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Posted: 13 years ago
#11

Originally posted by: desigrl05

it might've been the best immediate thing to do for then hence the decisions

it is hard to get into any college w/ any kind of legal offense attached to your name..so i can understand their position on it..
and apparently anjali did continue to write? if that is the case then its great..you dont need any degree to publish a book just good work and a publisher that is willing... but i have to say 25 and having 2 kids would not be my option of a 'good' life either...both kids were ambitious and to have their life turning out like that is kinda sad :|

I agree at that time it might have been the best they could do, but later they could try to change for better.
anjali did not write, but if that is truly her passion then she will defo write. 25 with 2 kids is not that bad, she probably have twins or kids little apart, they will grow soon and she will have more time than needed at hand to do what she wants. it is in her hands to turn it into good life:D.
ditto to the last line, both being ambitious , just settling down compromising is really sad.
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Posted: 13 years ago
#12
totally agree
indian societyyy !!!!!!!!!!!dont want to say aout more . here peolpe mentality never change... they r the "ravan" behind the face ... they r happy to see other in trouble . they enjoy this all things

in india for girls every mistake's has one solution and tht was "marriage".. here people marry under social pressure or born more n more children .nobdy ask bride and groom wht they want !!!!
only in metro's may be 1 or 2 % people understand otherwise still in small city and villages have very bad situation.
really felt bad for anjali ..hope she become writer one day ...but if people suppert her tht day and help her family to come out from all scandal then the picture will be different .. but who cares ..evrybody wants entertainment woh dialouge he na """"""""jab sharafat ke kapde utarate he to sabse jyada maja sharifo ko hi aata he"""""""bitter but real truth
and really hats off vikas gupta and balaji for this type of hatke and awarness programme .
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Posted: 13 years ago
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I just passed by today :)Truly speaking I like the start when Anjali said ''what's the big deal?'' to the media.
A critical analysis of this episode involve different perspectives.
My analysis: SOCIETY POINT OF VIEW
It is morally incorrect and illegal for minors (girls/boys) under 16 to involve in physical intimacy.
We should definitely understand that we have been evolved and educated - the only reason we are said not to involve in physical intimacy is not because what others are going to think but because our bodies are not yet properly developed in order to accept the intercourse.
Has the show rightly deliver the message?
I guess this is where the host plays an important role to the teens. He said ''it is not cool'' and that was impactful. It is really not cool but then what was really ''NOT COOL'' - ''the self surrender'' or ''the sharing of that intimate moment''?
I should applaud the fact that it was focused towards ''Sharing the intimate moment'' was not a cool thing to do, and that also out of male ego and male anger. A moment of anger and ego failed two persons who were attracted to each other's lives - the same couple who could either call quits when they grew up or get into life.
What is the hidden part of the show?
Who ruined the lives of these teenagers? Were they to be blamed? Was the other guy who posted the video only to be blamed or is there another hidden culprit who we failed to recognise?
From toppers to strugglers - the drastic twist in the life of Arpit and Anjalie?
Where both of them decided to escape from ''shame'' - Why this reaction?
Is it out of fear? Is it the fear of what others will tell them? or is it because the news was leaked everywhere around the world?
At the age of 25, mother of 2 - she may be happy and we can not judge her if it was her decision to rebuild her life by starting in marriage phase but it did not seem like this - it seemed the wedding was more like a parents' decisions - was it the real solution for the life of Anjali? Her mother resigned out of shame of her daughter???
It is again true that parents are part to be blamed - not only in the awareness on sex education but also on whether they would like to build their lives again by themselves or live on what others will think of them.
There was a hidden destructor of these kids' lives and that was the media?
When the girl and boy could still be unrevealed identity - media decided to sell their mistakes in order to make money? IS IT MORALLY CORRECT? The guy decided to sell on the internet and he was vile , however, he is not the only one to blame, majority of the blame goes to the media?
HOW A MISTAKE TURNS TO A SCANDAL -
A mistake can be rectified if only people who should be aware of it decided to solve it between themselves.
Another chance is permissible in this life , if the right persons are involved in it?
The video could have been sold but she is not the only girl who did it - there are so many gossips and leaked videos about celebs about worst videos like that - how come then that the celebs are still respected and that poor common girl has to change a line in her life????
If the name of the kids and families were kept anonymous, their lives would still be on a better sail - however media decided to spice the story,decided to ruin the family, defame the lives of the people - and that single mistake brought reputation of the family down - Should we still blame the victims only? Are media not also the one need to get on HOLD?
ON THE SAME GROUNDS OF SHARING INFORMATION ON ONE PRIVATE MOMENT IS ILLEGAL - WHAT IS THE MEDIA DOING?
The teenagers must respect the elders, by experience, those who are older than us have a better point. In teenage days, we are still discovering ourselves, we do not know yet what we really want and tend to follow what our caring persons thought best for us, it is true that many teenagers want to explore sexuality as a new awe for them but this is because they really have not proper knowledge on it. Many people nowadays grow from a dark experience and there is a high percentage where the dark phase involve around the ''physical closeness'' of the persons - we can not really each time guide or impose our beliefs to those persons who do not value our wise thoughts. However the only reason I personally feel why it is incorrect for minors not to involve in sexual intimacy because they have not yet live their identity fully,it will take them at least 8 years more to become who they really want and what they really are- where they can take their decisions by themselves, responsible of their actions, answerable to their consequences, and can also defy to some point of views of people they love as they know what they really want in life and how to achieve it.
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Posted: 13 years ago
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btw to this case are they referring to that huge scandal that broke out in delhi in 2004? ----------------
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here's what I found online:
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About the DPS MMS Scandal

