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Humsafars | Evolution of Symbolisms

by 2 Forum 32 on September 27, 2014

Disclaimer: This post is likely to cure Extrapolitis and this comes from someone who has been a long sufferer and now is under convalescence. Is permanent cure possible. We can only hope.

Symbolisms in the show - The Reel Life

Humsafars or for that matter each and every show on Television wants to propagate concepts. Be it of love, social message, layers in a story or symbolism in scenes. Really! Now we bring you Symbolism that one would have seen in the first few episodes of the show and one in particular we would like to bring to you is about "exchange of Mugs".

Sahir Azeem Chaudhary drinks black coffee (Okay for those who did not get that as yet, now know). While Arzoo Nausheen Khan drinks kadak chai. And what is the symbolism there in? Nothing. We are going to talk about the mugs. One holds a Red Mug while the other Green. Just like the signals, they say stay away or stop and of course green denotes go ahead. We really don't want to go into a full blown discussion on symbolism here. The topic is evolution not what symbolisms were there in the scene. That is for you all to find out and us to know.

The Reality of the scene.

The set up is getting ready. There is rain predicted. The Moon is lit (yeah it is called a 6k HMI). The lights are on. The shot is ready. The scene dialogues are just about written. Mint Fresh. Yes, they were written on the set with creative inputs of three people, the final draft was ready. Just about. In Triplicate. Two for the artists and one for the AD to check the lines during take. Deep words. Everyone on the set (Well, everyone creatively inclined which includes yours truly as well gushed over the words, the import of it all). The symbolism factory was churning out some candy floss that audience would marvel at.

Now, time for the other symbolism. The mugs. Yes. Two Mugs. At the Fashion Show, Tea and Coffee provided by the management. And they are green.

Stop Shoot.

"No!" says the creative producer (CP) and creative director (CD) in unison with a vehement agreement by the Director which sounded like a prayer answered. These won't do. We have to pre-empt the audience. We have to zoom in on the cups before hand to deliberate on what will happen next, much before the girl absently picks up the cup and says, "Coffee?"

The set up people run helter-skelter. Requirement : Two mugs of same type but different colours. All the mugs on the set are rounded up. Yes, it is a mission. One is black but the shape is not same. The other is Yellow even though the shape is same as the green it is rejected as in the low "moon light" the colours won't be distinguishable. Think. Think. The creative team comes up with several ideas. Of course, all the mugs were brought in only to be rejected.

One says "Can we color one of the mugs with a permanent marker?"

"NO!" comes the answer from the CP.

Heads scratching, the assistant art director on the set is asked, "What paints do we have? Acrylic?"

"Sir, it won't stay on the glazed china."

Point noted.

More deliberation. Now the time has run to 25 minutes. It is 12 am. So break is called for, so that dinner can happen and search for the right material for the mug is found. For obvious reason, going to nearby shop is out (Yeah well, even if we don't sleep, the rest of the world does have a time limit to working hours).

Back after the break. One smart set-up guy brings a red-gel paper that is used to cover a light.

"Now, we are talking," says the CP and CD. While the mug is being doctored, the discussion ensues. Is the red colour right?

Of course, that will add symbolism. Voila. We found the perfect solution.

Bring it on.

The set guy goes ahead and creates magic. Everyone applauds.

The shoot is on.

Symbolism intact. Check.

The exchange of mugs plausible. Check.

The CP, CD give a nod to the Director who says, "Roll."

Time is 1am.

We have the shots of the first take and then what you saw on screen.

Just a small example of how symbolisms are born.

Bravo to the team.

Moral of the story: Symbolisms are not created, they evolve.




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i don't know who wrote this but since its from 4 lions forum i will take it as their POV ... When i read it in the morning word Extrapolitis rang a bell that i have read it some where ... Later in the day i was able to remember that lizzy had used it in her symbolism post ... So is the person who wrote this trying to mock fans is the question that popped up in my mind. Viewers analyze a show based on what they see not on what goes behind it. These people should consider themselves lucky that people take time to find symbolism in their shows ... They take time to analyze and relate to them, the day fans stop doing that it would mean no one cares for what they produce ... And any professional should dread that day particularly someone in tv production.

Viewers judge on the basis of what u show onscreen ... How u arranged those mugs or whether u used gel paper or whatever is not our convern.

If this article was meant to be light hearted joke I dont mind but if its meant to mock (which it appears) to i can only feel sorry for the team of humsafars because the day fans stop analyzing their show would mean no one appreciates it ... No one cares and i am sure no one in creative industry would ever want that

If this article did not have the disclaimer and the moral it would be a cute off screen happening to know about but disclaimer in particular makes it look like a mock in bad taste. Yea you may think we are stupid we watch your show so closel but when we wont it would be your loss not ours
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Originally posted by: Soaps1

i don't know who wrote this but since its from 4 lions forum i will take it as their POV ... When i read it in the morning word Extrapolitis rang a bell that i have read it some where ... Later in the day i was able to remember that lizzy had used it in her symbolism post ... So is the person who wrote this trying to mock fans is the question that popped up in my mind. Viewers analyze a show based on what they see not on what goes behind it. These people should consider themselves lucky that people take time to find symbolism in their shows ... They take time to analyze and relate to them, the day fans stop doing that it would mean no one cares for what they produce ... And any professional should dread that day particularly someone in tv production.

