Is a lead supposed to be a Hero? Reminder page 8

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Okay I know I am inviting a lot of flak with this thread and also that I may be attacked on multiple sides with my opinion, but I could help but share my thoughts, specifically after reading some essays by recent converts.

One of the reasons I have always felt Imlie was different was because everytime I watched it, I could connect with it on a very basic level. While I agree that the situations shown are outlandish and illogical many times, but still the basic emotions and reactions seemed real and plausible to me, even with the current track.

Hence I would love to say today that I am happy that our show does not have any hero or villians. Our leads are not people who only exist on paper - they're real flawed people who make mistakes and suffer the consequences of their mistakes. Our leads are like regular people we find around us, just in extraordinary situations.

Take Imlie for example. She is a smart, brave and compassionate girl put in a situation not of her choice, yet making the best of it. She was forced to marry someone she had just met and knew was committed to someone else, which made her always feel guilty of taking something that was someone else's amanat. Adi continued to build that guilt over a very long period and that coupled with the fact that the person Adi was committed to is her own sister made the situation much more complicated. Yet Imlie never let that big her down. She lived her life the way she felt she should - king size. She earned love, relationships and support with her attitude and nazariya towards life. She felt horrible to lie to people who trusted her, and is still willing to hear their cruel and harsh words as a penance to that lie even today - though neither the situation nor the choice to be Adi's wife was solely only hers. While again the situations may seem outlandish and her saving Aditya and her doing her kaarname may seem too OTT for people, Imlie still feels real to me. She can be any normal, sweet 19 year old sometimes - just put in an extraordinary situation that none of us can ever imagine being put into. Her choices and reactions have always felt connected to her character that I could root for, as her core has always been genuine and good - is she a heroine in the traditional sense - of course not. Is she flawed - yes she is. But still we love her and root for her because her journey till date has been of someone who has come out of adversity to make something of themselves with the support of people earned due to their swabhav and attitude towards life.

Now to our most controversial character - Mr. Aditya Kumar Tripathi. Our lead who is as flawed as they come and is absolutely no hero. Then why, do you ask, that we are invested in his journey. Why do you ask that we do not boycott this story for showing "Adultery" and apparently influences people to follow him and do the same. Well because even if people do follow him from day 1, they will still learn a lot - both good and bad. AKT has been the most flawed and complex character I have seen on ITV. Reason being is that he has always been one to listen to his heart. He has had such a beautiful arc throughout these 230+ episodes, that you can see how he has grown as a person, which is something that we can learn from as an example. Adi is a regular person who makes mistakes and is facing the consequences of his mistakes, even today. Adi chose to ignore Imlie's warnings and thus had to marry her to save his life. He chose to get her to the city and landed up keeping her in his home - thus had to face the living embodiment of the zabardasti that he had to endure. He chose to deal with the hit to his ego in the worst way possible by constantly berating Imlie and making her feel horrible about herself and putting both of them in this impossible situation and had to be buried alive by Satyakaam to realise the impact that had to Imlie's psyche. He chose to hide the truth from Malini and get married to her and has to face the consequences of that choice even today, where Malini is hell bent on destroying his marriage with Imlie to get back to the days that Adi once promised Malini. Adi chose to get Imlie back everytime they seperated, which today has led them to form this beautiful sajhedaari where both experience the soul connect they have with each other. Adi chose to nibhao his marriage with Imlie because he realised that he loved her and today he is able to do so because he has proved time and again how important she is in his life. Adi chose to keep Malini in the dark and after telling the truth to carry on with their friendship, which today had fed into her delusions that assume that removing Imlie out of the equation will lead to Adi and Malini living their version of happily ever after. He hid the truth from his family and is facing the consequences of seeing his wife hear taunts from his mother for a choice he made.

So anyone who wants to say that Adi is a cheater and that supporting him is doubting our moral compass has clearly not seen this progression. Either they expect that Adi should be this upright, always correct, one toned, textbook hero - which he is definitely not. But is he a cheater - of course not. Did hi commit adultery - no way, he was married to both the ladies in his lives (I am not going into the legal and illegal wala argument here, coz that will never end). Did he commit bigamy - yes he did and he is still suffering the consequences of it even now. Should he have been sent to jail - ideally yes, but unfortunately that ship sailed a long time back, so there is no point in beating that dead horse.