The nation along with the parents, teachers and children received a shock in 2004 when two students of Delhi Public School in New Delhi were captured having sex on camera. This case brought a lot of shame to the schools and families involved and the children involved have been sent to different countries abroad. The case also brought forward the MMS facilities in mobile phone across India
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Edited by desigrl05 - 13 years ago
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Posted: 13 years ago
#15
@desigirl
I just read about it in wiki - it can seem that the episode 1 is more like an inspired theme rather than hundred percent the real story - i guess if it is so , then, it is building the story to extreme case where it brings awareness rather than digging on its past.
I duno much about cases like this in india but the case that it referred, i know one similar case in my homecountry - a little worse than this one where the girl was consented on the action and consented to be filmed and consented (when we were thinking that she might have drugged) - on group action - the family of the parties remained anonymous other than those who really know the ''participants'' - those who participated to leak the videos were sentenced to few years imprisonment and they were all bright students who had bright future - coming from well off familly - some of the participants flew away from the homecountry when the case came , police force traced all the participants.
Shockingly, the only thing was then about having it with a minor (girl aged 16) - even if she said she consented (few people knew about it, only who knew her) - but media hid that part because of her parents who worked in the media field - the guys involved were sentenced and the girl was sent abroad, where she continued her studies.
Strange, is not it, suddenly the victims are seemed to be the guys and yeah i then remembered that this case was referred to the one in delhi - surprisingly that people of my country too were aware about it - at that time all i knew was a bright teen video was leaked -even if it was something of a year difference.
Noises were everywhere but as Gumrah highlighted - are they culprits or victims?
Edited by Du_Nish - 13 years ago
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Posted: 13 years ago
#16
good analysis...its is sad to see such bright young people do damaging things to their future like that..
and on the show front i kinda wished it was atleast closer to the truth rather than being based off of it...it would've given a little more interest for me atleast.. but nonetheless it is a very good show
in india the topic of sex and what not are talked in hushed tones or if not at all.. i think parents/schools should atleast give an awareness so that innocent people are not taken off gaurd as to what is right and wrong.. but in this matter..i think the girl should've been knwoing better..she got 90+ marks in studies but not even half that percentage she has in common sense...i dunno it seems very obvious to me to not let anyone take intimate moments of yourself as you have no control where it may end up
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Posted: 13 years ago
#17
so the story isnt close to the truth?😕
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Posted: 13 years ago
#18
@jaya - that is so true, log tamasha dekhne ke liye tayyar rehte hai naa ki unka madad kare. People should take it as social responsibility , but that hardly happens. society hum logon se banti hai and today's children have to live in the society we are gonna create. When I was in college, a girl whose wedding was fixed was harassed by a boy, he thought if he marrs her reputation she will have no other choice but to marry him. he pasted posters around college. but he took panga with wrong girl, she paraded him in front of everyone hitting him with chappal with so many girls behind supporting her and holding that guy so he wont escape. she had a influential friend so that guy could not even think of taking revenge or any did any egoistic move. he would have been killed if he did. nor did anyone blame the girl for anything, because she made sure in public that people know he was the one who is the culprit and she had nothing to do with it.
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Posted: 13 years ago
#19
When I read the case on wiki - i shared the same opinion as shibz and desigirl - i wish the show is close to real facts rather than inspired theme
We were all feeling weird on the dramatised twist of these teens and now - wohoo - reality comes that the ending was kinda made up - I hope Gumrah does not show it from societical image - i mean - it will be like the media's view rather than what individuals thought
I guess something i will like where the show to improve
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Posted: 13 years ago
#20

Originally posted by: Du_Nish

I just passed by today :)Truly speaking I like the start when Anjali said ''what's the big deal?'' to the media. - I too liked it when she said what's the bid deal, she was brave or may be it was audacity still she had the spark to tell off all those reporters who expected her to 'talk' when clearly she was being led inside with her face covered, reporters were doing their job but were they right in asking questions when they knew the girl is hardly 17. the way the reporter left the office and hurried to the place I felt may be anjali hurt herself, but they were all off in such hurry so they can catch the kid before she goes inside the station. if they did not then how can they give a spicy story to their paper. but in truth it was a big deal.

