Despondency, Denial, & Declarations!

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Hello everyone!

So back with the week's drill, posting today's clips below. After the mesmerizing sequence in the aam bagh, and those coveted desires frothing to the surface between the two leads, here comes the intense stuff. Kesar in every shade of his element for Gulaal; and Gulaal, confessing for the first time, about her love for him - albeit a far cry from the love confession. But hey, we have proof to nail her down with being the first one to bring up the 'paap ki bhavna' now 😆

Anyway - for the record, Nur has three exams this week; and from the looks of it, I might have a heavy schedule at least up to Thursday - so we may be doing alternate day posts, and Nur did say she's likely to get to the caps for each post later than usual - wanted to make sure you people new about the altered POA for this week.

That said - I'm making this post earlier than my usual hour, cause I'll be caught up with a conference call then. Will try and post the written as soon as I can. But the clips are here for now - and wait up no one to come chip in your respective takes on this very eventful selection for the day!

Cheers - and hugs to all 🤗

Jzee

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Posted: 13 years ago
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Scene 1

sadu is a secret softie! 😆

Okay I know this scene is played out intense and urgent for like 3 quarters of its latter duration - but I find this title so apt for the entire Kesar in a trance pretending sadu transforms to Kesar the desperate knight on rescue mission!

There's very little to intricately analyse in this scene - because its quite plain and straightforward - but I'd like to point out somethings nonetheless. I love how they show the variation in Gulaal's mood here, a steady elevation from the dreamy daze to an active animated appreciation. Yes, she tells Talli its dream like - but just at the beginning of this clip, when the boat ride has kicked off, Gulaal is more in the this dream is real mode, than i must be dreaming mode from the orchard. I like to think the change in her has somehow stemmed from that little but significant wordless positive exchange of vibes with Kesar. His humble helping hand - the unexpected concern from him - if coming out in the open like this had managed to snap her from a routine and cast her away into happier times and memories, Kesar's attention and soft attitude - which is real now and here - is all it takes for her to embrace the change. Not question it to be temporary, not question why, what, how - only embrace her little serendipitous chance where everything seems so right. When she tells Talli that its all so dreamlike - inside my head I translate it to include the change of Kesar's temperament for her, as part of the 'dream-like' !
And Kesar himself? I love the way he's a relaxed smiling face at the very start - the 'conscious-awkward-should I, should I not' stance cast aside. For him, I like to think, Gulaal's easy, guileless and throw no attitude acceptance of that hand he offers her to stand up - loosens him up, eases out the strains, for now. Although he takes his own sweet time realizing this - and confessing it verbally in the finale week, teri khushi mein hi khush hu - Kesar here manages to embrace the unspoken camaraderie of the moment, the temporary lapse in cold fronts and walls, because Gulaal has always had that effect on people - particularly him. When she is truly happy, the happiness exuding from her heart - Kesar has never managed to find it in himself to hold up anything between them, or against her. Think about their first moment after his return - her pure, unaltered happiness, it melts him in a nano second. Think about the imli scene. And think about the aam bagheecha from minutes ago. Gulaal in her unhesitating happiness rubs off on him, no matter what his alter plan was/is. And that happens to him here. When Gulaal accepts her transient experience of freedom unconditionally, Kesar can't help his smile, his fondness, his affection - the shifting of his heart in tandem with her sheer delight. He sits there watching her be this little girl - and even at this early stage, we see a glimpse of that role reversal we will see often enough in later times - where Gulaal is the kid, and Kesar feels that compulsive protective strain, an innate prideful affection in subconsciously feeling that's my girl... I like also, how this peak of Gulaal's happy streak in this entire detouring scheme Talli plots, comes at this point, where the once named Nirja is in the middle of nothing but water around! Its almost befitting, that the presence of water should awaken this abandon in her, erasing the last traces of any restrain.

