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Posted: 10 years ago
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Superb summary.. Loved the way you articulated.. This is really the beginning of humsafars journey..
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Vish 😃l
Thanks a lot for putting it in a nut shell 👏..n with lovely take from u 😳

So I guess the major issue this week was less sahir n SaAz n the dominance of silly things especially the product endorsing ..which was too OTT ..

Anyway the fact remains tht sahir shot n ARZOO worked took the Cake for me ..it was very very well done n both shivya n HC were Brillaint
I would love it if they compete the SaAz scene n also make the SaAz moments more elaborate

And I don't know KA n Zeenat are hand in glove or not but they defo seem to be hiding more than they let on ESP KA

I don't get it wht is the fetish of the ph with all negative characters ..they are So many n they do come across as confused n over lapping .lfor instance why would Alvira not support her down daughter n love zaki to death ..n why KA has a thing for Zeenat n sahir then 😲

Anyway I do hope they tie up the lose ends n give us more SaAz licious n Meaningfull epis 😳
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Posted: 10 years ago
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VD you know what you did?... you focused on SaaZ n the progression of their relationship and suddenly one realizes what a beautiful story we have.
if it were presented properly with the other characters n elements of course... but conceptualized n presented properly they would have a cult show on their hands.
i loved this post. 😃
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Posted: 10 years ago
#14
V,
As always, you threaded the bits and pieces of saaz story scattered over the week ...and what a beautiful product U have come up with!👏

Love this thread...😳

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Posted: 10 years ago
#15

Originally posted by: pearly14

VD 😃 Your post was the first thing I read this morning and as usual I love your writing style.

TWTW 😆 liked the abbreviation !

Thanks 😆...was getting hard to put in short titles and "the week that was" was taking up too much space! 😆...thank you are for compliment on writing style! :-)

Getting to the point now. I agree with you totally on Aarzoo's realisation. We have to understand that she has never been portrayed as a bright person , so it did take a while and a zor ka jatka for her to realise that she married him because she loved him and not for the money. But I think what was more important to her was she now knew for sure that he loved her , more than his own life. Its not her fault though that she couldn't see this before. How can a not so bright person understand the conflicting words and actions of the great SAC ?

Yep, key thing is that she has discovered that he loves her. However i do agree with you (i think you mention it later) that i would still like to see Sahir discuss the last few weeks with Arzoo and explain why he did what he did. He needs to tell her that she has had feelings for her for a while, but knew that he didn't have a right to feel that way because he was already married and having her as a second wife was something he couldn't inflict on her. But he also needs to mention that he didn't realise how strong these feelings were until Zaki started voicing his feelings and thats when the saga started...

Another scene I totally loved was the one where she stopped him from hurting himself. She infact said that I cannot permit you to hurt yourself , meaning now he has to take permission from her and he of course surrenders. We have seen this many times now , that the minute she starts using her authority Sahir always surrenders, the ointment applying scene , the scene where she says thank you to him in the office , the one when the candle wax falls on her hand , and now the one where she stops him from getting up. He is content that she cares enough to do this and she doesn't exploit the fact that he actually listens to her and uses it only when he stops being reasonable. She had total "haq" over him , even before the wedding. Only thing is he cannot tolerate when she takes rights over someone else like Zaki, he is really possessive. Not only does he want her to be his , its equally important for him that she is totally his.

Yep, absolutely, she uses it sparingly, only when she needs to. And yes, he is extremely possessive...thats one of the things that i love about him...he can do some amazing things like treat Zeenats family as his own, but then he displays a lot of 'princely' traits...possessiveness for Arzoo being one of them, even though technically at the time, he had zero rights because he hadn't even confessed his feelings...in fact he had said the opposite to her, that she didn't matter to him!

Next coming to the part where she cries on Alvira's bed. She has now started putting Sahir before everything else including herself which is very significant. The scene where she sucks out the poison, although illogical is another reinforcement of this.

