DD wanted only to 'Pass' the EW 2 Snape?!

hey guys...In King's Cross, Harry asks Dumbledore if he had planned his death with Snape, he intended Snape to end up with the Elder Wand. N DD says "Yes"...

well..My point is...did DD really mean to just "Pass" it to Snape and die undefeated? I mean he knew that Snape wudnt be the master of the Elder Wand coz he isnot defeating him. He was sooo brilliant na??? Overlooking such a crucial point seems unlikely of Dumbledore.

Did he just want Voldemort, whom he was sure wud go after the Deathstick, to think that Snape had bcum the Owner of the wand??? while actually, its power had died with DD?

I am saying this coz Harry tells Voldemort that if thelast part of DD's plan had worked out, he wud have died undeafeated.

which means he DD intended to die undefeated as the last true master of the Elder Wand.

The plan did work out of course as Draco disarmed DD...But Still, If that was DD's putting Sbape in danger..I mean he already is in danger all the time but if DD had planned so, I am sure that means he wud have forseen that Voldemort will try to kill Snape and take over the wand(N even if that happens, Voldy will not bcum the master)--bUT Voldy didnt know that!!!

but does it mean he PLANNED Snape death too???😕 I am confused coz I thought he wanted Snape to tell Harry the truth and he Snape dies b4 he can tell Harry, that will ruin the plan na??😕

I hope I made my meaning clear😳

oh my arent we goin in circles

here i think dumbledore must hv guessed snape

life is in danger

but it seems odd that he had planned snape death too from voldemort

and where was it mentioned i think by dumbledore

he says there wud come a time when voldemort wont need a spy at hogwarts

looks like dumbledore knew a lot but dint tell all to everyone

and i think u told me this also that he had told snape there wud come time when harry needed to be told the truth

how wud snape tell truth then if he is killed

something went wrong there

i thinkonly ans jkrowling can give now

ehheheheee

^^Lolz..True..We want Jkn to answer pllllz...an Ignorant fool like me gets soo many doubts!!! 😆

Originally posted by: lucky_lakshmi

^^Lolz..True..We want Jkn to answer pllllz...an Ignorant fool like me gets soo many doubts!!! 😆

oh no no dont think that way

ur questions r clearin my doubts too

and i m glad in answering u i m also gettin answers

there wud be too many questions

but some ans r not very clear no matter how much we try to guess

^^^yeah true..I too think that when I discuss my doubts and theories with IF members, it helps all though I am sure it drives some crazy coz I am soo active hese days and get some doubt or wierd theory every now n then!!! 😆

A very very nice question but JKR is the only one who can answer it with full proof

^^^yeah Jooo...where are u?!! 😆 😳

i think that dumby trusted snape so much that he was ready to give him the elder wand....and maybe snape was supposed to pass it on to harry along with the sword, kinda like he passed him the ressecection stone concealed in the snitch....but if dumby gave the wand away in his will then the ministry would check it and they would come to know of the elder wand's existence...also dumby knew that it was only a matter of time when voldy took over the ministry!!! so not to raise anymore questions he wanted to entrust the responsibility over to snape.....because he was the only person who knew of how and why he really died. Also voldy is to dumb to work out the the whole theory about the passing of the elder wand....which if u remember harry tells him about before he dies!!!
i hope that helped!!! 😊

^^^Dumbledore DIDNT want Harry to inherit the Elder Wand.
Of course He trusted Severus Snape with his life(and rightly so coz Snape was Dumbledore's man thru and thru!)
But I think he wanted to die undefeated as the last master of the Elder Wand.
Remember that the Elder Wand is a highly dangerous wand. It was safe in Dumbledore's hand coz he never used it against the mankind. He used it to protect them from it's dangerous effects.
The Elder Wand will be safe only in his handds he knows that. I think he wanted its power to be finished once n for all with his death. as he had planned his death with Snape , Snape isnt beating him so he will die as the last true master of the Elder Wand.
But that part of the plan didnt work out as Draco disarmed him...n we know the rest of the story.
DD never imagined Draco wud take his wand away without his will...But even then he kept a cool head coz he knew there was back up!

He didnt want Harry to inherit the Elder Wand. He wanted Harry to KNOW abt the Elder Wand..abt the Hallows but not inherit them or go in search of them..he wanted Harry to concentrate on searching the Horcruxes. AS for passing the Ressurrection stone, he knew HARRY very well..no one knew Harry better than he did. In fact Dumbledore is the best judge of character u wud know. He knew that at the end, Harry wud need the support of his loved once to take the courageous decision to walk towards death. Thats why he had wroitten "I open at the close" in the snitch so that when time pesent itself, Harry gets that courage.

Hey just sharing what I feel.......😛

Originally posted by: lucky_lakshmi

hey guys...In King's Cross, Harry asks Dumbledore if he had planned his death with Snape, he intended Snape to end up with the Elder Wand. N DD says "Yes"...

By ending up with elder wand means to break it's power with the death of it's last true master.........not to pass it to Snape........the power of elder wand survives only if its current master is alive........and DD wanted to kill that wand's power becoz he knew the wand cause more trouble than it's power

well..My point is...did DD really mean to just "Pass" it to Snape and die undefeated? I mean he knew that Snape wudnt be the master of the Elder Wand coz he isnot defeating him. He was sooo brilliant na??? Overlooking such a crucial point seems unlikely of Dumbledore.

yeah, DD is the most clever & most intelligent character in HP series........😛

Did he just want Voldemort, whom he was sure wud go after the Deathstick, to think that Snape had bcum the Owner of the wand??? while actually, its power had died with DD?

DD always knew the fact that snape's life is in mortal danger.......But I think he doesn't want Voldy to kill snape to be the true master of elder wand........If Voldy listened to ollivander carefully he would not think that snape got the power.......but Yeah DD took a protective measure for Draco bcoz if snape doesn't show of the killing of DD voldy would definitely kill Draco to get the wand

I am saying this coz Harry tells Voldemort that if thelast part of DD's plan had worked out, he wud have died undeafeated.

which means he DD intended to die undefeated as the last true master of the Elder Wand.

Yeah he would have died undefeated with one of the deathly hallows i.e. that wand.........I think Voldy was wrong in thinking that taking away the wand against its dead master would make his it's owner......the wand was still powerfull becoz its current master i.e. Draco was alive.........

The plan did work out of course as Draco disarmed DD...But Still, If that was DD's putting Sbape in danger..I mean he already is in danger all the time but if DD had planned so, I am sure that means he wud have forseen that Voldemort will try to kill Snape and take over the wand(N even if that happens, Voldy will not bcum the master)--bUT Voldy didnt know that!!!

Yeah may be but the job done by Snape(playing a two faced game) can not be done by anyone else not even for DD itself......so I think he forsaw that but it was necessary for the Greater good I believe

but does it mean he PLANNED Snape death too???😕 I am confused coz I thought he wanted Snape to tell Harry the truth and he Snape dies b4 he can tell Harry, that will ruin the plan na??😕

No he had not planned Snape's death becoz snape had to pass the last part of this puzzle to Harry.......that's why he wanted to go to seek Harry......but I think DD assumed that voldy will understand the fact that with DD's death the power of the wand also dies.......& dont run after snape if DD's plan worked properly........

I hope I made my meaning clear😳