A critical analysis of this episode involve different perspectives.
My analysis: SOCIETY POINT OF VIEW
It is morally incorrect and illegal for minors (girls/boys) under 16 to involve in physical intimacy.
We should definitely understand that we have been evolved and educated - the only reason we are said not to involve in physical intimacy is not because what others are going to think but because our bodies are not yet properly developed in order to accept the intercourse. - ditto nisha. kids should be busy busy busy, so their mind doesnot wander off to such things.
Has the show rightly deliver the message?
I guess this is where the host plays an important role to the teens. He said ''it is not cool'' and that was impactful. It is really not cool but then what was really ''NOT COOL'' - ''the self surrender'' or ''the sharing of that intimate moment''?
I should applaud the fact that it was focused towards ''Sharing the intimate moment'' was not a cool thing to do, and that also out of male ego and male anger. A moment of anger and ego failed two persons who were attracted to each other's lives - the same couple who could either call quits when they grew up or get into life. - that was the highlight of the episode where focus was put on one's morality. would people watch or share if it is one of their family members? Karan was very impactful in putting it across.
What is the hidden part of the show?
Who ruined the lives of these teenagers? Were they to be blamed? Was the other guy who posted the video only to be blamed or is there another hidden culprit who we failed to recognise?
From toppers to strugglers - the drastic twist in the life of Arpit and Anjalie?
Where both of them decided to escape from ''shame'' - Why this reaction?
Is it out of fear? Is it the fear of what others will tell them? or is it because the news was leaked everywhere around the world?
At the age of 25, mother of 2 - she may be happy and we can not judge her if it was her decision to rebuild her life by starting in marriage phase but it did not seem like this - it seemed the wedding was more like a parents' decisions - was it the real solution for the life of Anjali? Her mother resigned out of shame of her daughter???
It is again true that parents are part to be blamed - not only in the awareness on sex education but also on whether they would like to build their lives again by themselves or live on what others will think of them.
There was a hidden destructor of these kids' lives and that was the media?
When the girl and boy could still be unrevealed identity - media decided to sell their mistakes in order to make money? IS IT MORALLY CORRECT? The guy decided to sell on the internet and he was vile , however, he is not the only one to blame, majority of the blame goes to the media?
HOW A MISTAKE TURNS TO A SCANDAL -
A mistake can be rectified if only people who should be aware of it decided to solve it between themselves.
Another chance is permissible in this life , if the right persons are involved in it?
The video could have been sold but she is not the only girl who did it - there are so many gossips and leaked videos about celebs about worst videos like that - how come then that the celebs are still respected and that poor common girl has to change a line in her life????
If the name of the kids and families were kept anonymous, their lives would still be on a better sail - however media decided to spice the story,decided to ruin the family, defame the lives of the people - and that single mistake brought reputation of the family down - Should we still blame the victims only? Are media not also the one need to get on HOLD?
ON THE SAME GROUNDS OF SHARING INFORMATION ON ONE PRIVATE MOMENT IS ILLEGAL - WHAT IS THE MEDIA DOING?
The teenagers must respect the elders, by experience, those who are older than us have a better point. In teenage days, we are still discovering ourselves, we do not know yet what we really want and tend to follow what our caring persons thought best for us, it is true that many teenagers want to explore sexuality as a new awe for them but this is because they really have not proper knowledge on it. Many people nowadays grow from a dark experience and there is a high percentage where the dark phase involve around the ''physical closeness'' of the persons - we can not really each time guide or impose our beliefs to those persons who do not value our wise thoughts. However the only reason I personally feel why it is incorrect for minors not to involve in sexual intimacy because they have not yet live their identity fully,it will take them at least 8 years more to become who they really want and what they really are- where they can take their decisions by themselves, responsible of their actions, answerable to their consequences, and can also defy to some point of views of people they love as they know what they really want in life and how to achieve it.

Awesome analysis nisha, will read the rest and edit my post soon.
Edited by kavyasam - 13 years ago

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