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Posted: 10 years ago
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I agree with you whole heartedly. I FEEL it is arzoo's first love,she is hurt bcos of his recent rude behavior,pushing her to ground ,talking about fake people,overruling her concern for his wound.after KA Fiasco she entered his room ,he blasted her with his accusatory tone ... That was to much for arzoo who we know is short tempered... So the rest is history
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Hi Sush... Yes .I agree that feeling is very important is as seeing from the POV of both characters.. So here goes...
I FEEL... Happy that Sahir is a man who introspects and comes to a conclusion... He recalled instances of arzoo reacting.. Some extreme ones... And despite the damning evidence he had seen at the hospital.. Despite her silence... He trusted her... She didn't come to him.. He asked her why she kept quiet... Telling her he knows she is not one to suffer injustice... Meaning he knows that what happened outside was wrong... If she didn't understand he reiterated that he was not pronouncing judgment but asking her the reason for her silence... The reason cannot be read in the eyes...
Arzoo was right in saying he has no right to ask her anything.. But there her reactions stopped being justifiable... Lashing out at him and accusing him of not trusting her when that's exactly what he did.. Sometimes her preconceived notions are really detrimental.. I wish she would stop replaying one dialog in her mind and think about all the times sahir has actually shown himself to be a fair and caring individual... There are plenty of instances!
Trust works both ways... She didn't go to him with her issue but she expected that he would read her eyes.. He understood she was right without even reading her eyes... She should have realized that by putting aside her self righteousness for a minute.. It would have helped.
Besides even she wants him to express his pain in words.. Show his care in words.. She isn't even sensitive to his care when it's so obvious... So it's kind of double standards to assume he should read her eyes.. Body language. Etc... I think there should be some limit to irrationality.. Whatever be the reason...

I THINK: Sahir will still be the one to probably figure out that this has something to do with Rehman... Despite all that lashing he seems wont to think about what's happening as per the precap.. If zaki and samaira love each other then what is arzoos reason? I wonder what is planned further.. Will he think arzoo is in love with zaki ? What will happen after that? It promises to be interesting.

I HOPE : for more character growth in Arzoo... Hope we get to see her flaws as flaws and not her strength... She never thinks before reacting... Is not just when she is emotional.. Its always... And particularly when it comes to sahir... She doesn't judge zaki... But sahir has always been held to different standards.. Whatever he does her first thought of him is always negative... Since she is in love now I hope her attitude changes along with her expectations.. Sahir has shown himself capable of healing the pain in Arzoos life.. I hope arzoo does too!
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Excellent approach, Sush.😆
I am not mad at Arzoo or Sahir or on anybody for that matter. I don't think they are wrong, coz both are right in their own places. Matter of perceptions, you see! 😉l I liked the flow of the episode much. Sahir and Alvira still trust Arzoo. Sahir was only angry coz she didn't counter the accusations. I love you Sahir for that!🤗 Arzoo's behavior was understandable as for as I am concerned, since anger can be shown only on your loved ones, just like the way Sahir has been showing his anger umpteen times. In fact I would've behaved the way like she did. The times when I yelled at my mom and husband would be infinite.😆Sorry for this, Sush. Now writing what you've assigned for us.

I feel: Sahir and Arzoo can't openly acknowledge their love for each other, but secretly they crave for it. One ignorant word is enough for them to go mad at the opposite, that's where their alter ego crops up magnanimously.

I think: They should open up to themselves first, what they actually want from the opposite person. Sahir says he doesn't give a damn for her, but that isn't true. Arzoo should stop being a Mahaan and adamant, she should've expressed her dilemma to him, (forget the promise she made to that stupid Zaki😡) that Sahir can decide what to do and how to deal with this, so that the deal gets unaffected also her reputation. Sahir should himself realize what he wants with Arzoo, one moment he wants her to leave his room, the next moment he stops her. If it was some other maid or help will he behave cool if they come without knocking like Arsoo does??

I Hope: Hope to see a calm Sahir confronting Arzoo once he gets to know Zaki and Samaira's relationship from Rehman. He should get out the truth from her tactfully.
Arzoo should try to be more open to Sahir, she should forget the farak nahi padta uttered by Sahir, because that has hurt her feelings a lot from where her current rudeness comes from, I guess!
They should forget the hurdles between them, show trust and patience on each other, hopefully 😊.
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Posted: 10 years ago
#24


Hi guys...Thanks for not arguing against each other viewpoints ...
I want this thread to be not about arguments but just expression of what each one feels...without being challenged...


And all...remember ...
No judging
No prescription
No should have or should...

