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RamKiSeeta thumbnail
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Posted: 16 years ago
#11

Originally posted by: Tani91

-I prefer James/Lily more towards Severus/Lily...because I still have a tad bit dislike towards Snape. Agree! I have a soft spot for my Jamesey-poo.😳
-I think I'm the only one in this forum who actually loves Ginny😆 Don't worry, I'm with ya!
and this is a very stupid,idiotic question but can someone please explain to me what a mary-sue means?? I know its a character trait of some sort but I have no clue what it means I think a Mary-Sue means someone whose character/personality is over-used by other authors....not sure though. But I don't think Ginny's a Mary-sue. No one in the HP series is really a Mary-Sue.

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Posted: 16 years ago
#12

Originally posted by: ShadowKisses

This is totally up my forte =)

    I hate Molly Weasley because she bears uncanny resemblance to someone I know who treats others' children better than her own and walks all over her husband. I also dislike her attitude towards muggles (ref. to her criticism of them in PS). I dislike Fred, George, James and Sirius. They are bullies along with Draco etc. I really could care less about the "alpha-male-joker" excuse. Based on principle #2, I don't think James and Lily are ever that compatible. I think the death parade in DH where Sirius, James, Lily were fine with Harry dying is the dumbest idea that ever evolved from JKR. Did Lily really give up her life for her son so he could go to his death 16 years later? Narcissa is a better mother than Lily and Molly. She is shown to be more caring than Lily and Molly. Sorry, I don't account "Not after my daughter, you b*****" or suicide cheerleading as caring. Now, Narcissa risking death just to know if her son was alive? That's something in my eyes. Lucius' motives for following Voldemort are never well-defined. Lucius strikes me more as the guy who understands that royalty (purebloods) can't be superior if there aren't people of lower stature (mudbloods). DH epilogue showed Ron to be the most arrogant idiot to ever grace the surface of Earth. Obliviating muggles because he couldn't be bothered to improve his driving skills is pathetic. Harry goes through moral degeneration in the last two books. Using unforgivables, hexing teachers and students to "general applause" is really not my idea of a morally upright protagonist or a hero. Percy is probably my favourite Weasley along with Charlie and Bill (particularly because they aren't that well developed). He knows his mind and is ambitious. I hate the way JKR portrays ambition in HP series. The only way Harry gets the philosopher's stone is because he has no ambition to find it. IMO, a person without ambition is possibly the least exciting person in the world. Even for a minute, I don't believe Dumbledore to be the epitome of fairness. His blatant bias towards the Gryffindors evokes nausea. The fact that he isn't ever called on it like Snape or Umbridge irritates me to no end. I think Ron, post-PS, is an idiot. I really could care less about comic relief Ron. HBP changed my perspective of Hermione. That she would do something as immature as sending canaries, sabotaging others bothers me. Whatever happened to being fair? She doesn't seem to care much about her self-esteem either, does she? After all, sulking for a boy to notice you and acting like a lovesick puppy who has been kicked in the teeth because the object of her affection dates someone else is hardly dignified. Wonder where the spitfire from GoF went. Ginny Weasley is a Mary Sue. Short of rewriting the books, JKR won't be able to convince me otherwise -- the evidence is that compelling. I can't see how James Potter is oh-so-brave. He is reckless. Since when did bravery equate idiotic recklessness? Arthur's fascination with muggles is not endearing. If he's so fascinated, why the ruddy hell doesn't he pick up a book and start learning? His fascination shows a patronizing attitude towards muggles which is just as condescending as Lucius's beliefs that they are worthless. I hated that a mother of seven killed a woman who choses not to be a mother. That is not empowerment. I rather wish Bellatrix - despite her allegiance to LV - had killed her as that would have been more empowering from a feminist POV. I despise JKR's moral message which is basically that so long as you are one of the good guys, you can do anything the bad guys can do and not face the same consequences. It is is simplistic, and wrong. One cannot be innately good or bad -- it's our choices that define our moral character. Despite saying that, JKR proceeds to prove that choices are secondary to breeding. I hate the canon young-Lupin. Sure, he didn't bully anyone but he didn't stop his friends from unnecessarily bullying anyone. That's just as bad in my book. I'm not sure I like adult Lupin because he obviously cared more about a cause than his own son. Again, recklessness is not bravery. I don't like canon-Draco though some parts of his personality intrigue me. I think there was a lot of potential in his character that JKR left unused. JKR's 'true love' couples - RWHG, HPGW, MWAW - are unconvincing. I have no doubts that had these couples existed in real life, they'd have divorced. In canon, I enjoy that Snape is Victim turned Bully. In real life, I wouldn't have. That's the sort of behaviour that I find intolerable because it has the victim becoming what they hate. Dumbledore is the HP character that I dislike the most. I'm the last person to like Sirius but that AD discredited him hours after his death in front of someone who obviously thinks the world of him left a bitter taste in my mouth. My hatred of AD stems from the fact that JKR praises him to be the white hot tower of blinding truth yada yada yara bravery etc instead of the tactless, unfair person he is. How is that for irony. I think Draco and pre-HBP Hermione would have made a great couple.
  1. Harry is better matched with Buckbeak than he is with Ginny.

