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Posted: 3 years ago
#71

Originally posted by: SundariP

She needs to be prosecuted for her crimes... legally.

but just because she did that crime, does not mean her sufferings can be discounted.

A person is balance of karmas.... and time aspect is also important;

your past bad deeds can be redeemed by future actions that's the whole action-consequences cycle and justice system.

but can it go reverse? like present crimes wiping off past good deeds?

or we can redeem crimes only after they are committed and the past credits count for nothing??


(i hope this makes sense to the reader 😳)


@M: have you read this thread??


True that! @bold

Shhh..are we allowed to make sense of a "vamp"? 😆

A redemption is part of any arc..be it the hero or any aira gaira that has remotely anything substantial to do with a story. Often, this redemption is overlooked.

If I have to sound "unbiased", I really wanted Aryan to apologize after he clutched Imlie's arms painfully in that "worrying for BS after seeing him on TV" episode.

Coming to Malini, she did wrong..she is to be punished. But by only highlighting the crime, we are wiping away any good that she did previously. And hence we view any future actions with those yellow tinted glasses.

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Posted: 3 years ago
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...and might I add, by burying the evidence against Malini, Adi did more harm than good. Nope..not talking from the Adilie perspective (Why would I complain about that when we are getting Arylie?😁) Adi and his family have gifted Malini a Monopoly "get out of jail " card. And with her mother's going cray cray every now and then, you think she is going to even remotely retrospect. Her anger and thirst for victory over Imlie is gonna increase. Funnily though, only Imlie is her target..whereas she has been wronged by everyone in the T household. If she was a typical Ekta Kapoor vamp, then first toh she would have thrown all of them out of the house. Her wanting to buy the house for Ts (even though her intention was different)..bit do you think that counts for a step towards redemption (morally)

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Posted: 3 years ago
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Evidence deletion... Same thoughts as you said, that act in itself is criminal in nature.


From Malini's perspective, the Ts did love her, it started to change only after Imlie so she's likely to blame her, they've been hot and cold with her, so I'll hazard a guess that she has Stockholm syndrome for T party not less than imlie.

The problem here is they're not seeing their captor(s) and blaming each other... Classic case of 2 billi ki ladai me bandar ka fayada.


Buying the house... I can't see from redemption perspective because her intentions were purely to hurt imlie and make the family realise her importance.

I can see it as her getting even with them for all the I'll treatment... I don't mind that angle, actually I'll applaud her for that.

But for redemption the intentions matter so no.

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Posted: 3 years ago
#74

Originally posted by: Bluegrass

Teer means riverbank in Hindi. They never meet even if they run along. "Bad" is an inadequate word. I felt piteous for Malini today. The way I perceive her at this moment isn't based on what the writers were planning to do or going to do. I only consider how she culminates in the writing now.

I can imagine Dev and Anu experiencing an ennui in their marriage even before Malini was in her teenage. She was an elitist, self-centred woman who would have loved the idea of a perfect couple. She'd constantly perform her love in society parties and all that. Dev, on the other hand, married her to elevate his career, but he didn't love her. Sure, they must have been attracted to each other, but they were both shallow enough for that attraction to never transform into actual love. They would have been pleasant but deep-down very bored with each other.

Comes Malini, their golden child. They would have dotted on her. But they still do not love each other beyond a certain pleasantness that could turn nasty anytime they could not keep up the pretence.

Now Dev is a self-righteous man, but he also has narcissistic ideas about artists and their inspiration and all that jazz. Bored as hell with the plastic society life, he says : 'f–ck it, let's see how poor people live. Let me paint them and earn lakhs from them.' Not in so many crude words of course, he thinks very highly of himself.

So, he goes to Pagdandiya, gets 'inspired' by it enough to fall in love with a young Meethi. She must have served his self-image very well. A young, unworldly girl completely enamoured with middle-aged Dev? Sure-sure.

He impregnates her, but oh shit! Remember his self-righteousness? He can't imagine wrecking his marriage with his rich wife, but he neither can abandon his unborn child. The rich wife wins over the dehati muse, of course.

To Anu, the loss of image would have been devastating, she would have hated Dev for wrecking her pleasantness. But a middle-aged Anu upturned by some dehati belle. No, we couldn't have that. There would be no divorce.

She weaponises the only thing that matters to Dev the cheater: Malini. Malini is sandwiched between her mother's rotting unhappiness and her father's guilt for bringing such betrayal and sadness to their household.

Both are neglectful and bad parents; they compensate their lack of attention by pampering her. She's a love-starved child who gets all she desires.

Unhappy but pleasant, she decides that her life will be filled with happiness and love unlike her mother's. She meets Aditya. A perfect match between an academic and a conscientious journalist. He fulfills her need for attention, and she unknowingly feeds his ego. They do everything right. A good friendship turning into a long courtship. It's pleasant; not having any better example, she thinks it love. Trying to be better than her mother, she doesn't even question it when her fiance brings a random girl back from the same place. It completely destabilises her to even think that her fiance could be forcefully married to the girl. This was her only chance at happiness, after all.

The first few months of marriage are truly good till Aditya decides that he indeed loves the much younger Imlie, who because of her social conditioning, thinks of him as her husband and worships him. Malini's marriage is destroyed. Her husband has always been married to her half-sister, but she also tries to be better person than her mother.

But wait... She's also someone who a) gets everything she wants b) has been weaponised by her mother in her resentful marriage. She snaps, she realises that her life mirrors her mother's in the most cruel way. She's had enough.