I cannot complete this post without mentioning Malini as well. Malini's character has always been one who is supposed to be the person people will feel the most sympathetic for. She was supposed to be the beautiful, mature professor who unknowingly got pulled into the dynamics between Adi and Imlie through a choice made by Adi and her own decision to not follow through on the truth that Adi told her before marriage. Malini has always been given a free pass as she was the one who was wronged by the 2 people who she had apparently trusted the most (while that is definitely debatable - she had signs all around her but jaan bujhkar played ostrich and at last blamed the woman for a choice her husband had made), but her actions after the truth reveal are not ones that can be ignored. She chose to find out the truth about her father, promised Mitthi to give Imlie her rights, yet promptly ignored all that when it came to getting back what she felt was hers. She promised to give Adi a divorce and support Adi and Imlie to start a life together, yet has consistently made choices that are contradictory to that promise. She has time and again lied to both Adi and Imlie to further her cause of owning Aditya again, even if it is against his wishes. It is very easy to say that Malini is being made negative to show Adi and Imlie in a good light. Malini is turning her personality because that is who is actually is. She is someone who has been shakki, putting the blame on others for her predicament, manipulating others sentiments to make herself look good and even to an extent assuming that people owe her for being good and "sacrificing" her needs for them, even if they did not ask for it. Again Malini is also facing the consequences of her actions to choose to live in her delusions and not face the fact that Adi and her were never going to live happily ever after even if Imlie was not in the picture. That is why she is constantly facing rejection from him - he has clearly told her his feelings, but she chooses to ignore that to only believe something he once promised her without factoring in all his actions after. Here also Malini is flawed and someone not to be emulated - again the character is being used to show what happens when you choose to live in delusions to suit your purpose without facing reality.

So in conclusion all I want to say is that the fans of the show are very clear on why we are invested in the journey of Adi and Imlie - not because they are ideal or heroes, but because they are beautifully flawed humans who bring out the best in each other.

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Oh what a beautiful post Aps and I have reserved my spot to add my take on this topic a bit later 🤗 will be back as soon as the working day is compete to join in 😆


I will say this I have to agree with what you have said so far and more 😎


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Posted: 4 years ago
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Apne ko nahi chahiye righteous wala hero jo h thik h😆


That doesn't mean we justify his actions but that is what makes his character


Not only his but malini and Imaliya too👍🏼

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Superb post APS ji👍🏼

Couldn't agree more ..will come later to put my points about this topic ..


Edit: no one is perfect ..

so many people got attracted to this so because of this characters and their projections particularly Adi and Imlie..Adi is not like normal ML of ITV and Imlie too quite different than general FLs of ITV ..I'm saying this because I'm one of them ..it gives realistic touch to fiction ..


Here in story all lead characters came into the situation where their lives got tangled and it was no one's fault but the circumstances ..but then how you deal with it is always depends on your character your basic nature ..

Aditya did mistake by not revealing the truth of his marriage with Imlie in PD to his family but he didn't do it with any bad intentions or intentionally ..he was in very much chaotic situation and mental stress enough to decide anything wise and tried to fight against destiny but that doesn't make him criminal ..his marriage with DD was not to cheat her ..here too he tried his best to tell her before marriage but his bad that his would be wife is not strong enough to face reality and he too gave up for various reasons .. everything was out of his control that time because he is a normal human who has limitations..and yes he is a normal human not a god ..


He never tried to take advantage of any women in his life ..never forced any one to do as per his wish but yes so many times did something for others which he generally don't believe..tried best to make his marriage with DD successful and told Imlie to move on in her life..

But he fell in love with Imlie ..actually with her innocent pure nature ..it's called destiny..kismat ka likha yehi tha and human has no capabilities to change it . after realizing it he was ready to face any situation and never wanted to hurt DD ..staying in loveless marriage is worst than break up .. Imlie to tried her level best to do not become a reason of pain for her Badi bahen even though she believes in marriage by Sita mayya's ashirwad..

DD is a character who feels they are special one and other people should spend their lives to make them happy satisfy their egos ..she is the princess and other people are her slaves ..how can imlie gets Adi it's her main problem ..Adi was her prize possession nothing else ..she never cared for him nor the people related to him ..if you are truly in love then you never think a bit too go any extent for your loved ones..

DD never respected the people who loves her but always manipulated them for her selfish purposes..she is a person who can stoop down to any level..no values at all..

I would have respected DD if she openly fought with Adi even legal battle but no she chose to play dirty game with a person whom she called her choti bahen ..she lost there completely..

Edited by Panchhi1 - 4 years ago
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Posted: 4 years ago
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res


these 3 people are/ were victims of circumstances but how they dealt with the destiny's decision was a complete different story...


Ilie took the rishta that SM gave her and hated aditya for how he behaved with her but could never throw the symbols of marriage away... her faith had carried her threw the worst phase of her life.. she never backed down from fulfilling her duties even when there was nothing given in return. She has always been her true self to the world.. trusting, loving giving and chirpy.. after all she is 19..


People who have seen all of 236 episodes would probably agree here that she always hid her feelings for aditya even when she assumed he doesnt reciprocate them or even when did confessed that he loves her. She left T house twice so Aditya n Malini can have a life together.. she always choose hard path to walk when she was given a choice.. a teenager never tried to commit suicide.. never plotted against anyone.. always stepped aside n let world continue...


her only fault i would say is she should have been firm on her decision to stay away from aditya.. things would not have reached where they r..


