Meethi & Imlie -- two hearts in two separate worlds - Page 2

Cheers dude.

This was perfect.

I agree to what all you've said. Thank you for this.❤️

There is definitely a power imbalance in their relationship and I presume that’s because of education. If there’s one thing that’s constant in Meethi’s dialogues, it’s that she lacked a formal education and that’s one of the reasons Imlie is so confident. Not only is she educated but she’s a topper, so on that objective measure, she already placed herself above her mother. It’s a very common thing also, doctors who are the children of homemakers often neglect their parents inputs because they feel like they can do it all even tho it’s their parents choices that got them here.

Feeding that imbalance is the Tripathis dependence on Imlie. They call her whenever anything needs to be done so she’s given this importance that’s beyond her age or experience. She given this illusion that she can handle everything, including a 5 crore (or something, I forgot the amount) debt, despite being 19 years old. Aryan and Meethi try to remind her that she isn’t infallible but it never gets through her head.

So when Meethi gives Imlie a suggestion or piece of advice, it doesn’t ring in Imlie’s head as something valuable. She doesn’t see herself as the child anymore, rather she sees herself as the parent whose going to keep Meethi afloat and protect her. Idk if you’ve ever watched the show This is Us but Randall was trying to force Rebecca to see the doctor or something and Rebecca had to say “enough Randall, I’m still the parent in this relationship and you’re still the child” to which he was about to retort “it hasn’t been that way for years” because since the death of Jack (Rebecca’s husband and Randall’s father), she hasn’t been at her prime. Randall took upon himself a lot of responsibilities at 17 like taking care of his siblings and his mother, and choosing her over his dreams, that he saw himself as the parent as well. Rebecca’s heart broke at Randall’s implications because it did undermine all the strength she showed in raising her children as a single mother and learning to live without her husband. He basically said she was incapable of handling herself and them, and by overriding her mothers inputs, Imlie implies a similar thought. Imlie’s very similar to Randall in those aspects. She has a hero complex and sees herself as above the rest.

The quote starts at around 2 minutes https://youtu.be/-WqOlBumQZg

In addition to education, also personality (Meethi is not a forceful person for the most part) and maybe the urban-rural divide also contributes to the power imbalance.

I haven't watched that show but that clip really demonstrates well when the child sees themselves as the parent for so long and the struggle that comes between the two.

If the writers play it well, the mother daughter conflict can be used to create some great powerful scenes as they mature into a more healthy parent-adult child relationship. Meethi may be uneducated but the woman is a survivor -- and she clearly has an opinion on the Tripathy family. It will be interesting to hear her thoughts and why she felt a marriage to Aryan was needed to protect Imlie.

Much as I am enjoying Arylie, I would get a toothache if the drama solely revolved around these two. 😂. So it will be good to see the other characters also shine and get their space in the drama.

Originally posted by: PrincessDiana

first v beautiful writing n v nice video i hv seen before this video.

i dnt know if u write as experience of a mom urself but child can only understand parent when they have child of their own n tht is biggest truth in world. imlie will understand one day why mitthi force her today n she will also regret talking like tht to her amma. anyway mitthidnt say anything wrong. every child got mom ka karz u can nevr give n even if mom say in anger about it mom will never take anything from child for that kaz anyway