And then of course, the entire play a fake prank - where credit to Kesar, he does start just for a second at Talli's fall, before shaking it off as a prank that it is - and of course, Gulaal being Gulaal cannot but butt into a problem deeming upon herself the moral obligation to solve every problem, sigh, jumps after her! Kesar's transition of expressions, his instant alert, like an alarm has gone off, and although Talli's words shake him up and have him make that jump, really, he knows the moment she jumps, that this is no prank now.
Thank heavens to whoever is responsible for not making that 'Kesar runs to save' sequence last for half an episode's worth, to not show us in the face dramatic turns and twists of the camera capturing every little redundant detail, like the color of his shoe laces (oops, he doesn't have any 😆 ) basically - yes I had to say this - thank god for no drag. The saving sequence is just a tad comical, lol, I can't say exactly why but I reckon it might just be because Mansi actually knows how to swim, and somehow pulls off a tad unconvincing drowning act 😆, not to mention Talli's expressions look (every now and then) torn between smiles and frowns 😆 but shush, ignore all that - because A) I love the aerial shot of the three forming a triangle - how subtly but pointedly symbolic of the 'love triangle' B) how Kesar reaches Gulaal first and GK 'couple' while Talli is clearly the one who will fall out of the love game - again, symbolic of where the story is going and C) The HUG! Oh I could gush and gush and gush some more about the way he gathers her up in his arms the first second he catches hold of her. The desperation, and that utter sheer life altering urgency to save her, protect her - the nothing will happen to you, I'll let nothing happen - hug !!! [which btw ups the meager GK hug count to 5. Yes, this also counts only as half, because if on the chatt, Kesar didn't know who he was hugging, here Galool remains blissfully unaware 😆 So yeh. 5 for now. ❤️ ☺️

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Scene 2

Okay, so before I begin my 'serious' bak bak here, someone please tell me when Talli and Kesar were busy recovering Gulaal from the waters, who exactly retrieved Talli's dupatta?! 😲 Abi to Kunnu is also so far from the scene?! 😳 Anyway, somehow she found time to swim back, it seems, and get it. I can't imagine Kesar doing it for her, when he has a life pressing matter at hand.

Which brings me to say - yes, Kesar would have jumped to save Talli the same way too, if she was really drowning, or anyone for that matter, I'd imagine. So what's different here? What is so wrong about his claim - uske badle koi aur hota, to usse bhi bachata main! The urgency yes, would have been there for anyone. But the despair - upon knowing she is fine, out of danger, but could have gotten it worse - the extremity of despair at the mere thought, so much that he can stand at the door hearing no more and must walk away - is what sets apart Kesar's attitude towards Gulaal in danger different from any other case.

The opening of this scene - Kesar's labored breathing is back, and how! If initially in the orchard, it had been a mere sprain to render him helpless against his own iron will and be compelled to help her - this is far more serious. For a while, however brief or not, he almost didn't know what had happened to her, he would have given anything to have her but open her damn eyes! For a while, he almost feared to fear his oldest fear... For a while, his old fear and despair gathered blood like a storm at sea, at the prospect of what if. The way it paralyzes him, and plagues him - the mere mention of that possibility of loss, even though he's been assured she is doing fine now, is what is different from if this had been any other damn person but her!

Its interesting how Kesar manages to say - in whatever defense - something very much like Gulaal, and nothing like himself, in his argument with Talli. Agar Gulaal ko kuch ho jata, to hum gharwalo ko kya jawab dete?! Its not something one expects from Kesar, although its typically a Gulaal statement to make. She is the one who would question his drinking, not because it let her down, but because how the household would take it. She is the one who would ask him to behave, remain in line, not go out but rest when he's injured, eat meals with family - blah blah blah - for his 'gharwale'. And now Kesar pulls off the same. Really Kesar, is that what bothers you? That you're answerable?! Not really. Not if you were honest. What shook the ground beneath your feet for that little while of gnawing fear was not about being held responsible, nada. It was only about her. About losing her.