AKT - I can write essays on him but i would only say.. he is a very regular guy.. who makes mistake but owns then too.. he didnt make any advances towards imlie even when imlie considered him husband.. same thing malini.. he has been very clear on who is and in his heart agree that he should have taken time to process what happened to him.. taken logical decisions.. may be should have called satyakam and figured out a way even when didnt want to talk to Ts... but he didnt do that.. doesnt make him monster.. just makes him human.. how many of us can narrate stories about being bullied in colleges or school.. we cant.. we want to hide from these memories..


consider alternate universe.. where imlie would have found love in college and aditya n malini would ahve still been together.. things would have worked out well for both of them.. jo rishta bana hi nahi uske hone na hoe se koi farak nahi padta.. but fate had a different story for them. he is navigating extremely uncharted territory right now and we might even feel some discnnect with his behaviour but i can only see him avoiding all the unnecessary meltdowns so he can reach to his destination Imlie


Malini - Malini was a victim till she didnt knnow what had happened to ADitya n imlie.. but currently she is not a victim but an abuser.. she is went to PD to find out about Imlies dad not to help imlie but to clear her won doubts.. she promised world to mithi n then imlie didnt deliver a bit.. she has seen like 20k times aditya doesnt have eyes for anyone but imlie still she wnats to rekindle what they had.. and both of them have such different memory of that they actually had for 7 years..


this 7 years have been major issue for everyone.. how can you leave someone after 7 years.. then the fact people should know that only 7 years have been wasted in a dead relationship rather than wasting another few on the same person who hurt you..


and a very basic human question - will malini be able to trust aditya even if he comes back to her (i am not saying he should or he will)


as per her own words.. he broke malini's trust.. so how does you mend the trust in all of this?

Edited by _Seera_ - 4 years ago
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Posted: 4 years ago
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Thank you for thread Aps ji.. I would say much needed😊

"Insaan hai to galti karega.. Aur apni galtiyo se seekhe aur use sudhare wo behtareen insaan hai" .. Trying to summarize in some words.. Best of people learn from their mistakes.. ADITYA KUMAR TRIPATHI's character sketch till now is maintained that way.. He might be a person with tunnel vision n the who takes every thing at face value.. But his marriage with imlie brought his different self which was not in case of Malini.. The contrast was shown from start..

Be it his getting impressed by her vision in their first meet in PD regarding her thoughts.. Forced marriage due to which he used to insult, scold n on regular basis remind imlie that she should be gone.. He was always HONEST.. He suddenly didn't fall in love with her overnight there was a journey.. He fell for all those qualities of imlie which his heart always craved for..

We appreciate him for his qualities to we will always call out for his wrong doings also.. He did commit bigamy but to punish him for that was defo Malini's call.. Which she didn't do on top of that she faked a story just to show how "MATURE and UNDERSTANDING" she is?? Adi chose to marry her but before marriage also he tried to say the truth.. But so called professor couldn't even take that n after marriage also wanted to keep burying her head in sand to hum kya kar sakte hai.. She could've confronted on her each suspicion but nahi wo inse nahi hota

Regarding Imlie she n Adi they were both forced into something they both didn't want but she remained committed n didn't even expect anything from anyone in return.. Unlike some ppl who even after getting explicitly informed want to force themselves on someone..

This show is fictional but they kept the ckts very much to real life.. But every now n then just blaming a single person for the whole situation.. Lyk seriously.. Everyone played their part in making things bad n worse but Adi Imlie are definately trying to make things better by rectifying their mistakes.. Thats what connected me to the show atleast after lyk a decade of trying to watch something dhang ka..

Edited by Juvvi9 - 4 years ago
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Posted: 4 years ago
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Originally posted by: FlowerHater

Apne ko nahi chahiye righteous wala hero jo h thik h😆


That doesn't mean we justify his actions but that is what makes his character


Not only his but malini and Imaliya too👍🏼

je baat!!


jo jaha galat woh point out kiya jayega aur jo jaha sahi usse waha points milenge...

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Great post apsvenky😎

All three protagonists made some choices and are facing the consequences of their choices. No character is completely dark and the conflict comes from the difficult situations they have to deal with. But Imliya is the hero of Imlie, Aditya is the heroine and vamp toh bohut sare hai depending on writer’s mood😆

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Originally posted by: jojo_mojo

Great post apsvenky😎

All three protagonists made some choices and are facing the consequences of their choices. No character is completely dark and the conflict comes from the difficult situations they have to deal with. But Imliya is the hero of Imlie, Aditya is the heroine and vamp toh bohut sare hai depending on writer’s mood😆

Oh agree on the classification completely 🤣.

But my point to post this today was because I was tired of people accusing the makers of ruining a character to paint the leads as being right. Kaun kehta hai that the leads are perfect or right all the time. That is not what made my sign up to watch. Why I decided to invest my time was because the leads are humans, thus have their own imperfections. But how they dealt their wrong choices and decided to stone for their sins - that was the journey I signed up to see. Agar mujhe perfect hero chahiye tha toh main Imlie dekhne toh pakka nahi aati and I am glad - perfect character are so boring and one toned - who would want to waste their time on that.🤷

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Wonderful WU Aps.. i am putting my gadda for now and will update later.


🤗


We love the show Imlie and for the FLAWED characters that are being portrayed who have the gumption to admit their mistakes and take steps to fix them. We do see some characters like on the small screen around us in real life as well and that is the USP of this show. Maybe some tracks are illogical and all.. but the cracking sparkling chemistry of SuMeer and their performances elevate the viewing experience.


I was going to stop with the first 2 lines and wrote a mini essay.. 😆

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