i hv not watched show since starting so i dont know wht they show about mitthi n imlie (n SK) snce start but i feel SK made imlie this dahade wali khookhare wali ladki like she call herself n she go to mitthi only when she need word of support (like MiuniS saying) cos she only seen talking with mitthi on phone to get comfort only. she never ask mitthi for any help unlss it about babusahab lost in PD. i think SK n mitthi nvr had any thing less for living. they r not shown very poor who dont have food or struggle for things (m saying what i saw from 310 epi) so imlie dont know value of hardowrk tht mitthi put to make her life. like u say aryan know value of hardwork n how much struggle to make money n give life to children. wht u write abt children-parent conflict is also correct n it happen not only in teenage but since birth n at many stage in growing. even small child from age of 1 start want to be idependent, then when they become 3 yr old they think they independent n many time they dont understand who has authority n they wnt to make decision but at that tiem cos they r 3 yr old no one question parent if they force them to do or not do sthng so tht the child is not in danger. v can talk abt any age but for a parent, child alwyas remain child. i m mom but my mom think i am a child she still feel she want to protect me always n i know why she feel that. if we say in marriage issue there r many parent who want full control on child life for many reason of their own izzat n other such thing but there r many parent who allow child to take decision n marry (love) person of their choice but if something goes wrong then the parent get protective n it is natural feeling. i am totally meethi side cos she did best for imlie cos mitthi also seen imlie madness in PD after all the pain AKT give her n then giving full money for loan but that time also mitthi didnt stop her from giving money cos she allow her to make decision. she say ok u give u want to but not all. think of urself. so till mitthi see that imlie is thinking of herself mitthi will not stop her from doing good for T. but mitthi willnot stay quiet if imlie going to destroy her life. no mom will n it dont matter how old child is.

imlie cant understnad mitthi cos she only know mitthi emotional struggle cos dev left her but she dont know (maybe) how mitthi struggle in life to make her study n why mitthi want her to dream big why mitthi dont want her to live lfe of 'second woman' (imlie is second woman for AKT, whether anyone like or not cos malini ws his first choice n still his wife) cos mitthi not yet given her tht truth talk i thik (dont know about prev epi) so like for parent child doesnt become big, for child also at any age to hear harsh word in anger frm parent is always very hurting. imlie is angry n she say u r not my amma but she know amma is only one for her.actually her conflict with mitthi is cos she dont have answer from aryan to her Q. when her anger with aryan become less she will talk to mitthi also n better say sorry. aryan ws right mera gussa amma pe mat uratro but all kids do that. mom always taken for granted. always.

I really hope that we get scenes where Meethi opens up to Imlie and gives her thoughts on what it was like to be second woman, to be left behind and the struggles she faced. Only then will Imlie appreciate why her mom chose Aryan as a partner and his family won her approval as in-laws. Imlie does need a perspective check -- but this would require her to really admit that her first marriage really sucked and it is time to cut ties with that family.

Originally posted by: mango.falooda

In addition to education, also personality (Meethi is not a forceful person for the most part) and maybe the urban-rural divide also contributes to the power imbalance. I wonder if Imlie thinks that Meethi cannot understand the shehri (city) ways, and that is, in part, why she invalidates Meethi's opinion of Aryan.

I haven't watched that show but that clip really demonstrates well when the child sees themselves as the parent for so long and the struggle that comes between the two.

If the writers play it well, the mother daughter conflict can be used to create some great powerful scenes as they mature into a more healthy parent-adult child relationship. Meethi may be uneducated but the woman is a survivor -- and she clearly has an opinion on the Tripathy family. It will be interesting to hear her thoughts and why she felt marriage to Aryan was needed to protect Imlie.

Much as I am enjoying Arylie, I would get a toothache if the drama solely revolved around these two. 😂. So it will be good to see the other characters also shine and get their space in the drama.

Fabolous show, totally recommend it, will make you cry every episode.

A thousand percent. Everyone has this image of Meethi where she's silent and needs someone to stand up to her but that's not the case. She's silent because she's holding back. When Meethi commands attention, her thoughts will be so powerful and I'm so excited to hear them. I want to see her give a reality-check to Imlie and I want to see her talk to the Tripathi family cause she definitely has strong opinions about them. She made some comments during the wedding whereby praising the Rathores, she put the Tripathis to shame a little. I want to hear more about that.

One thing I want to see is the conflict between Meethi&Rathores against the Tripathis because it's slowly being built up. They have different ideas about what a fulfilled Imlie looks like and I want to see those come face to face. What the Tripathis might see after marriage will incite jealousy because now there is someone to who Imlie has to give equal or more attention to (the in-laws).