The thing with Arzoo is that she has always been very self righteous, which has many times annoyed me about her because she has been pretty black and white about things...for example supporting Zaki and not really feeling the need to provide and explanation to Sahir, thus making matters worse. But as you say, she is putting herself in Sahirs shoes and seeing the world from a different perspective. Even her questioning why Alvira doesn't seem to care enough is significant improvement...before she wouldn't have recognised the grey. Now she does. 👏

SP has improved significantly and infact if we go back and watch the earlier episodes it will feel like its a different person we are watching. HC ... simply brilliant, show him for 2 minutes and he steals the show !

yes indeed...she is much more at ease in the romantic scenes in terms of body language, i just loved the wet hair scene and the way she was flirting with him...very good indeed.

Yes, Harshad Chopra has been cast perfectly for this role...his look, he voice, his acting, he is Sahir Azeem Chaudary...and his screen presence in this avtaar is powerful. I have seen clips of some of his other serials, and i don't think his presence is as powerful as this one...the mature role suits him very well!
Already a long reply VD, just one last thing , if they kiss , they will not stop at that 😳 , the kiss and the consummation will come together I am sure , there is no holding back now from either of them 😉

Actually, you are right...again, one of the traits of Sahir i love is that he is fire and passion personified. This man is like a latino lover! Even though he does love Arzoo, he also finds are extremely physically attractive...him wanting to kiss her is because he wants to express his deep feelings but i agree...i don't think he would be able to stop at that...and not her either for that matter! 😆

Let us hope that the TRP's increase and some of the negative aspects of the show are cut down !

Yes i hope so...with all the bloopers, its still a fabulous show because the casting as been fab and the characters being portrayed are wonderful...i even love the supporting cast!

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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: Soaps1

Lovely write up ... loved reading it

And agree shiviya was very natural in all the scene where it mattered ... honestly seeing the BTS videos i wasn't sure about the impact of the scenes as they were shot from weird angles ... but she was awesome ... as for HC he is tou always great even if they show him for a few seconds, he just knows how to own a scene

I do wish though they show SaAz in a bit more detail ... and i do hope we get an explanation some where down the line that why Sahir forced arzoo to marry him that is still unresolved, i mean we do understand the why and have analysed it too but I still want them to tell that story!

Also I wish they had shown some flashbacks of his loneliness that arzoo had noticed earlier (like the lashing marks etc. or his dialogues about how money runs the world) when she realized how lonely he is yesterday, it would have been a lot more impactful!


Ah, replied to the wrong person on the highlighted point! Sorry, getting old!! 😆, so totally agree with this point...when we are talking about Sahir/Arzoo heart to heart, i want it to start with his background, but then move onto the horrible turn of events that lead to their nikaah. I want Sahir to provide his explanation and reasoning to Arzoo...to say that he wasn't allowed to have these feelings for her because he was married, and so was always in denial and it wasn't until Zaki expressed his feelings and wrongly told Sahir that Arzoo felt the same that he started feeling betrayed for some reason and then jealousy/possessiveness set in. I also want him to apologise to her...he has done it in private and to a sleeping Arzoo, but i want him, for himself to tell her that he never meant for her to get tangled in all of this and that this guilt leads to the self mutiliation (again, something he has yet to open up on)...i really really want to see this CVS!!!!!!! 😊

Yes indeed, the same way the prayer scene had love flashbacks, it would certainly have been more impactful to have a realisation scene on his pain...this may still come, fingers crossed!

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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: Soaps1

P.S: I wish they remove the head horn permanently though ... she looked so damn pretty in the blue suit and that make-up ... i would love that look to continue



AMEN TO THAT!!! I would like to take this opportunity to rant! (thank you Soaps!) Why do they need to dress her like she is on the way to her sisters wedding! nobody else in NH dresses that heavy, including Anam's curtain creations! And what's worse, is that Shivya actually looks MORE BEAUTIFUL in simple attire! She looked fab in the blue dress during the wet hair screen - no tikka, no earrings, just make up and a simple embroidered suit...she looked fab. I actually didn't like the pink dress and tikka she wore during the shooting...it really was too heavy...she was just hanging about in the house!

