Logic v/s Faith

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Posted: 4 years ago
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The theme of today's episode was Logic v/s Faith......


We find Adi-Imlie at the mandir site guarding her precious diya while Babusahib grumbles about machhars etc.😆.....Imlie asks him to leave but he refuses, grumbling instead about how she'd rather prefer to play gitte with Prakash than have him stay with her😆....waah waah such subtly inserted jealous lines, Babusahib😆......there was so much quick back and forth going on b/w Adi-Imlie in the early half of that scene.....lol at one point he even told her ki hum yahaan TUMHARA khayaal rakhne aaye hain, diye ka nahin....and Imlie instead of pausing on that line, instantly retorted ki hum toh sirf diye ka khayaal rakhne aaye hain😆. So many slip-ups happening from Adi but Imlie doesn't get it😆.....


Not that I minded....the scene from that point transitioned into a larger discussion on logic and faith.....Adi questioned Imlie's logic for thinking that doing all these mannats will give him some kind of protection from any problems....he asks her she's always praying to her Sita Maiyya, then how did she get shot? 😆.....to which Imlie replies that you can't apply logic to everything......some things are beyond logic.....lol and then she gives the example of him calling her his wife in front of everyone...which "logically" would imply he's expressing a haq over her and she should also demand a haq in return from him then😆....but that's not the case is it? Babusahib had no response😆


And then she tells him that she runs on Faith....but then she muses again about how faith alone can't manage everything....even there a woman must make that extra effort....doing things like guarding a mannat ka diya all night to get the reward of her faith😆.


Adi babu ki self reflections were back today😆....wondering why his logic fails in front of Imlie😆....."humein Imlie ki baaton se itna farak kyun padta hai"? Oh FARAK is back again today, nice😆.....then he asks her again why this rishta matters to her so much when he's told her a bunch of times that he can't give her anything.....oh we're back to this again, Babusahib? Last few days ka amnesia ho gaya?😆.....maybe ask YOURSELF why this rishta is suddenly mattering to you so much? Imlie toh consistent hai is point pe....aap hi palte😆.....but she left it again at how she doesn't want anything but his happiness and his safety.....and that he stay happy with his family and Malini....Malini ke naam pe Adi ka haath jal gaya diye se😆.....symbolism alert again.....lol


I guess that alter-ego realization really didn't stick much😆.....when Imlie left to go fetch water, Adi was again musing to himself ki "Kuch bhi toh nahin badla"🤣....Filhaal hum Imlie ke saath hain, isliye uske baare mein soch rahe hain".....SURE SURE, Babusahib.....let's conveniently forget aap KAISE pahunche Imlie ke paas😆.....sad attempt at denial today, Babusahib...tch tch...."humaare mann mein jo pehle din Imlie ke liye feeling thi, abhi bhi wohi honi chahiye".....All the best, Babusahib.....keep trying😆


Two seconds of denial and then Babusahib rushes to protect the flame of Imlie's diya😆....Imlie asks him to throw it away cuz it's hurting him....there's no logic to holding on to something that's hurting you.....aha metaphor alert😆....and Babusahib very calmly flips her own gyaan back on her and says, "Kuch cheezin logic par nahin vishwaas pe chalti hain"😆....."Tum apna vishwaas humaare bharose chhod ke gayi thi.....agar tum chahti ho ki yeh na bujhe toh hum bhi ise bujhne nahin denge".....and that's the sum of it....he will bear any pain but he won't let go of this rishta.....Imlie even questioned him that it's MY faith, MY rishta....why are you holding on to it if it's causing you so much pain.....but he just can't let go😆


Imlie finally managed to find another diya toh put the flame in😆....and then tried to put geeli mitti on Adi's burnt hands but he resisted initially ki septic ho jaayega😆....to which Imlie replies ki aapko achha lagega😆.....pause for symbolism alert again.....Adi ke haath jalenge is rishte ko sambhaalne mein but the ointment for that is also Imlie.....the way she locked her hand over his to spread the mitti onto the burn to soothe him....lovely shot......and then ofcourse when she asked him again to go back home since he's done enough for her, Adi still keeps holding on to her hand even as she tries to get up😆. Ab koi Babusahib ko puchhe ki ismein bhi kya logic tha? 😆.....but he won't have a response as usual😆


ROFL@ Babusahib thinking in the end ki jaana toh hai hi, humaare paas yahaan rehne ki koi wajah hi nahin hai🤣.....bhai AANE ki bhi kya wajah thi, woh samajh paaye abhi tak kya tum? 😆


Kinda got the sense that they rebooted some of the themes of the week in terms of Adi's denial but overall these were still lovely scenes :)


