much deveolpment and rushing to marrigae and love..tht leaves a bad taste...

I wish they.showed sundar strugging opening some.dhaba..and arpita helping her..and falling in love..then marriage..

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Originally posted by: Doctorsaman

no love i dnt agree with u..! Imlie has nothing to do with the status..even.she belongsto the same status...

Issue is that for a remarriage..there must be immense.love as person already is too much broken and sufgering..plus our eastern society pressure and stigma..so keep in mind all these things..arpi found sundar her best companion..

I dnt have any issues with arpita sunder track..issue is that they havnt showrd much deveolpment and rushing to marrigae and love..tht leaves a bad taste...

I wish they.showed sundar strugging opening some.dhaba..and arpita helping her..and falling in love..then marriage..

I meant imlie didn't even felt like asking arpi before telling Aryan about her remarriage.. she started it once she knew Sundar loves her.. imlie is from lower strata but not arpi, yet she didn't even get a second thought on it that looks like she felt arpi being a widow may not find love in anyone else..

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Posted: 3 years ago
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Originally posted by: -JaZ-

I meant imlie didn't even felt like asking arpi before telling Aryan about her remarriage.. she started it once she knew Sundar loves her.. imlie is from lower strata but not arpi, yet she didn't even get a second thought on it that looks like she felt arpi being a widow may not find love in anyone else..

actually imlie is like arpi di ka sacha pyaar mera dost sunder...☺️ She is not thinking that much .bus fix kerdya usne
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Posted: 3 years ago
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Pooja, On the contrary, I was thinking, is Arpita really born and brought up as a Rathore? 😡I don't think it is the society who is using the widow card, it is show who is making her use the widow card😡 per convenience 👎🏼

She has a progressive family, a brother who will bring down the heavens for her, a mother who can be fierce in protecting her. She is not mingling with a middle class😒 ( I am sorry, not using this in a derogatory sense, but this strata is the most affected by societal norms practically speaking ) crowd to worry about log kya kahenge😡 She is in a strata of society, where nobody dares to call her a bhoj😡 I mean, this is pretty laughable, a family who are billionaires will find a " vidhava" daughter as a bhoj, so they married her off to a household help

Does she look in her own house? Her own brother? He married a divorceeIs being a " vidhava" worse than a " divorcee"? In both of these instances, what does the girl have to do with fate and destiny? If you think about it, with divorce, a woman may have to make some conscious choices, but somebody whose husband is killed is held responsible for what? 😡I hated the word being uttered again and again FOR THE FIRST TIME. It is like preaching to all of us irate viewers, look eh "xxxxx" hain, iss liye Sundar is such a saintly, gracious soul to love, respect and marry her😡🤬

And then suddenly, she is " in love" with Sundar. You know what, after today, I don't really care whom she chooses💔. I got so mad at her reasoning. I mean I do understand the predicament of thousands of girls in my country, who have limited to no choice because of real familial and financial constraints. But, here she has the utmost support, nobody is forcing her anything upon her, yet she comes up with this cockamamie excuse👎🏼. So, then what does it take for her to tell them her choice? Can she stall at least rather than stay mute when she is being asked? May be in private to her brother? Obviously, the vibes the nautanki guy gave are not hunky-dory, so, can she at least say that? Or her hands are tied here too because she is a " vidhava"😡 whom the nautanki guy had gracefully agreed to marry? Aaargghhhhh.........