I also want to see more of Imlie's career and education.

Thank you for the tag and the post, Mango ji ( OK to address you like this? ). I loved the brilliant discussion. Parenting is the hardest job for anybody, be it for a president of a country, Bill Gates or a child psychiatrist.

And empathy and gratitude are the hardest things to teach, to anybody, let alone to your kids. I agree with all principles here, but application is very, very difficult.

I feel that Imlie-Meethi bond is the closest bond, because for either of them, apart from having the other, they didn't have anybody for all these years. Meethi is less forceful, less vocal but she gives sane advice and keeps her grounded. Imlie knows she can go back to her mom anytime, she is her soft landing place, no questions asked. She expects and receives unconditional love from Meethi. Meethi has no monetary expectations from Imlie. Look at that proud mother who probably survives hand to mouth, but refused to take Imlie's money from Aryan. That is her, a true mother, available when needed, recedes into the shadows to not be a hinderance to her child at other times. Again, this is not to judge those parents who have expectation of support from their able and financially stable children. I am just making a contrast between Meethi and the T family.

Contrast this to the T family. They put her up as a superwoman who can do anything, cook, fight, keep house, earn, rescue, drive away second wives, cure leukemia with marriage and solve every damn problem of theirs, whether she is in the role of a household help or bahu or cast away ex-bahu. The responsibilities are different based on which role she is playing, but she has conditions and responsibilities to be fulfilled. There are expectations to be met. She is the NEEDED one😡 Imagine the adrenaline rush a teenager would get with this. She marries off a patient with leukemia and Poof! he is cured. What does that do to a gullible teenager's psyche? They escalate expectations gradually, and now we are at 6 crores worth of house, save Aparna from her heart attack, patrakaar's reputation, his social standing . The list never stops and keeps growing......😡

Imlie takes Meethi for granted. She doesn't get that " adulation and importance" from her mother most unexposed teenagers might crave for. Agree with Meethi never mouthing her struggles to Imlie bringing her up, is detrimental. So, she doesn't even think of her mother's living conditions, simple needs such as even having to use a land phone from a post office, it doesn't even strike to her as an inconvenience that can be easily corrected. But, she feels that for the T family, not living in their own ancestral house valued at 6 crores is an inconvenience. There are so many alternatives, but they don't even explore, but ask her to solve. Would Meethi have put her daughter in such a condition of obligation with her boss ? Would a mother ever have the heart to do this to their child? Would they not even ask, what did you have to give up in return for this 6 crores? What did you have to give up in return to get the patrakaar out of prison? How the heck did they expect her to solve these monumental issues?

So what I see here is classic alienation that we see in some of the highschoolers around. There are people who say things they want to hear ( you are so smart , you don't have to work so hard, your parents are being so harsh, if it were my parents, I would rebel and have my belly button pierced, it is after all my body etc. etc. etc... ). These people become their best friends, their soul mates. While the parent who says no to any of the above is their arch nemesis.

That is what is happening here. Meethi and Aryan are worried about this undue adulation of a 19 yr old, they tell her repeatedly, you are a 19 yr old, take care of your life, your career, your dreams and your goals. They try to ground her and she doesn't like it, although she knows in the heart of hearts that they are looking out for her. This is what made her defend Aryan, so strongly. This is what puts her mind and heart in direct conflict when it comes to Aryan. Her tantrum with Meethi also can be viewed as such, look at the spectacle of hugging all the T family and leave Meethi.

This girl is going to repent BIG TIME, I mean BIG TIME. I just hope Aryan gives her the tough love and doesn't enable her nonsense.

I know all of us look at this situation based on our life experiences, where we are in life and our general outlook. I don't think the writers put so much thought into this. But, thanks for a great discussion. This is how I felt, my friend.

