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Posted: 10 years ago
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logic...sense..continuity ki to jaisi charas bone ki kasam khake rakhi hai humare cv's ne 🤬
I loved todays episode...it made me happy ...very very happy...because after i dont know how long...i guess first time after the birthday epi we got a whole epi filled with saaz...my shayar sahir...my foodie HC...my smiley sahir...and understanding aarzoo...the epi had some really good highpoints which could make u watch it over and over again...

but it was too rushed...too out of place...it was like pehle thriller forcefully ghusa rahe the for trp...aur ab romance for audience...

I mean agar track dhang se close nahi kar sakte toh kholna kyu?

So many things about sahir are forgotte...burnt toast...kadi chawal...his hatred for rain...mangoes...

suddenly he is smiling and joking...characterization and consistency ka kya? only by the logic u've given it makes sense nads...otherwise sahir ki to charas bo di.!!

The kiss scene i felt was too out of place...and frankly un-necessary...dala bhi to...such bad editing...it should have been slo-mo...not the speed of rajdhani express...

he got shot and he is on the couch? Where is the bandage?

Wo choro...they got poisoned...where was the doctor treating them? where are the after effects? Leads ki jaan jana is such a silly track kya that they dont need to close it? yo-yo ki investigation usse zaruri thi?

She said so many heavy duty dialogues about humsafars and all...yet they sleep on seperate beds? can someone please explain to me why?

and how come over night aarzoo has become shayar? aaj tak to meine use kabhi nahi dekha shayari kehte ya sunte hue...maane kuch bhi daal dete hai...

after everything...even the promise...all of sahirs pain was still bottled up...then what was the point? and the way he went away from the break fast was too abrupt...

and i hate hate hate the editing department...KG kids could do a btr cut paste job...they inter-mix diff kinds of music...they dont know where to cut the scene...they dont know what pace which scene should be...its just one big mess ... These people are ruining such good scenes and acting with their stupid silly mistakes 😡


Aisa lag raha tha...two episodes worth of stuff ek episode mei cram kar diya ho...




Dont get me wrong...i loved the epi...cause anyday i prefer logic-less saaz to logic-less ka/2rs/yo-yo/etc etc any day but still thora logic and reason wouldnt do anyone any harm...especially the trp janta...
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: tirchinazar


You stole the words from me. I kept quiet thinking that forumwallahs will bash me up for not liking the changed Sahir. I am pretty sure he is acting to make Arzoo feel better. There is more to Sahir's story which Arzoo will not know. Sahir is not going to open to Arzoo so fast. Remember in one episode, Sahir did say something like "I cant keep you close due to my past and cant keep you away as well". That will be the basis of their relationship. And why did he storm off when Zeenats name was taken. Remember Zaki also said once "Bhai, you have fallen in love and you know the emotion too". So does it mean that Sahir was deeply in love with Zeenat too?


Yes even that's what I feel sahir cannot develop so much pain unless he has loved zeenat that deeply.And when zaki asked even he was in love he thought it was zeenat but sahir thought of arzoo at that time .I feel it is true that he loved zeenat a lot more than expected which has completely left him devastated and wounded.It looks like sahir and zeenat were childhood sweethearts and this completely destroys saaz for me🤢
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Sahir is hard to guess right from the start arzoo did mention every minute he changes so true to his nature he wares mask while talkng on phone his tone was different arzoo commanding him he had a child like attitude then again changed masked listening zeenats name .
He has this bad past so it's not easy for him to forget and arzoo is in his life he doesn't want her to know about it basically he doesn't want her to bother her to top it he has tensions in his life from office to arzoo life in danger zeenat back deal not done so many things going in him in all angles .
Arzoo is like calm zone for him she infact brings peace in him .
Ya kiss was not required but sahir goes physical always from jungle scene to birthday scene to pool scene he always is touchy towards arzoo because he crave for her warmth mentally and physically .
It's ok guys at least some candy to us instead of godrej ad and ka crap this was cool sazilious episode
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Posted: 10 years ago
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HC adds so many subtleties to his expressions////we didnt even get to see half of them...akhir kis janam ka badla le rahe hai editors humse 😭
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Dear Soaps and fellow commenters...watched the epi on daily motion and am so glad this thread was started..yes it was heaven having saaz but it seemed abrupt,hurried and forced...even saaz though they did fabulously were not at their peak...sahir at times looked distinctly uneasy and he is adorable as cute Sahir but the bridge has been crossed too abruptly...whats cooking at the cvs end i wonder?
That tension,tautness yet akhonwala love was not there😕
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Posted: 10 years ago
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When sahir was forcing himself to eat fruits his expression was similar to the one when he ate paratha bcoz of arzoo .earlier it was pretending but this time it was process of accepting...
That is not real sahir for sure but he is leaving no stone turned to make arzoo happy . He is still not ready to open his dark past to her... still not comfortable to share his sorrows ...but he is happy by the love poured by arzoo and he don't want to hurt her .


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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: dakshaavi

When sahir was forcing himself to eat fruits his expression was similar to the one when he ate paratha bcoz of arzoo .earlier it was pretending but this time it was process of accepting...

That is not real sahir for sure but he is leaving no stone turned to make arzoo happy . He is still not ready to open his dark past to her... still not comfortable to share his sorrows ...but he is happy by the love poured by arzoo and he don't want to hurt her .



