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Posted: 7 years ago
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@ Anshvi
I have already said what i wanted to. It is also obvious that our view points are not going to match in this regard.

Saying same thing again and again in different words doesnt suit any purpose and is a sheer waste of time and energy.

So lets just agree to disagree.
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Posted: 7 years ago
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Originally posted by: _Payalj_

@ Anshvi

I have already said what i wanted to. It is also obvious that our view points are not going to match in this regard.

Saying same thing again and again in different words doesnt suit any purpose and is a sheer waste of time and energy.

So lets just agree to disagree.



Correct !

I stand at my point of view and u at urs

Better to agree to disagree and move on !
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Posted: 7 years ago
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I think everyone has its own perspective. Some people like aanchal and ranveer, some like aanchal and kabir. We should respect everyone's pov as loving or liking somebody comes from our heart, we don't use our mind. So let it be like the way it is..
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Posted: 7 years ago
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Originally posted by: _Payalj_

Chemistry between a couple is totally dependent upon the way the story is built provided the actors are good. If one feels an emotional connect with the pair then automatically there is chemistry.

Further there is nothing wrong about liking one couple. All of us do that nor is there any harm in proclaiming that couple A is better than couple B. We are under no moral obligation to like what we are served. It is our right to disagree, to dislike.

It is only when while these proclamations cross the line of decency that the problem starts. When people just to prove their point start shouting that the show flopped because of a particular couple being given importance. And when it becomes for them a point of ego then they dont even stop to think what their words are implying or how much injury they might be causing.

Liking someones bromance and liking romance are different. Their one can be the supporting character and here the main.

Proclaiming again and again that the scenes in which Vatsal is the main character didnt work and constantly listing and reiterating it as the main cause of shows premature demise, not once but mulitple times, to get even with some people is right? Did Vatsal ever respond to the idiocy producers or the writer did? Did he ever block, misbehave or Troll? Then How Was It Right To Make him the scapegoat for Someone else's Immaturity and idiocy?

Didnt we only succeed in proving that we are As immature as the person our words were aimed at?

The intention might not be wrong, but since when words aimed simply at proving someone wrong or proving onself right, been wise?


I think this forum was hugely biased to Aanvir as a couple.
But twitter does have many aanbir fans. For me either couple would have been ok if the story was worth watching.
But I would never blame couple chemistry for the failure of the show like people are doing.
They should have shown all 3 characters manipulating each which would have given the fun and thrill factor.
Taking Vatsal's case itself, his last show he had fabulous chemistry with his now wife Ishita but the show failed.

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Posted: 7 years ago
#35

Originally posted by: _Payalj_



I have seen tweets. Instead of categorically saying that the story is nonsense, people are continuously degrading Anbir or that they dont want anbir, they want anvir. Does it not imply that there is something lacking in the male counterpart?

A good actor is able to generate chemistry with any actress. Is it the actors fault that the love story was handled in a bad manner. Constantly tweeting aanveer wanted and anbir doesnt work simply and squarely puts the entire burden of the shows failure on vatsals shoulders

Do You seriously think it will not have any impact on Vatsal's career?



No it only implies that there's somethig very wrong with the plot and script writers.

People wanted Aanvir because it was developed beautifully and sensibly until the script writers forced in Aanbir and then did a complete disservice to Ranveer in order to uplift and promote their 'hero' and 'ship'.

Aanbir as a ship ruined the plot, all the respective characters involved and the direction. Every single character including Kabir had to be ruined for this ship to work (not that it did work).

It's not our fault if Vatsal's career is impacted, he knew what he was getting into. Why should we promote an abusive and toxic relationship for the sake of one man (and before you say Aanveer is abusive too, most people on here shipped it before the 180 degree turn and stopped shipping after that whereas Aanbir was always abusive from the beginning itself).

People have the right to make their dissatisfaction heard on any platform, why should we put up w/ bad story telling and a badly written abusive ship for the sake of one actor.

If CVS don't receive any criticism...then there's no hope they will even attempt to correct their wrongs and I've not seen anyone blame Vatsal for anything.
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Posted: 7 years ago
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No it only implies that there's somethig very wrong with the plot and script writers.