Those are some great thoughts @mili9, makes so much sense!!! 😘

It is really sad that Imlie never thought about something small like getting a phone for her mother but was obsessed in saving a 6 crore house with her salary. It seemed ridiculous because they could have always found another house to live in. Okay, rented house but is living in rented house that much of a tragedy? Even if it was, wasn't it Aditya's responsibility to take care of it? Wasn't it the responsibility of the other 2 siblings (whose names I don't even know! 😆)... Instead, they rely on a 19 year old and prep her up. While it may not be intentional like blue aunty type planning, ultimately, they are using her.

Now that she is married off into another family, they won't be able to call her as often to use her. Definitely a rumble is up ahead between the two families. It will be interesting to see how Meethi plays into it with her thoughts and input.

Originally posted by: chotoranii

I don’t think you’re wrong I just Don’t think the writers are that smart and they just needed someone to make a villain

I meant to write yesterday but missed it.

Imlie being ungrateful / not appreciating Meethi is reflective of a wider problem in society. I even saw a few articles about it during the lockdown in the Sunday supplement of a national paper. They mentioned this incident where this father had got his 16 year old son some expensive car (think it was BMW?) but it wasn't the car that the son had asked for (some other expensive brand, can't remember as I am not into cars). So the son in anger drove the car into the Yamuna river. It made news and people were chatting about it as they found it so shocking.The family wasn't some generational rich type family. The father through his own hard work had lifted himself up and yet the son had no appreciation of the gift the father had given him. Now this boy isn't unique in the sense -- there was a lot of chatter that these days, children are not appreciative of the parents or they don't have any sense of value of things like hard work etc. Especially as many families are having only one child, they tend to pamper them to a point where the kids are unable to hear the word 'no', issues when the parent disciplines them and have no sense of value of anything.

So I would agree with you that the writers are not intending to write anything deep but this scene is in some sense a reflection of a problem that many parents are grappling with. There is a generational shift in how parents approach parenting -- the previous generation was very heavy down and the children had no voice. Now there is a problem where some parents are saying they have no voice and there is an imbalanced power dynamic in favour of the children. It is why we are seeing this theme appear in many dramas these days (including Anupama where she had a confrontation with her family about how they don't appreciate her at all)

The Imlie - Meethi dynamic is much more complicated than the typical Indian parent dynamic with their child.

Imlie understands Meethi's efforts despite them being downplayed. But what Imlie doesn't understand that Meethi at the end of the day is her mother.

Meethi has always supported Imlie, unconditionally. It was always the two of them against the world. That is why when Meethi takes up the role of a mother Imlie can't take it.

Meethi has never over ruled Imlie before. They have been on the same side. Against nani, against the village, against everyone but never against each other. They have been partners more than mother and daughter that is why when Meethi finally exerts her right of being a mother Imlie can't handle it and 'disowns' Meethi.

Her behaviour was sickening to say the least 🤢

Originally posted by: Baarish_Sim

Fabolous show, totally recommend it, will make you cry every episode.

A thousand percent. Everyone has this image of Meethi where she's silent and needs someone to stand up to her but that's not the case. She's silent because she's holding back. When Meethi commands attention, her thoughts will be so powerful and I'm so excited to hear them. I want to see her give a reality-check to Imlie and I want to see her talk to the Tripathi family cause she definitely has strong opinions about them. She made some comments during the wedding whereby praising the Rathores, she put the Tripathis to shame a little. I want to hear more about that.

One thing I want to see is the conflict between Meethi&Rathores against the Tripathis because it's slowly being built up. They have different ideas about what a fulfilled Imlie looks like and I want to see those come face to face. What the Tripathis might see after marriage will incite jealousy because now there is someone to who Imlie has to give equal or more attention to (the in-laws).

I also want to see more of Imlie's career and education.

But this one is what I'd personally love to see on the screen. Meethi coming out strongly in support of the Rathores & giving a mouthful to the Tripathis as well as Imlie. Imlie is getting on my nerves now. I simply cannot take her seriously anymore. Sorry but that's what it is.