Edited by -Sush- - 10 years ago
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Hey Sush ..n Shweta ..nice post n collages ...love them ...😛


Ok I feel that the track is now failing miserably to show us ARZOO 'a POV.?.see with sahir too n his trust issues too we have got monologues n scene where we can connect to him but with ARZOO there has been Nothing

I think the cvs are trying to create an MU n it's disheartening 😆

Anyway I hope they clarify it n redeem wht is wrong n I hope they don't show sahir agreeing to marry Sam just somtht zaki n ARZOO can be one 😆
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Where to start? Lets' do it with arzoo ... I totally agree with her telling Sahir its none of his business, she was absolutely right, what she does or doesn't do (outside of office) is none of his business! I am with her till there ... after that i loose her again! Why? Because she in one breath she tells him its' none of his business and in the very next she tells him she expected him to atleast understand her, asks him to read his eyes ... why arzoo? He does not have right over you but you have the right to expect from him? How and why is he obliged to understand you?
I have said it before I will say it again that Sahir is under no obligation what so ever to trust her ... they are not in any relationship and he has not even realized he loves her! I do also understand arzoo is in love and is frustrated with his behavior ... but that is not Sahir's fault is it? Sahir has kept his pain inside of him for 7 years, it has literally eaten him up ... if it was so easy for him to share it why would he let is consume him to begin with? Shouldn't she be a bit more understanding? She expects him to read her eyes but neither that day nor yesterday she tried to read the pain and hurt in his ... that is where i loose arzoo ... No i don't want her to be a girl who just obeys sahir or who keeps quiet when he is angry ... I am perfectly ok with her getting angry what i am not ok is her seeing everything from her POV ... never stopping to think once that other may have reasons too! Did arzoo ever share any personal thing of hers with Sahir? She didnt even tell him as much as her mother was sick as the reason of her absence from work ... whatever he came to know he did through others like Alvira telling about sarfraz etc. then why she expects him to open up to him?

People are saying Sahir was a hypocrite that he claimed to trust her but was still asking her to speak ... first of all Sahir has never claimed to trust her ... he has always proved it with his actions ... from anam stealing her designs to KA levelling allegations ... he has always proved his trust by action ... this time he saw them at the hospital ... then he saw her keep quiet and exchange looks with Zaki, yet he questioned himself ... not ready to believe, he asked her not because he believed what he saw but because he wanted that assurance, which goes with Sahir's background ... he has been cheated in life before he is vulnerable that way, yet he didn't give a judgement, he is still questioning in his mind only not ready to believe! ... if he had believed why would he ask? If we are ready to spare arzoo because she is in love why we r not ready to spare Sahir who is also in love even if he hasn't realized it yet? Arzoo is frustrated in love so she can say all these things, Sahir is also in love but him holding her hand and asking her is such a big deal? People are even using the F word for it?

Sahir hasn't realized his love and despite his background where he was cheated everyone expects him to trust arzoo ... arzoo has realized her love yet does she trust Sahir? If she did she would not hide this thing from him but go and tell him, trusting him to solve the problem!

Lets say she did it because she did not want zaki to get in trouble ... fair enough then if tomorrow this thing develops into an even bigger problem (with sumaira and rehman making their intentions clear) would arzoo then accept her responsibility in the mess or would she again sit and cry blaming everyone else but looking inside of what she did wrong? I mean this is not a small thing that she did and her heart may be in the right place but its' not like we don't make mistakes even when our heart is at right place ... so would she or would she even then blame Sahir?

Coming to Alvira am sure everyone is all praise to her because of her trust in arzoo, keeping aside the fact that whether it was trust or her desperation seeing her plan fail ... shouldn't she as a mother have talked to zaki first? I know she can't now because arzoo told her not to ... but shouldn't he be the first one she spoke to? She is her son and should have been questioned before her!

Zaki if he loved arzoo won't let her do this no matter what!!! Also Arzoo clearly told him that he is her friend ... he took it as her love ... at dinning table too earlier he saw love in her eyes ... so does it not validate what sahir was saying? Eyes can lie? Because when we r in love, we see in them what we want to see ... and Sahir probably saw her innocence ... but at the back of his mind the fact is very much their that he wants to see innocence hence he is seeing that ... and that is where comes the need to hear it! Hear it from her one time just a no! To reassure her eyes are not lying!

People say we have issues with arzoo getting angry because we r used to women staying quiet ... its' nothing like that I have no issues with arzoo making herself clear where she has to ... in being angry where she needs to ... my problem with her starts only when she sets different standards for herself and others ... when she only wants to see things from her POV, when she doesn't make an effort to understand the other or even if she does its either her way or the highway but expects others to understand her all the time no matter what. When she makes mistakes but never looks inside of her to realize and correct them!

For me arzoo is a flawed character with issues just like Sahir is ... why Sahir becomes easier to relate to is that his flaws are shown as flaws and among those he still does a lot of soul searching, always questioning his own judgement, realizing mistake and even making the effort to correct them ... arzoo's flaws on the other hand are portrayed as symbols of some kind of strength, she never does soul searching or thinks about her own mistakes and that is where I loose connect with her char.

