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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: JZephyr

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B) Take a bow DOP! Even in such a character face centric scene, he works with such nuance and excellence. The way the camera starts rollings from Gulaal's entranced smile reminiscing the imli scene, moves on to the picture of GV wedding behind that very aptly positioned heart shaped decor piece, to a reflection of her in the mirror - a happy enchanted reflection of a woman oblivious of what her heart is feeling. I love the way the camera comes to stand at a still of GV a couple married and so in love beneath that heart - like it were a blessed mistletoe - even as the woman unbeknownst to herself has traveled a few days back into time to a recent cherished memory of the re-advent of love in her life! Interestingly - she wears a dress in the colors red and yellow - our accepted version of Gulaal and Kesar - and the contrast in that frame of her past, present and advancing future co-existing in a harmony reflected by her treasured smile, is so well projected! The frame doesn't move away from GV frame when Gulaal's mind is occupied solely by Kesar - because Kesar has never been shown a 'replacement' to Vasant in Gulaal's life. Vasant has been shown a means for GK to come together! And I absolutely love the use of mirror, of how Gulaal has to but lift her eyes once and look at that reflection of herself to discover a girl so in love! Its like if she glanced up now, she would either not recognize that person looking back from the mirror - or be at least partly appalled at its existence!
exactly Kesar is not a replacement.He has a special place in her heart which nobody can take not even Vasant.Good that she did not look up otherwise she would have thought arre yeh kaun hai?aur agar main hoon tho main kyun muskura rahi hoon.yeh PAAP hai😆😆

C) At MB's calling of her name from the door, she quickly makes to pack the imlis away again - symbolic of the way she locks away her heart and its wishes from the sight or any and everyone -but they fall and scatter all over the floor - such a subtle but evident sign of how she cannot truly lock away the love that's going to blossom after the anguished gore is past! The way the imlis scatter is almost a foreboding of how Kesar's love for her will not be something that can be 'contained' and locked away! That it will spread in its impact far and wide, despite her urgent and hasty efforts to keep it under wraps!
nicely put👏
D) G-MB conversation, what a fantastic elder-younger duo these two make 👏 There's so much that has gone between them in their life to bring them to this point, where he, disapproving of the biggest decision of her life, the DV, has accepted it without judging her for it; where she the ex-widow of one son, in name wife and once in duty guardian of her other son, proposes that she has an alliance prospect for her husband in name, his now only son alive! The ease with which Gulaal can open her 'longtime plan' to MB is all on account of the strength of their mutual understanding and trust beyond that critical disagreement over the DV itself. Its interesting how she is later accused by PB of never having told 'the mother of the groom' about prospects of matchmaking for her son; that she never had a conscious intention to 'hide' her plan is obvious from her talking to MB about this now. But that she subconsciously finds the greatest understanding for herself in MB - is obvious from how easily she shares her intention. PB may have well been the softer and easier target to claim - might have given in sooner to her 'son's scope for better happiness' than MB, who is far more stuck on the vital stats - aur tera dhyaan kaun rakhega? It reminds me of what JK had stated the other day in a far more taunting manner of course, but stating only fact, of what does she deem will be her position after letting Kesar go! Gulaal has no answer. She tells MB the same garbled crap that DB and PB dished out to JK's taunt the other day - of how Gulaal would always be part of this house, the prime part. But MB's eyes have the wisdom of his age and experience, and he knows, and shows through them - that she's talking either in naivete, or in preferential ignorance of facts. That no matter what else, if and once she lets Kesar go, nothing will in fact ever be the same for her!
but the sad part no one took an initiative to better Gulaal's life until Kesar and even after that no one was considering her future as to what she will do after the DV.sit at her parent's place for the rest of her life with her useless bother and her rang badalti SIL.If Vasant's family really felt that she has sacrificed a lot they should have done something sooner rather than wait 10 yrs for Kesar to come back which leads me to believe that they had assumed over time that GK would be pati patni for life,they had accepted the realtionship even MB to a certain extent,he just did not want to force the relationship on her.but after Kesar's rude behaviour they began to have second thoughts.

