Aryan’s Ambiguity

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Posted: 3 years ago
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Was Aryan skeptical of Imlie’s intentions today (her gleeful smile and mast maula dancing) or was he distraught at her resignation to defeat. Initially I thought it was the former, him not believing she could submit herself to these rituals but then some of his dialogues and wistful smile are putting me in doubts. Aryan didn’t have the aura or confidence of a victor or competitor in todays episode. Rather he looked remorseful, wondering if he pushed her so hard that she broke and gave in. He insisted on meeting her to share (some of) his true intentions. Does that mean he’d willingly back out if she rejected this marriage after his confession?

Whereas Imlie had the smirk of a champion, reminiscent of Aryan when he defeats her using schemes (like the Sangeet pendrive scene). It was like the roles were reversed today. Which tracks with the previous episode where Aryans tear fell on Imlie’s hand.

Once again, I think these two are perfect for each other because they are equal in so many ways. For example, Imlie’s method of escaping this marriage is also revenge - setting Aryan up for a marriage he doesn’t want or consented to, thereby forcing him to a fate similar to hers. Yes she’ll save him eventually but that adds to the point that they’re the same since Aryan is likely doing something similar. Aryan can call out Imlie for putting her life aside for the Tripathis but isn’t he doing something similar with his revenge for Arvind. Like Arpita said, he’s so caught up in his emotions and protectiveness that he doesn’t see rationality or costs.

I think it was a mix of both, but the latter (remorse) weighed heavier on him. What do you guys think?

PS, everyone in this show has gone mad. Literally, Aditya’s trying for a groom swap and Imlie and Doll are trying for a bride swap. Where’s the originality? Aditya you should’ve come up with a diff plan lol 😂 Its like they’re all showing up to a Halloween party in the same costume cause it was on sale. It’s like the Spider-Man meme with the two Spider-Man’s pointing at each other like :O

Did 'Spider-Man: No Way Home' Recreate the 'Spideys Pointing at Each Other' Meme?

Also Malini, where ya at? You’re the only one missing from this party

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Posted: 3 years ago
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For the record he'd have always backed out if she said NO, choosing herself over the saviour complex that she has going all the time. The deal that aryan offered is only unfair to extent that it was his win either way.


Thing is she didn't say no. She does a babusaheb when Aryan offers the deal, adding 1+1=5 and choosing the narrative that is more convenient to her that is make Aryan the villian.


We cut her slack because of age and lack of experience but truth is she has penchant for wrong decisions then self victimization. Hardly ever any reflection and correction going forward.

Stupidity is fed to audience in name of imlie-panthi.



I agree about them being perfect for eachother, more in the context that both of them love their family to the extent of self destruction. Both are lost and need to re discover each other before they discover love.

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Posted: 3 years ago
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Originally posted by: Baarish_Sim

PS, everyone in this show has gone mad. Literally, Aditya’s trying for a groom swap and Imlie and Doll are trying for a bride swap. Where’s the originality? Aditya you should’ve come up with a diff plan lol 😂 Its like they’re all showing up to a Halloween party in the same costume cause it was on sale. It’s like the Spider-Man meme with the two Spider-Man’s pointing at each other like :O

Did 'Spider-Man: No Way Home' Recreate the 'Spideys Pointing at Each Other' Meme?

Also Malini, where ya at? You’re the only one missing from this party

I guess, I wasn't the only one thinking of this meme🤣


Also how did Adi know what Aryan is wearing🤕


I get the Imlie one although again, who paid for BD's one?! Or in-debt Patrakar?🤪

Did Aryan already give Imlie access to his credit cards or is Aryun's bride wearing a £5 wedding from the marketwa🤭

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Posted: 3 years ago
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Literally me side-eyeing debt ridden Patrakaar!

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Did he loot through poor Sundar's life savings again or did Aryan give him money to attend the wedding half-decent🙃


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Posted: 3 years ago
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Originally posted by: Baarish_Sim

Was Aryan skeptical of Imlie’s intentions today (her gleeful smile and mast maula dancing) or was he distraught at her resignation to defeat. Initially I thought it was the former, him not believing she could submit herself to these rituals but then some of his dialogues and wistful smile are putting me in doubts. Aryan didn’t have the aura or confidence of a victor or competitor in todays episode. Rather he looked remorseful, wondering if he pushed her so hard that she broke and gave in. He insisted on meeting her to share (some of) his true intentions. Does that mean he’d willingly back out if she rejected this marriage after his confession?


Bold: It is him pushing for this marriage but he doesn't enjoy it. He doesn't like forcing her and he would make this entire thing go away in a heartbeat if she just chose herself. Just once. Aryan loves her (so much) and its heartbreaking for him to have Imlie hate him. Just seconds before he pushes her into an unwanted marriage he crumbles and has to let at the very least a part of his true feelings out to her. And if in that moment she would have wanted to back out he would have listened. He would be that happiest despite being so in love with her because she in that moment would have saved herself.


She would have chosen herself and that is all he wanted for her. He just couldn't stand by and watch her self destruct. For Imlie it is a challenge she wants to win. For Aryan, he loses either way and yet all he wants is her happiness. Imlie is taking the challenge head on but Aryan has nothing. He is not happy doing this and therefore there was no winning and therefore no feeling like a victor. He would have won if only Imlie chose herself, she didn't and so he lost.


So yes. He would have backed out. Without a word, without any speck of hesitation.