I think that's about it. =)

Oh, wow. LOL ;) I see a lot of things differently, but this is for unpopular opinions...so why argue? 😆
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Posted: 16 years ago
#13

Originally posted by: Tani91

-I actually love Narcissa Malfoy for some weird reason....have no idea why I just love that character
and this is a very stupid,idiotic question but can someone please explain to me what a mary-sue means?? I know its a character trait of some sort but I have no clue what it means

More power to you for saying that.
I'd be cheeky and say "See Bella Swan" but that really wouldn't be helpful 😛 In the simplest terms, Mary Sue is a character that is too perfect or is idealized a lot. She is unbelievably pretty and denies this as many times as she possibly can. Most guys love her, every girl want to be her for no real reason. Usually, Mary Sue has no actual personality but is said to have traits that are desirable like super-strength, intelligence beyond belief, magical strengths that no one has, one grey eye, one blue eye etc. Mary Sues are the epitome of bad writing because they are created for the purpose of authorial wishfulfillment wherein the author puts in what they regard as the ideal being and whitewash any flaws - portraying them to be good traits instead. The tell-tale sign of a Mary Sue is that she is never regarded in negative light. She is always shown to be right, perfect etc.
If you are interested in Mary Sue for a reason that I can't guess, you might want to read this article: https://www.merrycoz.org/papers/MARYSUE.HTM. Pflieger describes it much better than I could.
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Posted: 16 years ago
#14

Originally posted by: Tani91

hehehehe cool topic....um ok I'll try to think of mine:

-Harry/Hermione were totally a couple for me...ever since the 1st book when Harry and Ron saved her from the troll...I had already imagined them as a couple...so I was a bit pissed in the 4th one where there were obvious signs of Hermione/Ron pairing As a kid when I was in like grade 3 I saw R/Hr but I re-read the books earlier this year and Harmony was just starting to make a lot more sense.
-I was shocked and actually threw my copy of HBP to the ground when Harry was jealous of Dean...lol
-I actually love Narcissa Malfoy for some weird reason....have no idea why I just love that character
-I also agree that Scorpious is a heck of a name😛 and IMO Deathly Hallows is the best book EVER written (lol yes I'm a rabid fan girl of DH)SCORPIUS is an amazing name.
-I prefer James/Lily more towards Severus/Lily...because I still have a tad bit dislike towards Snape.
-I think I'm the only one in this forum who actually loves Ginny😆I liked Ginny in GoF and ootp :)
-Daniel Radcliffe--sexy to the core😍
and this is a very stupid,idiotic question but can someone please explain to me what a mary-sue means?? I know its a character trait of some sort but I have no clue what it means

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Posted: 16 years ago
#16
I have a question, was Voldemort evil due to that fact that it's just his nature (he was born evil) or was it his nurture?