People wanted Aanvir because it was developed beautifully and sensibly until the script writers forced in Aanbir and then did a complete disservice to Ranveer in order to uplift and promote their 'hero' and 'ship'.

Aanbir as a ship ruined the plot, all the respective characters involved and the direction. Every single character including Kabir had to be ruined for this ship to work (not that it did work).

It's not our fault if Vatsal's career is impacted, he knew what he was getting into. Why should we promote an abusive and toxic relationship for the sake of one man (and before you say Aanveer is abusive too, most people on here shipped it before the 180 degree turn and stopped shipping after that whereas Aanbir was always abusive from the beginning itself).

People have the right to make their dissatisfaction heard on any platform, why should we put up w/ bad story telling and a badly written abusive ship for the sake of one actor.

If CVS don't receive any criticism...then there's no hope they will even attempt to correct their wrongs and I've not seen anyone blame Vatsal for anything.


Absolutely agree !
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Posted: 7 years ago
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@ the title:

I lost faith the day I found out that the script writers themselves didn't know the difference between a grey character and a pure black character nor the difference between a hero and a villain (Kabir was never a hero, attempted drowning/ stranding FL in the middle of the sea/ bullying FLs brother etc)

And on top of that, they were so arrogant refusing to listen to any criticism whatsoever and giving out some b/s excuse about the show being for rural audience (these people are truly blind and honestly lacking in the brains department, every business man knows their targeted audience and have some decent knowledge of their products...these guys don't even know what a thriller is much less anything else)
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Posted: 7 years ago
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There is a difference between criticising and mocking. Same way there is a difference between expressing dissatisfaction and trolling.
Everybody criticises. Even i have been continously criticising the show for its story content picturisation pairing and so on.

The problem is with the online media, we sometimes behave in a fashion we would never in real life and forget that the other party is also human. In order to put our point across , we cross the limts of common deceny and start resorting to what is harrasement plain and simple.

In fact one tweet of the show writer really hit me hard- the troll doesnt know it is a troll.

Just because they have made a show, is it the moral obligation of the producers to listen to every humilating tweet and if being human and sick of being insulted they block a tweet, we engage in mocking and humiliating them.

Fine they made mistakes, they made a sub standard product and we didnt like it. There is a limit to which the story can be changed - afterall it involves fund outlay.

There is a limit to which a mistake can be corrected. If they go on record and said ok our pairing and planning failed, then they end up facing much more severe backlash and lose whatever viewers they have as who will watch a show the producers themselves are calling bad.

Is it so necessary to rub thier failure in their faces . What else will they do if not try to avoid?

Are we all ourselves such great successful individuals that we go on humilating and mocking others for their failures? Would we have appreciated if treated like this for every failure?

What does it say about a person who kicks someone when he is down and out? I am least connected with these people but am seriously feeling bad at what is going on, so conveyed my thoughts.

I reiterate i am not talking about the normal criticism at all. What seriouy offended me was the systematic humiliation programme going on twitter and twitter alone.

You all please continue, i will not comment on this topic again

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Posted: 7 years ago
#39

Originally posted by: _Payalj_

There is a difference between criticising and mocking. Same way there is a difference between expressing dissatisfaction and trolling.

Everybody criticises. Even i have been continously criticising the show for its story content picturisation pairing and so on.

The problem is with the online media, we sometimes behave in a fashion we would never in real life and forget that the other party is also human. In order to put our point across , we cross the limts of common deceny and start resorting to what is harrasement plain and simple.

In fact one tweet of the show writer really hit me hard- the troll doesnt know it is a troll.

Just because they have made a show, is it the moral obligation of the producers to listen to every humilating tweet and if being human and sick of being insulted they block a tweet, we engage in mocking and humiliating them.

Fine they made mistakes, they made a sub standard product and we didnt like it. There is a limit to which the story can be changed - afterall it involves fund outlay.

There is a limit to which a mistake can be corrected. If they go on record and said ok our pairing and planning failed, then they end up facing much more severe backlash and lose whatever viewers they have as who will watch a show the producers themselves are calling bad.

Is it so necessary to rub thier failure in their faces . What else will they do if not try to avoid?

Are we all ourselves such great successful individuals that we go on humilating and mocking others for their failures? Would we have appreciated if treated like this for every failure?

