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Anya-Hitomi thumbnail
Posted: 20 years ago
#21
Yes, even my personal belief is that Snape hated what he was going to do - and not Dumbledore. He might even be hating Draco for not being able to kill Dumbledore because then HE would have to do it and he wasn't liking it an iota.


As for even Lucius saving Draco in the fifth book... well, I merely meant that without being provoked ("coward") he was not hurting Harry. Instead he was giving him ample chance to turn away.


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Posted: 20 years ago
#22

if u think so and even i think so, so y did he kill dumbledore... coz of that i really hate him 😡
*~Ish~* thumbnail
Posted: 20 years ago
#23
dumbledore had to die either way (unbreakable vow)...either snape dies or dumbledore dies (dumbledore would rather have himself die) there was no stopping a death from happening...and well all kno that dumbledore doesn't think himself valuable in comparison the younger ppl
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Posted: 20 years ago
#24
yes but snape did not have 2 make the unbreakable vow. bellatrix said that snape should not get involved coz that was something draco had 2 do himself but snape decided to help narcissa. i'm actually considering that snape was in love with narcissa. anyways more to the point... snape was not forced into making the unbreakable vow. if he told voldemort that narcissa came to him, voldemort would have tortured her but it seem that he wanted draco 2 do it
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Posted: 20 years ago
#25

Originally posted by: Lamasat

yes but snape did not have 2 make the unbreakable vow. bellatrix said that snape should not get involved coz that was something draco had 2 do himself but snape decided to help narcissa. i'm actually considering that snape was in love with narcissa. anyways more to the point... snape was not forced into making the unbreakable vow. if he told voldemort that narcissa came to him, voldemort would have tortured her but it seem that he wanted draco 2 do it

Thats what I was thinking too...And you have a good point; he could have easily said that the Dark Lord wouldn't have wanted him to interfere - basically regurgitating Bellatrix's excuse

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Posted: 20 years ago
#26

exactly. and seeing how bellatrix didn't trust him, may be he should done as bellatrix would have expected of him... definitely not to make the vow.. although check this out.. http://www.livejournal.com/users/ausmac/310041.html

he or she does have some very good facts to support their theory... but in j.k rowling's interview to such a question,

"MA: It goes back to the question of whether Snape is a double-double-double-triple-

JKR: [Laughs] Double-double-quadruple-to-the-power-of - yeah.

MA: …whether this had been planned, and since Dumbledore had this knowledge of Draco the whole year, had they had a discussion that said, "Should this happen, you have to act as if it is entirely your intention to just walk forward and kill me, because if you don't, Draco will die, the Unbreakable Vow, you'll die," and so on —

JKR: No, I see that, and yeah, I follow your line there. I can't — I mean, obviously, there are lines of speculation I don't want to shut down. Generally speaking, I shut down those lines of speculation that are plain unprofitable. Even with the shippers. God bless them, but they had a lot of fun with it. It's when people get really off the wall — it's when people devote hours of their time to proving that Snape is a vampire that I feel it's time to step in, because there's really nothing in the canon that supports that.

ES: It's when you look for those things —

JKR: Yeah, it's after the 15th rereading when you have spots in front of your eyes that you start seeing clues about Snape being the Lord of Darkness. So, there are things I shut down just because I think, well, don't waste your time, there's better stuff to be debating, and even if it's wrong, it will probably lead you somewhere interesting. That's my rough theory anyway."

"MA: Can we figure out who he is, from what we know so far?

[Note: JKR has adopted slightly evil look here] JKR: Do you have a theory?

MA: We've come up with Regulus Black.

JKR: Have you now?

MA: Uh-oh.[Laughter.]

JKR: Well, I think that would be, um, a fine guess.

MA: Let the record note that she has drummed her fingers on her Coke can in a very Mr. Burns-like way."

her answer to other questions such as if r.a.b is regulus black, she would giggle and would hint at it..she wouldn't answer but for this one, she seemed like she almost was going to shut the theory down or is it just me? i don't know.. but her reaction to both questions was different.....