I shall ever be pleasantly surprised by these occasional bursts of unbelievable wisdom Talli seems to have! Tujhe Gulaal ki bohot chinta haina? - Yes Kesar shoots her a gloare hex which reads oh no you don't ask stuff like that if you want to live 😆 But Talli, OMG Talli, is actually smiling a bit?! *head desk* She has little idea of what she just asked, and Kesar - has been cornered by a very unexpected 'accusation' of concern 😆 The way he gruffly pushes past her, rebukes her - really Kesar, how much more are you going to prove Talli right? And we've proved time and again, whatever else is wrong about her, Talli is one loyal friend. She sticks to her case. Questions his behavior with Gulaal when he cares so much - and drives him only into further denial. She takes it to an extreme retorting he would not worry whether Gulaal lives or dies - and no matter what, Kesar cannot hear those words. Not when he was this close to watch his fear coming true! He yells, tells her to quit it and leave him alone. But when Talli doesn't back off at Kesar's high warning alert look, he says something (in an agitated voice that is suspiciously sounding of being beaten down) which is like a key to unravel his mystery moods, except comprehending it like that would be expecting too much out of Talli - jis gusse aur taqleef ko itne saal apne dil mein daba rakha hai, use kuredne ki koshish mat kar - Talli may not know how much those words mean; she may not know what demons she is poking inside him, and she may absolutely have no idea that all the shattering denial Gulaal will receive from Kesar moments from now has somehow eventuated from this interrogation she is shoving down his throat - but I'll still give her the points to dare and question Kesar. That when he's breathing live fire.


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Scene 3

So this scene really bears not one, but two declarations - one each from Gulaal and Kesar. While Gulaal of course makes her first, and even otherwise the very first mention of 'love' factor - whatever tangent she applies it on in her own conviction; Kesar for the first time has been pushed over the wall enough to verbalize having his reason to hate on her, treat her the way he does.

What jumped at me most, in the initial KT bit of this scene, was that when Talli is listing out Gulaal's condition in his absence, the self imposed isolation of sort - Kesar is not just getting his reality check of how genuine Gulaal's pain has been, but also of how their existence over the decade, apart and despite the distance, has been seemingly identical. Because imagine Kesar in the hostel after each letter that he doesn't send back, and each visit when he refuses to meet her, imagine Kesar shut inside his hostel room angered and anguished by the 'betrayal' that never ceased to perturb him - and compare it with all the skipped meals and tears shed and lonely nights that Talli names in Gulaal's condition - to me, Kesar, as he struggles to pose indifference to Talli's volley of facts and accusations, is not just pained realizing Gulaal's pain, but is inconsolably restless in being forced to face this equality of what both of them have undergone in their own place. And any realization that confirms Gulaal's pain as equivalent of his own - just has to stand in contradiction to whatever conviction he may hold against her. The unshed tears in his eyes at this point, the unspoken many words desperate to come out but held back - are not just his pain for her, but his recognition of symptoms that have been identical in his own life. Its like he's hearing his own tale - and his mind is struggling to not process and come to the obvious conclusion hence, of how the parallel of this situation should only imply Gulaal's innocence, should only mean her heart is both pure and scarred like his own, that the blame he has held against her - really, truly, just cannot be her cross to bear!

Interestingly everything that Talli tells him, is everything that he subconsciously knows to be a fact - stuff that he needs no one to tell him, assure him of. But being cornered with it all, is like having to admit to himself that she has genuinely suffered like him, and then try to simultaneously grudge her for betraying him, even making merry of it with accomplice Dushy - which as parallel co-existent situations would just not make sense. She could either have lived with the tears of loss, or have lived in triumph, and good riddance of him. His heart knows the latter to not be true - whatever bitter convictions he feeds his mind off; but being confronted by it so candidly is not what he can deal with. Wo itni akeli hai ke usko khud ka bhi saath nahi hai, makes him look up despite himself, but he looks away again. The whole put to spot and shaken for answers ordeal makes him rebel in a way that he further seeks recluse in denial - even if only in silence.

And then in walks Gulaal. For a moment, the expression on Kesar's face is a gushing relief, but unlike Talli, he has bidden himself to 'not show' - at least whatever of it he can manage to conceal. The play of dialogues hereon is interesting in the way they contest each other. Talli defends Kesar's concern - more for Gulaal's sake than Kesar's - Gulaal surprises Kesar by resigning to his attitude and accepting whatever he chooses to dish out at her - her resignation rattles Kesar - her neutral reactions can never go well with her, so he begins with indignantly pushing his 'I care a damn' attitude further, saying he would have done it for anyone, even an enemy (almost like he's hinting she is one) - but when Gulaal still scores one up, by 'thanking him' for the favor if that't the case, Kesar can no better deal with this taste of his own medicine, and is compelled to defend himself - mere paas meri wajah hai!