I am so happy that the near kiss scene is taking place at night...she looks lovely in those cotton dresses too...the only thing i didn't like were those wide trousers she used to wear, so happy she is now wearing different styles every day, but just need to tone done on the heaviness of the clothes AND lose the tikka!! We have luckily had a few days without it, but it keeps creeping back now and then!!😡😡😡
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Posted: 10 years ago
#18

Originally posted by: tarakahini

VD just loved your analysis- as always clear succinct and a joy to read.

Enjoyed the comments aswell.
Guys you rock.


Thank you my dear! Indeed the best thing about posting the analysis are the comments you get. Whether people agree, disagree, or offer a different view point...its always great to read! This is all fiction at the end of the day, and i do sometimes wonder if the CVs think as hard as we do, but still its fun to take the story to another level!! 😆
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: ecrivain



Vish 😃l
Thanks a lot for putting it in a nut shell 👏..n with lovely take from u 😳

So I guess the major issue this week was less sahir n SaAz n the dominance of silly things especially the product endorsing ..which was too OTT ..

Anyway the fact remains tht sahir shot n ARZOO worked took the Cake for me ..it was very very well done n both shivya n HC were Brillaint
I would love it if they compete the SaAz scene n also make the SaAz moments more elaborate

And I don't know KA n Zeenat are hand in glove or not but they defo seem to be hiding more than they let on ESP KA

I don't get it wht is the fetish of the ph with all negative characters ..they are So many n they do come across as confused n over lapping .lfor instance why would Alvira not support her down daughter n love zaki to death ..n why KA has a thing for Zeenat n sahir then 😲

Anyway I do hope they tie up the lose ends n give us more SaAz licious n Meaningfull epis 😳


Hey Ecrivain - Thanks and glad you liked it! 😊
So there are three key points you have made here:

1) Thumbs up to Saaz progress, although elaboration would have been good
Yes, so the saaz scenes were ironically the saving grace. Its clear, that a lot of thought is going into these scenes..so actually think they purposely kept the scenes a little brief, purely because the big bang is coming...Sahir hasn't actually opened up to Arzoo on anything yet, and when Arzoo tells him that she knows he is an orphan, it could be the trigger needed for Sahirs walls to come crumbling down...then i expect we should get some more intensity and elaboration between the two. As i mentioned to Soaps, i want to see Sahir express his feelings for Arzoo...properly...he hasn't actually told her his loves her, outside of the whole charade...i think its time for Sahir to open his heart to Arzoo on his feelings for her.

2) Ridiculous fillers
The medical inaccuracies have been shockingly ridiculous, this has actually disappointed me more than anything. Arzoo's injection scene with Zeenat was just embrassing! I mean, medicine is one of the most popular career options for Indians! If they make anything a little reaslitic its this! In terms of the brand endorsement, i was actually ok with it. It was ridiculous..but HS has been on the verge of being shutdown...they probably got a lot of money to dedicate an entire epi to Godrej and they probably need the cash...we haven't had an outdoor since the jungle scene and they hardly ever leave NH and office...if they want to develop the story and want to have scenes outside of these places (like a fashion show, a party, a trip), they need cash. But i hoping with an increase in TRPs, they can space out such endorsements and the ads during the breaks can charge more.

3) thriller plot potentially unplausible
Indeed, there are potential holes, but i will let them play it out before i comment. With regards to Alvira, it could well be that Zeenat was no longer under her control and KA called the shots, leaving her feeling guilty about Zeenats betrayal with Sahir. Could be KA built a wall between mother and daughter...or of course its all an act in front of Sahir and secretly she is very concerned about Zeenat. I simply don't know. I also need ACP Rathod to do more...he is good, and if they want fillers, it should be with him and not Arzoo walking around injecting someone...how about the ACP works with Arzoo and Sahir on this?

Thanks!
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Posted: 10 years ago
#20
Just looove this thread...fab analysis...relevant comments...
You clear all our and the cv's confusions Vish...do hope they(cvs) read this...you can provide a structure and foundation to anything...keep them coming :)

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