Malini-wise....kya bolun😆.....she's getting more hysterical over every perceived thing as a symbol of her relationship burning down....and she is falling apart thinking she can still fix it.....Adi's gonna come back to some fun things to deal with....phir pata chalega ki kya badla hai😆


Precap mein Adi Maharaj ne ab bol diya hai ki Imlie ke saath rehna unki marzi, aadat aur zaroorat hai😆....iska "logic" hum jab aayega tab samjhenge😆


At the current pace, we will definitely be in PD all of next week at a minimum😆.....mainly cuz even though Adi-Imlie are in PD, we still get so much Delhi related drama stuffed into every epi😆

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Dhappa

Loved the adi imlie side of things kya hai yeh adi babu just when one starts to think ke maybe just maybe am trying to understand him he goes onto playing flip flip deny but like increase the frequency ke ek hi scene main 4 baar flip maare

🤣 From denial to holding on to denial to holding on real strong to being hurt over imlie telling him to let go of rishta toh uska hai why is he suffering to hold onto it and he should go back.. ek min flow main bolte hain ke hum toh tumhara khyal rakhne aaye giving round about hints about how imlie is sheheri now showing his haq and imlie ka status elevation due to this rishta and then going no nothing has changed for me and mere same feelings hone chahiye pehle jaise 🤣 so he admits ke ab same same nahi hai and also admitted ke isko farak padta hai of everything imlie.. well chalo thank God . Yay for the return of farak and dard added now with the whole dia burning hand thing but hum jheleinge


The girl on the other hand is also getting confused by his twisted logic wale points and then going far and beyond for her vishwaas yet she manages to hide her dard and tells him she has accepted her fate it is what it is she will keep holding onto her vishwaas she ain't coming back no matter how much he tries and maybe it is time for him to leave too which unravels him again into first physically holding onto her for a moment in impulse and then slowly letting go but tearing up and going ab toh koi wajah hi nahi reh gayi aww babusahib.. if only you can go beyond your denials and observe your own behavior you will know the wajah of it...


The complexity of adi ke conflicted emotions beautifully shown by GM again today.. and imlie endearing as ever I toh always am latoo over her quality of simplifying itna complicated things itni aasani se jaise koi mushkil baat toh hain hi nahi yeh baatein samjhna.. the way she put her side again was so heart touching ek dum seedhi baat no bakwaas painful yes but brutally honest and ST again does it with so much earnesty one can't help but feel and connect with imlie and want to protect her .. she makes me want to go into the screen and give her hugs 🤗😔


The faith vs logic was presented so nicely and I loved the flip 2 secs pehle logic pe gyaan dene wale babusahib ka vishwaas pe belief caz imlie ka belief hai and agar imlie ka belief hai toh he will do anything to not break it... jitna bhi dard Hoga he will bare it.. he himself couldn't reason as such why is he holding on except imlie ka wish haibeoh maanti hai little does he acknowledges ke yeh khud bhi maanta hai rishta bhi and ab yrh rituals bhi caz she made him beleive In them and woh breaking off moment se darta hai one can clearly see how his rang udoes the moment imlie mentions ke bas the end ho gaya hai ab jaane ka waqt aa gaya hai or when she denies his roundabout tries to manao her again to come with him and stops him right in the way. How well she understand him and now he is also doing that for her .. baat wohi hai ke iski zaroorat and marzi is taking over.. majboori kuch aur ban raha hai.. he just cannot even think of anything beyond imlie right now no matter how much she tries to push him in the other direction he is coming out even stronger to hold onto what is here


Point to be noted again imlie barely left for say 4, 5 mins and he got restless again ke jhalli kahan chali gayi.. this is the man who thinks he can live without her and it is just temporary restlessness and attachment caz he is with her sure sure koi bhi temporary ke liye aise nahi haath Jala ke bhaitha... beautifully done metaphors today and foreshadowing on how much he will insist on holding on and protecting his bond with imlie she may resign herself and accept it as her destiny and fate and might even manage to live on her own but isse hi nahi hoga.. he will fight till the very end till he gets what he wants. once again imlie being shown so much emotionally and mentally stronger than this pahaad jaise patrakar sahib who is so emotionally vulnerable that just the thought of this coming to an end make him behave like a kid wanting to keep his fav thing with him the way he makes though pleading puppy eyes to her wanting to keep her close awww

Edited by naadanmasakalli - 4 years ago
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Posted: 4 years ago
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Caps on the diya guarding 😆







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Posted: 4 years ago
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hum awaath hain

Ek mannat to Shivji for Aditya's rakshaa, unke upar jo sankat tha, to get rid of the evil eye on her husband.