Kesar, the eternal paradox personified. Wants to hurt her, and elicit a reaction satisfying enough that she's hurt. Then recoils when she not only submits to the hurt without a fight, but even okays whatever he thinks, feels and believes. Makes a 180, and tries to bait her the other way, declaring he has his reasons. At this point, Kesar is semi-consciously tempting her to ask him why he must be so cold and hurting. It would bruise his ego too much to both win an argument without a fight - as she lets him; or to have to confess his reason all by himself, without being pestered, implored for it. So he's like this little child who's dying to tell her why he's mad at her, but can't stake his ego by saying it simply till he's been pressed and pleaded for it by her. But what does Gulaal do? She okays that too. He has a reason, so be it. He trusts the reason more than her, so be it too! And she has a point. If he can and will trust his reason more than her - what does it matter what the reason is? What does she matter that she seek it out of him, and consequently try to justify herself, clear the misconception? If he can hold a reason against her in greater trust than her heart and person, what will make him trust her word denying any blame or reason? And so, be it.

But what really nails the scene, is of course, the final grand declaration from Gulaal. That she will not change. Nor will her love for him - oh the way Kesar looks up at this point, meets her eyes like he's heard some prophetic words, which unknown to him he has. And finally, mere liye tu wahi Kesar rahega, jise tu khud bohot durr chod aya hai... translates to - mera Kesar. For all the days that he has spent proving to her he is not the same Kesar, occasionally lapsing and managing to counter prove that claim - hearing her say this now, stating simply, that he will remain the same Kesar to her - is huge. And moving. Overwhelming, and simply impossible to ignore. Because only his Gulaal would know what these words can imply. In an inexplicable manner, Gulaal offers him a justification here to all his doubts and questions - by claiming he will remain the same Kesar to her, testifies she is the same Gulaal. But they are, as we know, still a long way to go. Its ironic that Kesar's gets to hear these words from Gulaal at a point where they may move mountains and boulders inside him, but still don't mean their explicit self to him yet - when for a long time after he will realize how he'd give anything at all, to hear them again - to hear her admit he is the same to her, her Kesar...

The fact that he doesn't comprehend their value at this point - reminds me of what Gulaal's friend tells her about not taking something priceless for granted, just because it came by easily. Both Gulaal and Kesar in their own ways manage to take the others love and presence for granted at different points - only to be briefly threatened by its grave loss, which brings the realization of value, and then the struggle to win it all back!

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ps: Sorry for how long scene 3 took, but I actually lost the post once This current version is almost half hearted, because I was so mad at losing the first one - excuse me for that :(

Edited by JZephyr - 13 years ago
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Jzee-the 'paap ki bhavana'so true and we have proof.very funny.😆

the title of the post is so apt.so many emotions in these three scenes and each one so different from the other.
before getting into the emotional stuff I just wanted to point out some funny things which I noticed in the mission:rescue Gulaal scene.The 'naav'was not moving at first.the two girls were rowing but the boat did not go forward at all.Kesar's heroic jump...I found it to be funny, the water was so muddy there.and did I see a smile on Manasi's face in one shot,can anyone confirm it?the rescue itself looked funny when Kesar and Talli were helping Gulaal they were just splashing around,not moving forward.sorry about this but I found it very funny and had to get it out.

the first scene is a continuation of the last one-same emotions at play here but the awkwardness has disappeared for the time being.he is back to his fav past time-staring at Gulaal and the drastic change in his expression when he notices that Gulaal is no loger on the boat,very well done by Neil...I believe someone was counting hugs,well there's a hug here during the rescue...😆😉
There is a sense of urgency and desperation on Kesar's face when Gulaal doesn't open her eyes.He is so frightened.He just cannot imagine anything happening to her and even at the Vaidya's place he is feeling so restless and keeps looking at her.and when he hears the Vaidya's wife say that Gulaal's life could have been in danger,
that hits him hard and he just walks off.He is going through so many emotions and then comes Talli to put mirch masala which I think was needed at this point of time.otherwise this guy could seriously give the great Galool a run for her money with his Ziddi nature.