That is what i feel it was too ... a mask he wore for her happiness ... but some where in execution, direction and editing it should have been made obvious ... it wasn't ... you felt something missing because this thing was not executed where u understood it clearly ... like someone said showing his thought process at some point may have helped ... the pratatha scene it was clear, he did not want to eat it ... we understood it how it was ... today there was something amiss in execution ... this time he was acting childish not wanting to eat ... that time the emotions showed ... and they were deep so relateable

The fruit scene for me was not sahir ... totally out of char even if he was pretending it for her happiness ... the sahir before and after that still makes sense but fruit wala scene was out of place
Edited by Soaps1 - 10 years ago
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Thank you soaps for posting views. Today's episode watched online battling snow closures. It was ridiculous. Very amateurish presentation of the transformations after all the character highs over months and the latest thriller drama. Cutesy takes away the intensity.
Will still continue to watch. HC is good reason to be hooked but shivya has been catching up
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Posted: 10 years ago
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It's a sensible post that relates to a show that isn't sensible at all. So far there has not been a reason to prove that creatives have any creativity in them apart from casting Harshad Chopra. People may simply hate me but I truly don't appreciate Arzoo's acting. Everything is so monotone. So I simply take it as they give it to me in the name of Harshad :)
But I can appreciate ur smartness and logic. Do u write FFs?
Edited by basicquestion1 - 10 years ago
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: Soaps1

Ok i know everyone is happy that the epi was full of SaAz trust me so am i ... and everyone is oggling at the "Romance" and no one is going to like what i am about to write but thats' ok am used to being the bad one among the lot😆

And what i am about to do is not a criticism either ... but more a different kind of analysis ... may be an attempt to understand the episode

First thing first i felt the kiss scene was misplaced ... i mean there was not enough build up to justify it in the scene before that ... she hugged him in fear ... he is concerned ... reassures her ... they both tell the other u risked life for me ... it was an emotional moment i feel ... and the kiss was some how misplaced ... if it was shown after the 2nd hug after door closing ... and the talk may be it would have made more sense (my apologies in advance agar mey ney kisi romanticbaaz ke rang mey bhang dala😆)

Then the sudden change of behaviour in Sahir ... the only explanation i can think of is that sahir again wore a mask ... this time a mask of happiness ... else the sudden change in behaviour makes no sense ... he is over whelmed by arzoo's care for him no doubt in that ... but the way he was acting is not the Sahir we know off ... it felt too abrupt ... the cuteness and all ... so i feel he was wearing a mask for arzoo's sake for her happiness ... to let her enjoy that authority over him .. obviously the emotions were real since he does love her and is affected by her but the over joy was part of the mask he wore for her sake ... brushing aside his pain once again ... because else the sudden change in character makes no sense ... his pain is too deep ... and it can't vanish just like that

In fact when arzoo leave for kitchen and he turns his face smiling the smile fades, editor did a bad job by abruptly cutting but me being the old HCbaaz caught that in time ... then when he laid down to sleep from smile to bit seriousness

Also when arzoo talked about pain .. he did not break .. he still did not share ... and all but tried to brush it aside ... though arzoo kept saying his pain matters to him ... and he wont hide his pain ... that is exactly what he did by being over joyous is what i feel ... his pain is too deep ... to vanish so soon ... to share so abruptly ... so Sahir Azeem Chaudary played along ...though genuinely touched by her love and concerns for him ... he is still not ready to bother her with his pain which has held him captive for so many years! ... in fact i feel the hungry thing was to deviate attention from his pain ... to buy himself sometime because he was being over powered by emotions!

The breakfast scene was the most out of character and abrupt out of the rest of the lot ... they should have caught some emotion ... swallowing emotion may be ... something atleast to make it look relateable

If this is not what it was ... then i am sorry but i could not relate to Sahir's sudden change of behaviour! Specially the breakfast scene that was like a 360 degree abrupt turn ... the intensity Sahir is known and loved for can't vanish with one scene

One more thing the <font size="3">burnt toast ... </font><font size="2">he used to eat it for a reason not out of joy right? Then i feel there should have been a hint of emotion when arzoo made fun of burnt toast ... even if he later covered it up trying to look all fine ... because burnt toast have been a symbol of his pain from the beginning and arzoo making fun of them and his showing no emotion at all was a little senseless i feel ... i do agree he may not want to show that emotion to arzoo but that is why i said it should have been there even if for fraction of a second</font>

<font size="2">Again my apology in advance to anyone who is not going to like this but i am a sucker for characterization and good story and i want that when i see Sahir and SaAz ... romance too one can only enjoy when it makes sense</font>

<font size="2">P.S: he was shot right? The bandage is gone over night ... and he is made to sleep on the pool chair? Like seriously?🤔</font>

<font size="2">Some consistency in characterization and story telling ... some logic ... some consideration ... some continuity won't harm anyone trust me</font>



@Soaps1:
I agree. I had mentioned in one of my posts in the morning today that the Creatives cannot change the character of Saahir overnight. Personality changes happen over a period of time and yet some traits remain. Even a sense of humor has a right time and place, else its lost in translation. 😕 "Kahaan they hum"?? What was that? I couldn't laugh, if that was humor!! A kiss (I didn't feel anything!- Sorry) was probably on the cards and Aarzoo walks off to close the door saying someone is out to harm Saahir. Then pl pack your bags and go to Timbaktu. I would hav liked it better if she had shyly moved away and slowly moved towards the door to bolt it and turned to look straight at Saahir. The scene would hav been more effective w/out any dialogues. The kiss was def misplaced!!!

Twenty minutes of only Saahir and Aarzoo and I found the chemistry missing. Sorry folks. Lastly, the shayari. To read it out ya phir arz karne ke liye, you need a good baritone. Saahir is a shayar and has a fairly deep voice, but maybe its been 7 yrs, so I hav to forgive him. He needs to practice how to read out /belt out shayaris esp the famous ones. Pause, look, feel and then speak. Urdu diction was missing...😕

I was disappointed with the episode.


-Rekha

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