I wonder if after rehman tells him that zaki and sumaira love each other, zaki would tell sahir he loves arzoo and sahir would think that arzoo kept quiet because she loves zaki? Because sahir does not think she is pregnant he knows she is hiding something and thats why the question sach kia hai ... he doesn't know she loves him so he may think she kept quiet for the sake of her love








One more thing alvira already knows she is not pregnant, arzoo expected sahir to understand looking in her eyes, she is not ... Then why keep quiet and not say no? She could say a no when alvira and sahir r the decision makers and both already know they r hiding something ... Then what sense her not denying pregnancy makes is beyond me! Because if sahir did read his eyes he would try and find the reason anyways ...
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Posted: 10 years ago
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I feel Sahir should use his new iPhone (since he didn't throw it in the pool after getting super pist which I thought he would) and go to the iTunes Store and download Kid Cudi's "Soundtrack to my Life" because Sahir really has 99 problems and they are all b*****s (or some how related to). This is exactly how I felt when I watched IPK. There are just SO MANY demanding women in his life. 😆 No offense to anyone that has a problem with profanity. That is just the song lyric 😃
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Hi Sush, I am Suvika, a writer by profession. And this is my first post in the Humsafars forum. Credit goes to your everyday Sushpective posts and the way you delve into each character's psyche. Simply superb. I look forward to reading them every morning. I was in the middle of my book publishing process all these days and hence could not actively participate and comment.

I completely agree with your POV here. The push and pull between Sahir and Arzoo is truly captivating in its own way. We don't see such strong female protagonist in most of the Indian TV shows. The circumstances of Arzoo have made her strong. She stumbles when something hits her but she doesn't fall. She bucks up pretty fast and is ready to give as good as she gets.

She loves Sahir. She knows it but is scared of that feeling. Scared of trusting her heart to a man. Goes without saying who takes the credit for that! And in last night's episode, she saw the same man questioning her. The accusation and doubt in his eyes hit her and in typical Arzoo way she lashed out at him. He pushed her and she shoved back with all her might. Each was expecting something from the other which they themselves were not willing to give. Trust.

But amidst all that, I liked the way they interacted with each other. Apart from the chemistry, the interaction was totally on a personal ground. Like they were a couple who were committed to each other and each has been hurt by the other. There was no boss - intern or even the tentativeness that we saw during their one on one conversations until now.


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Posted: 10 years ago
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Mere hisaab se kabhi dono hi galat ho jaatey or kabhi sahi...main kisi ek ko blame nahi karti yahan...
Lekin kuch baatein hain jo samajhna chahti hoon...

Arzoo :
Theek hai usne bol diya ki sahir ka koi haq nahi ussey sawal karne ka uska hath pakadne ka ...or dusri taraf vo ye bolti hai ki meri aankhein padh lo ye samajho koi mujhey jab sahir ka koi haq nahi to sahir kaise read karey uski eyes ab sahir ek insaan hai jisko sach batana padega mu se koi antaryaami to hai nahi sahir ki aankhein read karke sab jaan jaayega...😕...

Agar aisi hi baat hai to arzoo ko bhi sahir se sawal nahi karna chaiye tha ki uska dard kya hai jab sahir ne sorry bola tha arzoo ne kyun sawal kiya vo bhi sahir ki eyes read kar leti or sach jaan leti apne aap sab pata chal jata...

Kyunki sach zaban se bolne ki zarurat hoti hai koi yahan pe antaryaami nahi baitha jo apne aap sab jaan lega...

I know arzoo sahir ki baaton se hurt thi ki koi farak nahi padta sahir jab usey kuch nahi batata to vo bhi sahir ko kuch nahi batana chahti hisaab barabar...

Sahir
Sahir ko arzoo ke bare mein sab jaana hai lekin khud ke bare mein kuch nahi batana...ek taraf vo arzoo ko khud se dur karta hai dusri side uske dur jaane se dukhi bhi hota hai...
Ek side pe bolta hai usko farak nahi padta or dusri side arzoo pe haq bhi jatata hai..kyunki usko farak padta hai...

Vo abhi tak apne past se nahi nikla isiliye uske mann mein ek jagah pe kahin na kahin ek darr hai ki jo uske sath pehle hua vo dubara naa ho jaaye kyunki ek baar vo bardaasht kar gaya dubara nahi kar paayega...shayad isiliye...
Jab tak sahir ka ye darr khatam nahi hota vo kuch nahi bol sakta arzoo ko ...jab tak sahir arzoo ke liye apni feelings ko puri taraf accept nahi kar leta...jis din sahir ko ye yakeen ho gaya ki arzoo hi uski sachi humsafar hai or arzoo ke liye apna pyar accept kar lega i m sure us din sahir khud arzoo ko sab kuch sach sach batayega
Usey apni life ka har dard har raaz share karega...

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