I loved Talli a lot in this scene.she expresses Gulaal's loneliness in such a poignant way'itni akeli ki use khudka bhi saath nahi hai...woh dheere dheere khud se door ja rahi hai'this dialogue is a gem,it makes me so emotional.and it's so true,Gulaal did not have anybody,Talli yes to a certain extent but she was waiting for Kesar-her friend and companion and partner in cime and when he too gave her the cold shoulder she just gave up hope.
just imagine if we felt this way Kesar would have been affected far worse.He is completely shaken up and is not able to meet Talli's eyes and just then Gulaal comes.true emotions peek out and thre's this smile on Kesar's face-just for a second though.and then he puts on that mask of the cold,rude,uncaring Kesar but is not entirely successful cause his eyes betray him.so even though he says all those mean,hurtful things he cannot face Gulaal and look into her eyes.and while saying that 'mere paas wajah hai'it's like he is trying hard to hold on to that last straw that will give him strength to hate Gulaal which we know is so silly.and then Gulaal's dialogue'naa hi tere liye mera pyaar'that just stunned him.He just gave up after that.

This scene changed the dynamics between Kesar and Gulaal.so a very significant scene.looking forward to the discussion.
Edited by minizz - 13 years ago
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Thanks so much, Jzee🤗

Will try to be back with caps when I can *sigh*

*reserved*
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Scene1: Kesar effortlessly sleeps into loverboy mode. Actually see him smiling, such is the irresistive charm of the old Gulaal! Gulaal playing with water and Kesar looks were like as if her dream girl had come into real world and he just can keep on watching her. The spell breaks wen Talli makes the remark that he can still come here and obviously he has to show 'I am so not interested' attitude!Directly coming to the jumping into river scene, u cud hear a faint Gulaal escaping from Kesar's mouth...even though he didn't knw whether Gulaal cud swim or not there was an instant worry that gripped him(example of how u can take ur frnds cooly but anything regarding ur special one always makes u alert or serious somewhere). I count this one as a hug too!

Scene2: When Talli shouts at the end of Scene 1 and Kesar is actually dumbfounded wat to do. But wen it hits him dat she isn't responding, the fear frm his eyes transfers into desperation in his actions.
There is a very cute scene 1:14 to 1:15- Common Kesar tendency- he's focus is so fixed on Gulaal that even wen the lady walks up to him to give the Tulsi waali chai, he's shifting so that her view is not block(Aarey teri jaan attki hui hai uspe, Kesuda!) He is tensed, clutching his hands, looking at Gulaal as if she wud magically wake up. But wen the doc confirms that she will be ok, then u can almost see the tears of relief in his eyes. And finally the anger coming out in the statement that he cud have lost her. Full marks to Talli for speaking up for Gulaal. Kesar starts by telling that how she shouldn't hav come and what the family wud hav said, trying to mask his own worry n feelings for Gulaal to himself as well as to Talli. She completely hits the nail on its head that he cares for Gulaal. Kesar almost becomes defensive(Natural Human tendency wen a person is faced with the truth that person accepts somewhere).

Scene3: I really loved Talli in this episode. She spoke abt how Gulaal was affected and not only him but she was also a sufferer of the distance created b/w them. She says it on his face that he had really taken away her only happiness with his "Go to Hell Galool" antics as he was the only source of happiness in her life. It does affect him because he had wanted to do that to her- give her pain but like always can't see her in pain(Tera main kya karun, Kesuda! Teri aur Galool ki Rab Ne Bana Di Jodi hai! Their pains are mostly self imposed). Finally Gulaal coming and saying the words-that remain in his mind for a long time. I loved how Gulaal was shot with the tulsi near her, symbolising her pure intentions and feelings that will never change.

Thnx for such awesome post, Jzee! Waiting for ur caps, Nur!
Edited by prachurya - 13 years ago
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Thanks for the clips JZ.

Very apt title..the despondency is at an extreme level for those tense moments. Kesar had always hated that feeling of losing Gulaal, so even though he was away from her for many years, he never felt he had lost the connection with her, she was always in his thoughts, whether good or bad. After his return as well, the fact that she reacts to his tantrums and rude behavior is something that keeps him going, had she maintained a distance, it would have driven him ten times crazy.

The fear is immense and he is only slightly relieved to hear that she will be OK. I loved the dialogues in his conversation with Talli...one minute he is taking out his frustration on Talli (rightfully so because had she not been in a prank mood, they would not be in such a situation) and the next minute the tables are turned with Talli shooting questions at him, that leaves him shaken. He needed to hear all of that, from a third person that even Gulaal was equally affected for 10 yrs, that he held great importance in her life, the separation cost them both. In a way this was a revelation to him, that his actions of not replying to her letters and refusing to meet her did break her heart. And now it kills him inside.