It was the first thing, Imlie did upon landing in PD, after making the choice to leave Dilli. She prayed for Aditya and then met her amma and dadda. It was her faith that made her do it in the first place. She never asked SM anything for herself, it was all about Adi's happiness, his safety, his family. She has proved this during her stay at Dilli and Adi was clueless of her intent, he was focused on the unfairness of his 'nakli rishta' or forced shaadi, how the choice was taken away from him, so he blamed Imlie for all his misery as he did not want to acknowledge that both of them were wronged, not just him. It is what you make of what is handed to you that matters, how one deals with the lemons handed out.

Tumne yeh mannat rakhi hai to theek hi ki hai - BS is feeling pleased that Imlie kept mannat for him, even though he is protesting too much 🤣 that he does not believe in such things.. 😆 He expressed the real reason for staying back with Imlie, to ward off the evil eyes of that Pari.😆 Imlie has accepted and made peace with the fact that she will not get anything from BS as he was so fond of reminding her everyday. Now he is faced with the prospect of returning alone and feeling that 'gutan' all over again. IT was such a quick back n forth flip today.. talking on deep topics like logic, faith and how her words affect him so much and why. No one has ever challenged him like Imlie does and she does have a way of connecting with him, her words touch him deeply, leaving a lasting impact.

Today we had many major words like Haq, vishwaas, logic. Again Imlie clearly stated she is not returning to Dilli and asked him to go home. The way he was holding onto the wick, in his palm, very symbolic, does not want Imlie to lose her faith in SM or for him. The way she rubbed mud on his palm to soothe the burn and felt his pain too, trying to absorb it if she could, was so well done by ST. when Adi was grasping her hand tightly, never wanting to let go, he had to reluctantly like a petulant child, whose toy has been snatched away. GM's expressions were spot on.

He missed her already when she went to get water and he was like where is this jhalli.. how is he going to survive without seeing her. He is going to get mad at Imlie as the time for him to leave draws closer. He again used his haq on her - dont talk to your elder like that.. waise Imlie is good at devising painful punsihment for her NN.

I had posted yday or recently on why NN acts the way she does - it was to keep Imlie suppressed,uneducated and live her life in fear, shame...like she has made Mithi's life to be. As mIthi pointed out, cannot subdue a sharp talent like Imlie much as NN tried, it cuts through and leaves one bleeding. She has risen higher despite the shackles and fly she will now, with Adi's support and her education.

I loved the fact that Aparna saw Imlie first and then her kids.. poor T's. Rest of the brigade missing and good act by MD, who sobbed like a child when their wedding pic burned.. skipped thro'..mostly

Tomorrow - Marzi, Aadat and Zarrorat hai.. so he is making it clear that he will not return without her.. he will find a way.. make Imlie choose to return.. he did give her the freedom to make the choice. 😆

Edited by nim_var - 4 years ago
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Posted: 4 years ago
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Babusahib's "Silsila yeh chaahat ka na maine bujhne diya" moment😆



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Posted: 4 years ago
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Mosquitoes....the struggle is real 😆


Nice analysis as always 👍🏻


Choice, habit and need....the words this patrakar uses, does he even realize how heavy they are.

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Posted: 4 years ago
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This is what happens when you(BS) constantly rebuke a person(imlie), try to shun them at each step telling them that you can never be theirs & then when they accept the same,fate smirks at you by making you fall for the very same person while the person owing to their acceptance fail to pay any heed to your jealousy,expressions,thaame rakhna haath,gatte,batte stuff🤣Today I loved Adi's haath thaame rakhna after the septic thing..Mayuri too acted very well today!

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Posted: 4 years ago
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I loved the way imlie explained ki har cheez me logic nahi chalta. Adhi cheezen life me vishwas se hi chalti hain and the other 50 percent is turning your vishwas into yakeen. Reminds me of the 5th or 6th episode where imliya said adhi kahani tho khudh ki likhni padti hai. Shayad yeh dono milke apna aadha taqdeer khudh ki likhenge. Symbolisms all the over the place during their convo like you said. The precap again is the subconscious reaction to nanis taane towards his jhalli. Usne iske andhar ki sher ko jaga dala jo imlie ke liye bohot hi possessive feel karta hai. Agar koi imliya ki taraf aankh utaake bhi dekhega tho he will rip that person apart. I have an uncomfortable feeling that they are gonna make malini psycho like her mummy. Hoping and praying that is not the case.

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Originally posted by: AreYaar

Babusahib's "Silsila yeh chaahat ka na maine bujhne diya" moment😆




He ij the paro to imlies devdas😆

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Can i just give a shout out to sumbul for the mindblowing acting in the logic convo scene👏👍🏼. Also some huggies 🤗 to the writer for giving us yet another great episode.

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