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Posted: 3 years ago
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Originally posted by: Baarish_Sim

Like Arpita said, he’s so caught up in his emotions and protectiveness that he doesn’t see rationality or costs.


He doesn't care about the cost as long as Imlie's life stays intact. He would move heaven and hell if it meant she would no longer self destruct. That is the way he loves.

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Posted: 3 years ago
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He doesn't care about the cost as long as Imlie's life stays intact. He would move heaven and hell if it meant she would no longer self destruct. That is the way he loves.

He would destroy himself in her eyes and everyone else's eye's as long as no pain is coming from

Adi and T family near her.


He's seen how much they've destroyed, he's seen her on that cliff. He's also been destroyed by Adi!


Now that she means something to him, even if he's unaware of the love he feels for her, he respects her and respects her mother and the promise he made to her.


Is he hurting her? Yes!
But is he doing it with bad intentions or just to cause her pain like the T's did? No


Intentions matter for me, he's human after all, he's flawed and not perfect. And I know these errors are very big but sometimes people leave you without a choice after all.


The best thing for himself would have been to leave her alone and let her walk on the path on off self destruction, but he's chosen the harder and more damaging route instead🤧


And in all this emotional turmoil, he's gone about it in such a degrading and sh-tty way. His actions doesn't match his powerful words about feminism.


It looks pathetic and fake🥲


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The best thing for himself would have been to leave her alone and let her walk on the path on off self destruction, but he's chosen the harder and more damaging route instead🤧


And in all this emotional turmoil, he's gone about it in such a degrading and sh-tty way. His actions doesn't match his powerful words about feminism.


It looks pathetic and fake🥲


This is the part I disagree with. It takes a lot of courage, will power and love to do something like he is doing for Imlie. I have been in a position in my life, a position to which I look back and can't help but wish that someone would have stopped me from making that decision. Would I have resisted? Yes. Would it have damaged my relationship with that person? Definitely.


Everyone chose their relationship with me over my well being. Do I blame them? No. But does that stop me from wishing someone had been a little less selfish and chosen me? No.


It boils down to agency and intervention and while intervention is not always appreciated it is the sign of a relationship you must treasure.


She still has a choice. She always has a choice with him. She just decides to ignore it anyways.

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Posted: 3 years ago
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This is the part I disagree with. It takes a lot of courage, will power and love to do something like he is doing for Imlie. I have been in a position in my life, a position to which I look back and can't help but wish that someone would have stopped me from making that decision. Would I have resisted? Yes. Would it have damaged my relationship with that person? Definitely.


Everyone chose their relationship with me over my well being. Do I blame them? No. But does that stop me from wishing someone had been a little less selfish and chosen me? No.


It boils down to agency and intervention and while intervention is not always appreciated it is the sign of a relationship you must treasure.


She still has a choice. She always has a choice with him. She just decides to ignore it anyways.


Been there with others so I know what you're talking about.


I feel like I didn't write my view 100% transparently.

I have no problem with the deal wedding itself, because she has a choice, even if she her self doesn't see it at all.


My problems are some off the actions he's taken since the deal wedding became a thing, for example he had no right turning it from fake to real at all, without her consent, she only consented to fake.


At this point, her consent is very dubious when it comes to the real deal wedding, yes she's shown to have a way out and she never takes it but regardless she never ever consented to a real wedding.


Another example is, she refused to put on real mehendi and again he ignored it and the worst part, did it while's asleep. He took advantage of the fact that she's a heavy sleeper! I personally don't see it as an innocent prank because right now, their relationship/friendship is not at that level anymore after the last few episodes.


While I dislike the man-handling, I'm not gonna hold it against him since this is ITV after all and it's a common trope used in all serials. Also my girl is out there biting him and slapping his chest🤕


I do agree that this girl needs conservatorship due to her self destructive tendencies, boy get her some therapy lol. It still doesn't give Aryan any right to ignore her consent and force her to see the world from his viewpoint.


At the end of the day, you can only help someone so much but if they're not willing to help themselves even .01% then there's nothing anyone else can do for them but be there to watch the self destruction. It's not fair to force others to be a part of your self-destruction because it hurts and drains them mentally and physically.


To have to watch someone die right infront your eyes and not be able to do a single thing is absolute torture, it genuinely traumatises in ways that you didn't even know existed. At some point you either become an enabler or you also slowly kill yourself alongside them.

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Posted: 3 years ago
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Originally posted by: lovereading14


This is the part I disagree with. It takes a lot of courage, will power and love to do something like he is doing for Imlie. I have been in a position in my life, a position to which I look back and can't help but wish that someone would have stopped me from making that decision. Would I have resisted? Yes. Would it have damaged my relationship with that person? Definitely.


Everyone chose their relationship with me over my well being. Do I blame them? No. But does that stop me from wishing someone had been a little less selfish and chosen me? No.


It boils down to agency and intervention and while intervention is not always appreciated it is the sign of a relationship you must treasure.


She still has a choice. She always has a choice with him. She just decides to ignore it anyways.

@ bold - exactly!

I made a mistake or took a decision when I was about 17 years old, I soooooo wish some one stopped me or did not let me do that .... none from friends stepped up/in and called me out... family was in different town... no mobiles in small villages..back then....

NOW in my upper 30's I am still searching a REAL friend who will tell me the truth on my face without judging me.... will stop me making stuxxx decisions in my life without fearing my relation ...without any sugar coating.... NO LUCK😔

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