Viewers judge on the basis of what u show onscreen ... How u arranged those mugs or whether u used gel paper or whatever is not our convern.

If this article was meant to be light hearted joke I dont mind but if its meant to mock (which it appears) to i can only feel sorry for the team of humsafars because the day fans stop analyzing their show would mean no one appreciates it ... No one cares and i am sure no one in creative industry would ever want that

If this article did not have the disclaimer and the moral it would be a cute off screen happening to know about but disclaimer in particular makes it look like a mock in bad taste. Yea you may think we are stupid we watch your show so closel but when we wont it would be your loss not ours


Dear Soap

The article was written with same or similar sentiment as the post by Elizabeth Darcy. This came from a point of view of first having been a fan who wrote scores of scenes, symbolism and analysis on yes, 4 Lions Films shows.

Today, working closely on the sets and seeing the reality of it, one tends to put aside the analysis and symbolisms one tends to see within a scene. But yes they exist and so it did for the scene.

Interestingly, the discussions also involved me being there and part of it as a viewer, a third party who has not written the scene but has the privilege of seeing it being shot. And infusing symbolism is not only what the writer does but on the set, added on the fly.

The poetry, the mugs, are part of it all. And the reason for a tongue in cheek humour for the article was just that, fun.

Actually enjoyed reading something after a long time on IF. Rarely come here or comment however, a friend pointed out posts that were so reminiscent of days when we used to write on Geet or IPK that I could not resist.

In fact, the sole reason for mentioning extrapolitis in the disclaimer is as it tickled my funny bone. And this article was an inspiration of just that. looking for symbolism even when shoot is happening.
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I already said if its written with good humor i have no issues am glad u clarified it ... or else i would think twice before writing anything about this show 😆 Thing is someone said that is 4 lions forum and i thought they write stuff on it ... even though that symbolism post wasn't mine it made me feel bad for the person who wrote it but as long as u wrote it in good humor i have no issues
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Originally posted by: -RushTrip-


Dear Soap

The article was written with same or similar sentiment as the post by Elizabeth Darcy. This came from a point of view of first having been a fan who wrote scores of scenes, symbolism and analysis on yes, 4 Lions Films shows.

Today, working closely on the sets and seeing the reality of it, one tends to put aside the analysis and symbolisms one tends to see within a scene. But yes they exist and so it did for the scene.

Interestingly, the discussions also involved me being there and part of it as a viewer, a third party who has not written the scene but has the privilege of seeing it being shot. And infusing symbolism is not only what the writer does but on the set, added on the fly.

The poetry, the mugs, are part of it all. And the reason for a tongue in cheek humour for the article was just that, fun.

Actually enjoyed reading something after a long time on IF. Rarely come here or comment however, a friend pointed out posts that were so reminiscent of days when we used to write on Geet or IPK that I could not resist.

In fact, the sole reason for mentioning extrapolitis in the disclaimer is as it tickled my funny bone. And this article was an inspiration of just that. looking for symbolism even when shoot is happening.


I appreciate what you were trying to do here, RushTrip, and I found the story very engaging and funny on its own -- it didn't need the crutch of that disclaimer, or the moral. To be frank, though, Soaps and I weren't the only people who took the disclaimer to mean something other than what you now tell us you meant. A lot of people who read the article interpreted the same thing. I mean, "cure extrapolitis"? (On that note, no thanks, I don't want it cured, it's a really fun disease to have 😆) You may have just added it for the fun element but it went completely against your present point - it sounds more like you're saying "this person reads too much into everything", rather than your present point of telling us "hey, cool, I just want to take you through the process of how we got that symbolism in the first place". What is the point of humour if it doesn't contribute to the point you're trying to make, but seems to say something else?

That aside, I loved the story. It's great to see how things evolve on the sets. 😊
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No matter Elizabeth Darcy...
I sometimes walk the thin line... i call it side effects of having wry humour. Not everyone and it does seem there are plenty from what you are saying who don' t get it

so ir was a way of appreciating a like minded person...

do continue with your thread on symbolism. I shall endeavour to come and post on them as well. bring my own perspective.

how does that sound to you?
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Originally posted by: -RushTrip-

No matter Elizabeth Darcy...

I sometimes walk the thin line... i call it side effects of having wry humour. Not everyone and it does seem there are plenty from what you are saying who don' t get it

so ir was a way of appreciating a like minded person...

do continue with your thread on symbolism. I shall endeavour to come and post on them as well. bring my own perspective.

how does that sound to you?


Symbolisms are a lot of fun. I myself go on a rush trip😉 on them...and sometimes I find things I did not intend to be there in what I have written myself...😆


Before I read this reply, I was actually going to ask how the article sounded offending...esp since the disclaimer clearly mentioned the writer suffered from it too...😆 Even I felt it was a way of appreciating someone who thought similarly...

Hope to see more of U out here.😳

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