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Posted: 16 years ago
#17
^^ I don't think anyone is born evil.... in Voldemort's case, I think that he wasn't taught properly about what's right and what's not... and he probably wouldn't have tried to learn either because from as far back as he could remember, he had seen that people who had power were better off than him... and so the idea just stuck in his mind until he couldn't care less how he got powerful just as long as he did.... and that's exactly what happened :)
P.S. I like Ginny too :P LOL
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Posted: 16 years ago
#18

Originally posted by: ShadowKisses

More power to you for saying that.
I'd be cheeky and say "See Bella Swan" but that really wouldn't be helpful 😛 In the simplest terms, Mary Sue is a character that is too perfect or is idealized a lot. She is unbelievably pretty and denies this as many times as she possibly can. Most guys love her, every girl want to be her for no real reason. Usually, Mary Sue has no actual personality but is said to have traits that are desirable like super-strength, intelligence beyond belief, magical strengths that no one has, one grey eye, one blue eye etc. Mary Sues are the epitome of bad writing because they are created for the purpose of authorial wishfulfillment wherein the author puts in what they regard as the ideal being and whitewash any flaws - portraying them to be good traits instead. The tell-tale sign of a Mary Sue is that she is never regarded in negative light. She is always shown to be right, perfect etc.
If you are interested in Mary Sue for a reason that I can't guess, you might want to read this article: https://www.merrycoz.org/papers/MARYSUE.HTM. Pflieger describes it much better than I could.

😆😆😆 I knew Bella Swan was coming up in this discussion....thanks so much for explaining😊
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Posted: 16 years ago
#19

Originally posted by: -Navi

I have a question, was Voldemort evil due to that fact that it's just his nature (he was born evil) or was it his nurture?

Neither and Both
No one is born evil. I honestly believe all babies are innocent, meaning every person is born completely pure and it will depend on the people bringing them up to instill in them good morals. Tom Riddle was born into a loveless atmosphere, where kids made fun of him, the heads of the orphanage were not very affectionate, and where he was ostracized for being "different" due to the exhibition of his magical powers at a very young age. This was bound to make a huge impact in Riddle's personality and beliefs about life. Like Chhilt said, he was given proof that only those who had power over others were not ostracized. People feared them because of their power, and he too wanted that. It was better having people fear you than you fearing others.
However, I do not believe nurture alone can shape a person either. There have been people who were brought up in extreme loveless atmosphere where they were both mentally and physically tortured, but they grew up to be decent people who worked for their freedom and happiness in the end. I think the genes of parents also make a difference on a child's personality.
Take Riddle's parents for examples. His dad was one of those proud rich folk who didn't give a care about others. He left his wife unsupported when she was pregnant (though that was her own fault since she bewitched him by a love potion, if he had a good heart he still could have supported her until she gave birth). Riddle's uncle was a sadistic person who enjoyed seeing others in pain and took pleasure in watching animals die a slow painful death. His grandfather was a power hungry person who'd go to any measure not to have his family name smeared. The only decent relation of Riddle's was his mother, but she was too weak to support herself and losing her before he even knew her didn't help his upbringing.
So I think both nature and nurture worked together to make Riddle the person he grew up to be. If either of these were more favorable than the other, he might have turned out to be an okay person, but both nature and nurture were against Tom Riddle.
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Posted: 15 years ago
#20
Dan acted awfully in d 5/6th movie.
i love ron more than harry..:P,n no it isnt bec of rupert..i seriously thnk ron was one of his kind,plain human,with shades of selfishness n insecurity,which made him more imaginable than d other characters...
i dont like ginny wither,too dramatic,preffered harry with luna.
would have loved if neville was given more importance in the buks...

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