If not for Imlie, Aryan interactions today, the episode would have had me totally hopping mad😡 Because of these two, I am surprised that I actually enjoyed the episode despite steam coming out of my ears. Seeti maar for me when Aryan said, I don't know if it is a game, a challenge or samaaj sudhaar for you👍🏼Every interaction from there on, with her falling into his arms from the heavens is 🤣😃 a stress buster. Is this heaven, it is quite comfortable, with no pain and no worries. Let me take a look🤣What the hell was that🤣Not sure how Aryan had a straight face listening through that charade👏

God, Aryan is too much of a stuck up guy, spilling his beans in front of his mom, because " he won't lie" to his mother🤣I just want to see what he is going to say to his mom , in the future you know when Imlie does something naughty.....😃Is he going to be blunt and say" she just kissed me or whatever......"🤣I locked her up, she jumped from the balcony. Nice lines about checking compatibility, both should know cooking, but just an FYI, you don't get to reject if the other doesn't know cooking🤣 Kya yeh banda self-goal maar raha hain or talking about Mr. Nautanki? 😃 But, I have to say the girl did a great job with her expressions in this interaction

I really don't care what nonsense they have with Arpita and her wedding. I am done with her after today.🤢 Just don't make character ASR fall. It does look like he is suspicious of the nautanki guy's fakeness. An ASR can not, not read this guy🤔How does BM know what they spoke in private? BTW, that guy looked like he is a decade younger than Arpita.

So, overall, I didn't feel as bad as I anticipated.👍🏼 I even liked Imlie's saree today👍🏼

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Originally posted by: -JaZ-

after all they have to make it look like Sundar is the only one who could love arpita.. this is what I said on that day too they are sending a regressive message that a widow can't find love in someone equal to her status.. n how happy excited imlie was on that day knowing Sundar loves arpi despite their status difference and immediately started her remarriage talks as if arpi can't find love anywhere else..

I agree with this. Absolutely hated the self-pity. How many times did she utter " I am vidhva " today? 👎🏼Extremely regressive😡. If this is so, no woman can have a second chance in love with a suited person. Kyunki they should all lower the bar so much, so they don't miss any " great catches", you know😡 Such a horrid message. While patrakaar jaise log toh do-do marriages kar sakte hain shauk se, and society could care less💔🤢

She is a billionaire, for God's sake. She is a gentle, beautiful and a kind woman. She has a doting brother who can make things happen for her. If she can't have a second chance with a suitable person, then my whole country and my fellow women, we are all doomed🤢 I can't tell you how mad I am with this insinuation😡

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Posted: 3 years ago
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Originally posted by: SundariP

Like many other things, society uses the widow card as per convinience, to keep a woman and her life in line.


oint, the widow card is used by the society as per it's convinience, so in such a case what should a widow or her family do? Heed the morons? Or just do what they think is right without giving two hoots about barking dogs.


Thoughts please.


this is just force track for story now otherwise till now arpita never behave like bechari widow n she dont need to behave like that cos she has ASR as brother n Narmada as mom. but only on the haldi ceremony first time BM make issue of widows. so till BM is there such family drama they will show.

Q1: even i find her reason v funny for saying it cant happen cos ppl will say thing to mom n bro. ASR dont care what ppl say look what happen in his own reception. so then that wy arpita should tell imlie why she behave like that in reception. so that day arpita was supporting imlie naukar nautanki but sundar was dress in suit boot 🤪 so abhi drama ke liye ye ho raha hai
Q2: this is actually how society work sadly. it is man status that is important so u see actually aryan arguemnt abt sundar is cos it is taken as man have to provide for wife shaukh n zaroorat. so when imlie start about i m also naukar n he tells her to stop it cos for him its not abt what work but how succesful person is, what can person do on his own power. again aryan not counting sundar bank balance but his power of doing something. he cannot see "fire" he saw in imlie (not going to detail why sundar is not suitable for arpita right nw cos i agree what aryan say cos sundar have no dreams) but this is fact that Aryan marry any girl it dont matter. ppl will say 2-3 thing he dont care n everyone keeps quiet cos he is the man so .. society is for patriarcy n so ladkewale are given so much bhaao n choice to make. it happen in many places even now .. almost all.

but @bold: that is what ppl who dont believe in society rule should do not all family think girls dont have choice n only ladke wala should be kept high. n u dont even hv to be Aryan singh rathore for that. anyone who believe in what they feel will not allow moron n ppl like BM to bark in their house.

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