But even at this moment he tries his best to show that it does not bother him, and he says he would save anyone even an enemy...major stinging statement! I liked how Gulaal stayed stubborn after hearing this, that if he wanted to stay angry forever, he could, whatever his reasons to behave this way or anything he does now will never change that unconditional love she has for him, that will remain solid. In a way this kinda made him succumb to his deeper feelings towards her...which are no where close to hating her, and we later on see how he cannot control the need to care for her when she is sick.


JZ/miniz...LOL @ the hug count! The saving scene was a little funny yea...cos Talli was so close to Gulaal just on the other side of the boat, she could have easily got to Gulaal, but it had to be the man coming to rescue his lady love..😆..

I like the way you say how they rub off on each other... so true! @the nirja- water reference..ahh that is a lovely way to put it!

p.s that ved ji ke ghar ka aangan is the same house where Kesar and Gulaal lived later on separately na?

All the best for your exams Nur! ...looking forward to the caps whenever you can post it.
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Done updating written for all 3 scenes - Maz, Prachu, Mini - will be back to reply after I can catch some couple hours of quick sleep!

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@Jzee, lovely post.just finished reading it.very nice.It's so true Gulaal just needs that one simple gesture from Kesar and she just becomes this whole other person.this just goes on to prove how much she needed that from her Kesar.as discussed earlier he indeed brings her back to life.and that 'teri khushi mein apni khushi doondh leta hoon'so true.Her happiness means so much to him😳even in this 'be rude to Gulaal'phase.The Nirja/water thing,nice catch never thought about it.
About the 'hug',you know I hadn't noticed it and when I was watching it yesterday,I was Like -yay a hug😆I am happy someone else noticed it too.It doesn't make me look so pathetic and obsessed.I have company.but instead of half you can make it 3/4th na cause she also held onto him unlike the chhat one😳😆😉

I agree with you about Talli's dupatta😆Kesar's expression-bang on.I loved Neil's acting here.and Kesar par Gulaal ka asar tho hona hi tha...trying to use the family shield like Gulaal😆even Talli was not fooled by your silly defense mechanism😃

I never thought about the next scene this way.It's so true he got to know about Gulaal's suffering and it is so similar to his and he is confused.and so rightly said he wants to hurt her but he also wants her to fight back because that is his Gulaal,the fighter,the one who never gives up.so true they both take each other for granted at different points of time.but Kesar realizes his folly sooner and Gulaal takes a very long time to understand this.


@ Prachurya, lovely write up- so true there is a lot of difference between friends and that special someone and that has been shown in this scene so clearly.yep that's a hug and I loved it a lot.
I too noticed it and it was very cute.It's like if he keeps looking at her she will get up😆

nice catch with Gulaal standing near Tulsi showing the purity of her intentions.I didn't make that connection.that was good.It's so nice na, so many things you miss out while watching the scene and you come here and look at the different perspectives-I love it.😃

@Maz, totally agree with you Kesar can't handle it when Gulaal ignores him and we have proof too the 'pareshani' scene-his 1st question is 'tu ne mujhe andekha kyun kar diya'both of them first class 'duffers' I tell you😆
yep the instant she uttered that 'pyaar' shabd Kesar surrendered and gave into his true emotions😳and as you rightly said we get to see that in the next scene...love that one😳

the hug count😆well we have to keep count na there were so few...😆the rescue scene was indeed funny and was Talli at one point holding Gulaal's hair/wig?
I never noticed,Is it the same one-If it is then this house is very auspicious for the Kesar-Gulaal relationship,brings them closer every time.
Lovely analysis Maz...

Nur,hope you do well in your exams.



Edited by minizz - 13 years ago
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Very apt title JZee n lovely post...