She won't let anyone else snatch away her idea of happiness just like what happened to her mother. She's willing to go to any length. She knows that Aditya gets a high from the attention of both the women; she worms her way into her own sister's relationship. But sinks to the depth of seventh hell, she rapes Aditya and impregnates herself.

Now she's the one weaponising her child in her dead marriage. She's just like her mother.

I do not empathise with a rapist. Really, how does one do it? But her breakdown today was a breakdown of a person who has sunk to such depths that she doesn't recognise herself. She wasn't a bad person, she would not have turned one had Aditya been an adult enough to tell her the truth despite her fainting. Had he not indulged their courtship knowing that he doesn't love her. Again asserting what I said above she wouldn't have turned this way had Anu and Dev not been such emotionally manipulative parents.

In her mind, she has avenged herself and her mother from Imlie. But she knows that she has lost the love she had so badly craved, she has lost herself, she has lost her sister. She has become a monster to the point of no return.

I feel bad for Imlie too— the other teer of this river. An illegitimate child, all her relationships had been questioned from her very beginning. All those who were her family couldn't be called so by her and her mother. In Malini, she found a sister she could actually claim and proclaim to the world. She loved her and wanted her to be happy. Now she has lost her own idea of love and her sister. She'd be able to move on from her fangirlish ideas of romantic love. But how does one move on from seeing your sister turn into a bloodthirsty zombie?

Please do not bring your pot-shots about Aditya's true and sacrificing love here. He only loved either women as far as they made him feel good about himself. He's the real titli

Because reading comprehension is so rare, I am editing to add that Aditya is no way responsible for what Malini did to him. What she did is unpardonable. Again, like I mentioned above, I do not empathasise with her.

But it is also true that Aditya, prior to the day of abuse, had been emotionally callous to her. And right now, he's emotionally cheating on Imlie. All three things are mutually exclusive to each other. I expect nuance from adults.

Such a well written analysis, my friend❤️I am Mili. I read this a few days ago, so wanted to reply, but just didn't have the bandwidth at the time to reply. I love debates, this gives different vantage points. If I may present a slightly different perspective.....

For the record, I sympathize with Malini. I do not agree with the things she had done. I, in fact reject all of her crude actions as the writers overzealously to bring her down to gain acceptance to the organic couple as they were portrayed back then. An innocent husband to a simple wife needs to be protected from a evil, rich step sister fits the bill😡 In the process, Malini becomes a human trafficker, kidnapper, terrorist, thief of rotis, to a molester to everything in between. I don't even know what else she had done.....

I see Malini is a very realistic character when the show started. She is the product of a dysfunctional family, a tether that held a very, bitter mother and a coward, adulterer father🤢. They probably fought their battles passive-aggressively through her. A very realistic scenario which we can see playing out in people around us if we look harder. I am sure Malini felt the undercurrents of bitterness throughout her childhood. There are many people still in a name sake marriage in these conditions for reasons best known to them. I won't judge those relationships at all.

So, she tries very hard to make her life very much unlike that of her parents. Both Adi guy and Malini enter into a friendship, courtship and decide to marry after 7 long years, Mind you this may be 1/3 or 1/4 of their ( both Adi and Malini) life time spent to make this decision. We are not privy to Adi guy's thoughts such as " oh man! she is manipulative, she is overbearing, she is contrived, yadaa, yadaa, yadaa....), so this must have been a good relationship. She is all for fairness and justice within her means. She tried to get her kamina dad and Adi guy to admit to wrong doing. She took the young, innocent girl from the village under her wing when she was subjected to undue hate and shown her the ropes. I feel this is a trait to be admired so much. When you become famous, there may be a bhajan sangh named after you, but when you are a nobody if someone shows consideration, this is the biggest help anyone can do for you. Anyway, gyaan aside, I feel that a woman who shuddered to think that she shared a bed with a married man ( she didn't know then), is made to molest that guy? Is this even believable? Not to me. Unless she is totally unhinged and insane has some psychiatric illness, does a reasonable person, who cared about fairness, sensible, be able to dip down to these unbelievable depths? What happens to their moral compass?

Instead, the writers decide to completely crumble this character. Even her existence, her birth is linked to her being a mere tool for Anu to keep the useless Dev in this marriage? How demeaning and humiliating is that? Her whole world crumbled from underneath her and took her right in!

I know the writers like everything either jet black or Surf white. Nothing in between is agreeable for them. I think this is what made a mess of the show. If they showed a reasonable progression of her character from rage, humiliation, to hurt to despondency and raising above this betrayal would have been a great watch. Then it becomes Malini's story na, not Imlie😒 That is why she went to the chopping board. Again, this is just my hypothesis🤓. I know nothing about nuances of story telling or lack there of.........

For the record, I had nothing against Imlie in the beginning. She is a victim of her najaayez parents ( in my book, no naajaayez children, it is kamina parents who put their helpless children in this situation ), victim of nakli naani's vile ways and victim of the villagers' atrocity against girl child. But when she started spewing self righteous rhetoric, I was unable to see her as a mere teenager but a stereotypical FL😡 Her story with Aryan would be a fun watch if they do it right. Because, how does a impulsive, firecracker, unexposed Imlie be polished all around by a more sensible, stable, responsible, experienced and suave Aryan with tough love❤️ That would be incredible. This is not to belittle Imlie, but she needs to come of age at some point and understand what is going on around her, rather than living in a bubble of " I am God, I can do anything, I can achieve anything, I am invincible". Well, that would be too realistic.

Sorry for the long and random rambling. I think I should shut up now, I know I am too opinionated for my own good😃I apologize if I hurt any sentiments here.

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