What does it say about a person who kicks someone when he is down and out? I am least connected with these people but am seriously feeling bad at what is going on, so conveyed my thoughts.

I reiterate i am not talking about the normal criticism at all. What seriouy offended me was the systematic humiliation programme going on twitter and twitter alone.

You all please continue, i will not comment on this topic again


very sensible post.
Very few people realize the repercussions of constantly humiliating someone and it is not mature at all.
It is always the same set of people who repeatedly will post the same on twitter.
These people were just not ready to give the other couple a chance even though they really had some great scenes.
This is the same happening for the other show EDT.
Edited by -swati- - 7 years ago
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Posted: 7 years ago
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Originally posted by: _Payalj_

There is a difference between criticising and mocking. Same way there is a difference between expressing dissatisfaction and trolling.

Everybody criticises. Even i have been continously criticising the show for its story content picturisation pairing and so on.

The problem is with the online media, we sometimes behave in a fashion we would never in real life and forget that the other party is also human. In order to put our point across , we cross the limts of common deceny and start resorting to what is harrasement plain and simple.

In fact one tweet of the show writer really hit me hard- the troll doesnt know it is a troll.

Just because they have made a show, is it the moral obligation of the producers to listen to every humilating tweet and if being human and sick of being insulted they block a tweet, we engage in mocking and humiliating them.

Fine they made mistakes, they made a sub standard product and we didnt like it. There is a limit to which the story can be changed - afterall it involves fund outlay.

There is a limit to which a mistake can be corrected. If they go on record and said ok our pairing and planning failed, then they end up facing much more severe backlash and lose whatever viewers they have as who will watch a show the producers themselves are calling bad.

Is it so necessary to rub thier failure in their faces . What else will they do if not try to avoid?

Are we all ourselves such great successful individuals that we go on humilating and mocking others for their failures? Would we have appreciated if treated like this for every failure?

What does it say about a person who kicks someone when he is down and out? I am least connected with these people but am seriously feeling bad at what is going on, so conveyed my thoughts.

I reiterate i am not talking about the normal criticism at all. What seriouy offended me was the systematic humiliation programme going on twitter and twitter alone.

You all please continue, i will not comment on this topic again


Systematic humiliation !

There are always 2 sides of a coin
Please check writers' tweets

Sammeer kept interacting with AaBir fans and encouraged them to come online and interact there about AaBir

He never once appreciated any AanVir tweet

On top of that there was a poll that AanVir won..Sameer replied that this will soon change as story is remaining..He never acknowledged AanVir

He kept telling AaBir fan club on their personal chat that Ranvir is not a villain and asked them for their feedback

When few fans expressed their disappointment and by disappointment I mean only that and no trolling whatsoever ..he blocked them and this is a fact !

Radhika also chats with AaBir fans which is cool but neglected AanVir fans was just plain biased behaviour

If u notice there were many tweets asking Sid to repeat Zayed and Niki as a couple but Radhika made sure she retweeted the one which wanted Niki and Vatsal...now tell me something..as a writer shouldn't she be unbiased ! Shouldn't she have retweeted both tweets...should we assume that she disrespected Zayed in this case 😕

Also makers and writers claimed that Ranvir is grey and debated so much with fans about this...they claimed that he is not the villain

Now u r saying they Can't admit...if they Can't admit then shouldn't they have made excuses as well..why not stay silent in this case.

They kept saying Ranvir is grey which was never the case.

If I was a writer I would have stayed quite rather than trying to prove a point which wasn't even correct

If I was a writer I would have made sure that I interacted and acknowledged all the fans be if AanVir or AaBir

They are getting criticised not only for their plot but also coz of their behaviour which was pretty harsh, biased and uncalled for

Tali ek haath se NAHI bajti...also I still don't think people have called names or bashed the writers...yes they have been mocked for their lies , their biasee behaviour and their content but they themselves are also responsible for this and not entirely the fans

Yes I agree that fans should not cross their limits and I haven't seen them abusing or harassing the writers as much as you are saying

Also as writers they should also know how to behave and respond to fans

Lying to fans , findign excuses to justify something which is not even true, being biased it something that doesn't suit writers of such stature

At least they will now learn that grey is not black..hopefully!

It's not like they are the victims while fans are the culprits..it is more of an action reaction situation


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