In the first scene kesar was almost in alover boy mode...full on happy to see gulaal in that way...his general concern when gulaal says that talli is drowning...n then he realising that talli very well knew how to swim...n gulaal being all galool does jump in water without even knew a,b,c,d of swimming..how can some one be soo brainless...she doesnot have that sense that she cant help talli from drowning...but I dont have any problem with it...after all we get a hug of kesar n gulaal...his utter shock when he doesnot see gulaal in that boat...NB was such abrillaint actor...coming to hug...though its not a full one...lol that kesar was the first person to reach her...n also that talli duppatta thing..I always laugh at it when ever I see this scene...his fear of the worse thing to happen to his gulaal is very well acted by NB...just love those unseen tears in his eyes...so much pain, shock, and more than anything the fear of loosing his gulaal...his contant looks to gulaal in doctor place...how much he is concerned for his gulaal...n then the anger strikes when they say it would may have cause her death...his excuse as what will be they telling to family...showing his concern as families concern...he would have learnt this from gulaal lol...talli some times shows some kind of sense in her talks...when most of them comes abt gulaal...her questions and his answers...his unsuccessful attempts to hide his feelings...his shock to hear those questions...his invalid reasoning...n talli hits the bull eyes when she says abt gulaal pain in all these years...her turmoil, her loneliness...bang on talli...we can see kesar pain in listening them...gulaal resignation/acceptance to his taunts...his shock to her resignation...his reasoning of his reasons to her...her declration of her love for him...that he would be the same keasr for her who he himself left behind...excellent and excellent...a scene which changed the dynamics of kesar n gulaal for time being...


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@ Mini - we were sure thinking along same lines, finding humor in a dire drown scene and counting hugs 😆 On a serious note, I personally think Talli's prologue reality check to before Gulaal comes around actually puts Kesar on the defensive for him to blurt far more hurtful things, than he would have probably said just then - given A) his softer mood for Gulaal B) her fragile condition. But the moment Talli wants to give him gallantry award for saving Gulaal, for being so concerned, there goes Kesar denying it all like he must! I wont say he didn't have it coming - and Talli did a good job giving him fair and square - but to say Talli's defense of Gulaal actually kept Kesar from being his worst - not really. I think it counter worked, because reverse psychology is so the trick for him 😆


@Prachu - LOL! Yeh man Talli totally interrupted his enchanted Gulaal-gazing 😆 But again, in all fairness to Kesar, I do believe he would have jumped in for Talli too, or anybody, if in real danger - what's different is the consequent sense of urgency and paralysis that grips him of sort! Watching Talli in danger would have him worried, but it would not be like his life depended on it - lets face it. That's a purely Gulaal drawn reaction.

And again ROFL @ Kesar's focus on Gulaal! Aww, I found that so cute too, the way he tried to dodge the lady from blocking his view - sort of reminded me, in a twisted way, of the mandir scene when Kunal comes up to greet Kesar, and Kesar in his Gulaal struck mode is like - huh? what? who are you? sorry my incoming is barred atm 😆


@ Maz - true that. When he was only a boy, it would only take Gulaal to threaten him about going away, and Kesar would deny her nothing! It hasn't really changed. If keeping distance between them is his prerogative - that's okay. But if anyone or anything else threatens to take her away from him - nope, Kesar is back to dire straits, ready to crawl on his four or whatever it takes to not lose her. This one was a grave shock too! If the near drowning had scared him, hearing how tense the danger could have been only rattles him further - as he tries to shake off this what if feeling!
And as i said to Mini, I truly think Kesar would have been at the most a subdued cold towards Gulaal, if not bordering on betraying signs of concern, after the entire dangerous adventure - but Talli's pep talk actually drives him into denial! While if everyone had pretended it was perfectly normal for Kesar to be caring for Gulaal, he would have continued his docile streak - Talli confronting him with his is not something he will allow - an ego too big at stake! And so he counters, and says things more hurtful than usual - only Gulaal has overcome her shock of initial days and buffers his attacks better. In allowing him to win without a fight, she actually agitates him so much more - because a negative reaction from her is better than indifferent acceptance any damn day!


@MR - Lol Mary @ Gulaal jumping to save without knowing the basics of swimming, But that is, then, the most Gulaal thing to do! I would have thought it more silly on her part to consider Kesar would not jump in to save Talli, if he thought so much of the danger - but its a moment's call, and Gulaal doesn't really know how to reason, when savior acts are calling! The final scene, especially last bunch of dialogues from Gulaal really sealed the matter and settled scores in Gulaal's favor. Kesar had thrown every hurtful word he could at her - only to find her more calm with each new one, and himself further lost in the dilemma!

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