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Posted: 13 years ago
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Well! This was a great post, a very good post.
I agree with each of your words. Yes, Indira and Rishi are neither perfect. But together- they are perfect. They can iron out each other's flaws very well- and thus they make a great couple. Imperfect individually and perfect together! 😊
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Excellent post jjkb...

it's all Cvs fault not exploring Rishi's character properly...

I too seriously want ...Rishi apni carrier per focus kare...
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Posted: 13 years ago
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thanks for such nice and positive post i really liked the post.i'm agree that rishi is the victim of situation and both lack love in their life.
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Posted: 13 years ago
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😆Kutumb Sharma - Arrested at the crush stage for her husband.

I feel that all Sharams, including Indira, have arrested development; arrest being at teenage years. Indira is understandable. But Kutumb takes the cake.

Kutumb must have been in her early 40's when her husband left her. So she was well past the teenage crush years where one can understand her total enthrallment of Inder Sharma. In her 20s and thirties, she bore 4 children.

What is puzzling for me is why she never developed into a mother, flawed mother, but mother nonetheless even to her sons.

I have seen no evidence so far that she has motherly tendencies for any of her children. So self absorbed is she in her devotion to her philandering, divorced(?) husband.

For a second, leave aside the girls. Easy to believe that she followed the very conservative model of reluctantly putting up with girls, but not too fond of showering love and care at them.

From what I see, she does not show motherly care for any of her sons either. Given she is a woman in traditional model, expectation would be that she would be as enchanted with her boys, as she is with her husband. But that is not the case. She never mentions Vidit, never fondly remembers him, never calls him, inquires about him, or place her hopes for easy money on him! This is especially puzzling when she is so money minded. One would think that having a son in US would have been her ticket to financial security. She would have made extra effort to be in good books of Vidit. But we see none of this.

We have never seen her shower Munna with affection either, making sure he has good meals, money he needs for his not-so-kosher activities etc etc. All we see is her scheming with him to sell Sharma Nivas, or berating Indira. She and Munna share a fear of what would happen to them if Indira leaves them. That is it. It appears to me a common interest driven partnership, rather than a mother-son relationship. If tomorrow Inder Sharma asks her to cheat Munna out of his share of SN, or something similar, I believe that she would not hesitate for one second.



Funny thing is I do not believe that she loves herself either. Her center of being is her (ex)husband. Her definition of self is Wife to Inder Sharma.

But her definition of wife seems to be stuck at the "bride"/"Dulhan" stage where initial blush of romance dominates. It was fascinating to see her play blushing bride games when Inder Sharma was cornering her at the temple, seducing her with honeyed words to sign the Sharma Nivas papers.

If she had love for herself, then all her relations, not just with Indira, would be driven by what the other person brings to the table for her. We would see her playing "woe betide me" games with her children to guilt trap them to do what she wants. We do not see that either. Granted she in not an intelligent lady, but everyone has some basic concept of self-love. (not to mention guilt-trapping powers that mothers-to-be super-naturally acquire when they get pregnant 😉😆)


Next up Mandira

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Posted: 13 years ago
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I love your rendition of the Sharmas...Regarding Indira and Rishi I will share later..But please continue...I am loving your portrayal of the Sharmas...and How we have never been able to correctly interpret them...😳
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Mandira - Defined by abondment by her parents

Coming back to mothering, is it a surprise to see how Mandira turned out to be what she is? She must have been in her pre-teens when her father abandoned her. But when Inder Sharma left, Madira lost a father as well as a mother. However deficient Kutumb's motherly skills may have been when Inder was with them, there was emotional security of a family unit, and some measure of financial security.

And one day, rug was pulled out from under her. Father eloped with his lover, mother grief stricken and absorbed in her ex, a good for nothing brother, and a sister who is struggling to put food on the table for all while she herself deals with the trauma by becoming Hitler. Think about it. Was there anyone who could help the young pre-teen girl deal with a very adult issue of emotional and financial abandonment?

We all know what happens in real life of young girls when they are abandoned by their fathers. Research shows that many either grow up to chase men, become promiscuous, chasing the love that they lost with their fathers...or...many become nun-like, losing all trust in love or men. Sounds familiar?😉

Mandira chose the rebel route. Her good looks greased her way into becoming an incorrigible flirt, irresponsible, lacking empathy and love for everyone in her family. We never see a moment where she expresses affection for either her mother or her brother, even Vidit. But we also never see a moment where a family member is showering genuine affection for her, nurturing her, and maybe correcting her wild behavior gently. Indira does not know how to, and she is too absorbed in her struggles to keep the family afloat. Mother too absorbed with her ex, her bhabi too silly for deep thoughts, Munna bhai absorbed in his wild ways.


Only person who ever attempted a course correction with her is Rishi.
Think back to the time when Indira, in her disastrously executed plan to get Mandira married off, started laying down ultimatums, threats, deadlines etc. It was Rishi who sensed that Mandira will truly react badly to these tactics. Danger was afoot. Realizing this, he engaged in a "keeps friends closer, but enemies even closer" strategy to make Mandira think he was in her corner and would help her escape Indira's machinations. His plan was ultimately failed because Mandira's desire to escape her sister's plans and her love for money was just too strong for even Rishi.

If Mandira had not run away to Macau, I believe she would have run away with another man before her wedding, leaving Indira in shambles.



Sameer episode is a major manifestation of her parental abandoned. Not to mention she is in her late teens, hormones are running a muck, and she has found the goose that lays golden eggs!

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Posted: 13 years ago
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I want to ask one thing...Why is Mandy not afraid of the consequences of her actions?
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: -Rinky-

I want to ask one thing...Why is Mandy not afraid of the consequences of her actions?


No because she is young, pretty, and stupid. She probably thinks that no bad will happen to her (bad that she cannot deal with and bad that will impede her in attaining her goals). I really think she believes she can go against the Diwans and win.

She has no idea of the psychotic charcater of Sameer and that he will not hesitate to even get her killed off. Afterall, he did not hesitate to send over his goons to beat her family up just to acquire their property. This appears to be his standard operating procedure. With Mandira in the way of his plans to marry Indira, he would not hesitate for one second before feeding her to the wolves. He is not sparing his brother, what to say about an inconsequential girl like Mandira.


I also believe Mandira does not value societal mores, concept of izzat etc. Afterall, her family izzat already was non-existent when her father ran off. So who cares if some busy-bodies get upset with her pursuit of her own goals!
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Posted: 13 years ago
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I would be one of the very few people who actually likes mandy and sympathises with her. I think she never had anyone to look up to or guide her. Atleast Ishaan had his Bua from his birth but mandy never got close to her sister and never got to learn how to handle herself. In a way she is quite smart in taking care of herself(till now) She would surely land up herself very well in life, the problems being taken care of Indira😃.
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Posted: 13 years ago
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And I wanted to add this about Indira...She needs as much as care and support and guidance as anyone else in the Sharma family. And she is smart enough to realise that. I loved how she is went about taking care of her marriage without the family's support. Unlike most Indian girls who would feel coy about it she just went for it. Her reaching out to Rishi in moments of pain and trouble, her leaning on him for support, her standing up for him shows she realises she needs someone. Maybe all along she knew and was waiting for that someone though she did not like admitting it.

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