Edited by Lamasat - 20 years ago
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Posted: 20 years ago
#27
I dont think Snape wanted to kill DD but I am sure he is not on the Orders side. He is on Voldy.'s side!
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Posted: 20 years ago
#28

Originally posted by: Lamasat

exactly. and seeing how bellatrix didn't trust him, may be he should done as bellatrix would have expected of him... definitely not to make the vow.. although check this out.. http://www.livejournal.com/users/ausmac/310041.html

he or she does have some very good facts to support their theory... but in j.k rowling's interview to such a question,

"MA: It goes back to the question of whether Snape is a double-double-double-triple-

JKR: [Laughs] Double-double-quadruple-to-the-power-of - yeah.

MA: …whether this had been planned, and since Dumbledore had this knowledge of Draco the whole year, had they had a discussion that said, "Should this happen, you have to act as if it is entirely your intention to just walk forward and kill me, because if you don't, Draco will die, the Unbreakable Vow, you'll die," and so on —

JKR: No, I see that, and yeah, I follow your line there. I can't — I mean, obviously, there are lines of speculation I don't want to shut down. Generally speaking, I shut down those lines of speculation that are plain unprofitable. Even with the shippers. God bless them, but they had a lot of fun with it. It's when people get really off the wall — it's when people devote hours of their time to proving that Snape is a vampire that I feel it's time to step in, because there's really nothing in the canon that supports that.

ES: It's when you look for those things —

JKR: Yeah, it's after the 15th rereading when you have spots in front of your eyes that you start seeing clues about Snape being the Lord of Darkness. So, there are things I shut down just because I think, well, don't waste your time, there's better stuff to be debating, and even if it's wrong, it will probably lead you somewhere interesting. That's my rough theory anyway."

"MA: Can we figure out who he is, from what we know so far?

[Note: JKR has adopted slightly evil look here] JKR: Do you have a theory?

MA: We've come up with Regulus Black.

JKR: Have you now?

MA: Uh-oh.[Laughter.]

JKR: Well, I think that would be, um, a fine guess.

MA: Let the record note that she has drummed her fingers on her Coke can in a very Mr. Burns-like way."

her answer to other questions such as if r.a.b is regulus black, she would giggle and would hint at it..she wouldn't answer but for this one, she seemed like she almost was going to shut the theory down or is it just me? i don't know.. but her reaction to both questions was different.....

yah i read that whole interview (their lucky..and deserving of it)

and i got the vibes that snape is bad annnd rite after book 5 came out she'd said not to trust snape so much...so the whole thing is confusing

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Posted: 20 years ago
#29

I totally agree with anya-hitomi!

coz thats exactly wat i thought!!!!!

Morgoth thumbnail
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Posted: 20 years ago
#30

Lamasat and Ish, I was thinking along similar lines when I read the interview...

Especially this part:

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MA: OK, big big big book six question. Is Snape evil?

JKR: [Almost laughing] Well, you've read the book, what do you think?

ES: She's trying to make you say it categorically.

MA: Well, there are conspiracy theorists, and there are people who will claim -

JKR: Cling to some desperate hope [laughter] -

ES: Yes!

MA: Yes!

ES: Like certain shippers we know!

[All laugh]

JKR: Well, okay, I'm obviously – Harry-Snape is now as personal, if not more so, than Harry-Voldemort. I can't answer that question because it's a spoiler, isn't it, whatever I say, and obviously, it has such a huge impact on what will happen when they meet again that I can't. And let's face it, it's going to launch 10,000 theories and I'm going to get a big kick out of reading them so [laughs] I'm evil but I just like the theories, I love the theories.

ES: I know Dumbledore likes to see the good in people but he seems trusting almost to the point of recklessness sometimes.

[Laughter] Yes, I would agree. I would agree.

ES: How can someone so -

JKR: Intelligent -

ES: be so blind with regard to certain things?

JKR: Well, there is information on that to come, in seven. But I would say that I think it has been demonstrated, particularly in books five and six that immense brainpower does not protect you from emotional mistakes and I think Dumbledore really exemplifies that. In fact, I would tend to think that being very, very intelligent might create some problems and it has done for Dumbledore, because his wisdom has isolated him, and I think you can see that in the books, because where is his equal, where is his confidante, where is his partner? He has none of those things. He's always the one who gives, he's always the one who has the insight and has the knowledge. So I think that, while I ask the reader to accept that McGonagall is a very worthy second in command, she is not an equal. You have a slightly circuitous answer, but I can't get much closer than that.

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She seems to be hinting that Dumbledore made a reckeless decision by hiring Snape...

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