. With her first step of success in separating Kesar from herself, Gulaal (although she doesn't ask herself why) only feels sad and lonely.

the apprehension of Kesar's loss in Gulaal, although far more explicit and with far more conviction that she increasingly fails to deny, the fact that the fear itself has always been is obvious from this scene. And not the fear of losing 'the kid Kesar' and his affection, but the fear of losing her support system, her kavachh, her sapna - all in one go! Its interesting how later in between she begins to show far more signs of turning blind to this knowledge that she's handing over Kesar for good, how she chooses to revel in my dream of KT comes true rather than see that something inside is going to become null and void hence! But just here and now - Gulaal is far more acutely conscious of what she will lose. As always, she only manages to bury this personal emotion far below - transiently - when the moment demands of her, not long from now.

because by then she has classified these feelings and emotions under the category of PAAP 😆 which really became her fav word.oh Galool😆
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: nureat01

Caps updated in the post above:

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come on this is how a woman who is in love behaves.such a beautiful smile if Kesar had been a witness to this he would have forgotten all that jealousy stuff in a second😆






picking up the scattered imlis with so much love and care.later she does the same with Kesar's letters too.she loves him😭







As always special applause for how beautifully this was shot...the DOP, the director...magicians, all of them👏

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Posted: 13 years ago
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A second time that he manages to find this comfort in his mother - after the other time when he physically shoved Gulaal and gave her some very cutting comments, before walking into the kitchen weighed down by the entire thing, until PB's affection eased the heaviness.
Beautifully put , Jzee ...and this also is an example of how his encounters with Gulaal were so different from his interactions with his mother , subtly but clearly demonstrating his relationship with Gulaal was certainly not like one with a mother ..(just recalling point brought up by a few in some distant posts )
PB - such a difference from her character in the final moth or so - a mother in all sense despite feeling so touched by her son's gesture, doesn't forget to question him about his latest escapade.
so true ...
- but PB has not been blinded by the smoke of a decade that hinders Kesar's vision, logic, or arguments. you put it so well ! So she shoots right back 😊
and a partly grumpy Kesar at his futility to find even temporary break from 'Gulaal' 😊👏
still reading ...
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Posted: 13 years ago
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@Nur.. I agree about Gulaal's choice of words..I thought the same, I think somewhere deep down she feels that she has been unfair to Kesar by making a huge decision for him i.e the DV, she thinks she has taken away/robbed him of something important from his life...you know sort of how people think your first kiss should be 'the' one..so here Gulaal has made herself his 'first wife', something which was not his choice (of course he was not capable of making such choices back then)...so in her mind she wants to fix this guilt that disturbs her..she wants to find someone who will replace her in the title and actually give him what he rightfully deserves from a wife/life partner. And that is why she pushes harder for Talli to get married to Kesar 'jald se jald inki shaadi hojaye'...that it why it's 'Talli tumhe khush rakhegi'. Again the biggest irony is that it's Gulaal who chooses the new girl in Kesar's life, she doesn't give him the opportunity to do it himself.

Awesome caps! Love the mirror shot and the last wistful / sad smile one...very sad indeed..

@JZ.. Brilliant symbolism with the imlis there 👏...agree with your thoughts!

@pics..your welcome..ohh OK I see@ KB..a friend of mine happened to prowl that forum and hence shared the link with me.

Edit: We are doing the road trip scenes today right? 😃
Edited by Maz. - 13 years ago
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Posted: 13 years ago
#25

Originally posted by: Maz.

@Nur.. I agree about Gulaal's choice of words..I thought the same, I think somewhere deep down she feels that she has been unfair to Kesar by making a huge decision for him i.e the DV, she thinks she has taken away/robbed him of something important from his life...you know sort of how people think your first kiss should be 'the' one..so here Gulaal has made herself his 'first wife', something which was not his choice (of course he was not capable of making such choices back then)...so in her mind she wants to fix this guilt that disturbs her..she wants to find someone who will replace her in the title and actually give him what he rightfully deserves from a wife/life partner. And that is why she pushes harder for Talli to get married to Kesar 'jald se jald inki shaadi hojaye'...that it why it's 'Talli tumhe khush rakhegi'. Again the biggest irony is that it's Gulaal who chooses the new girl in Kesar's life, she doesn't give him the opportunity to do it himself. LOL that seems to be a constant irony in GK's case...maybe sometimes when we're so close to something, we are unable to see our actions from a broader perspective...you are right that Gulaal probably had that guilt on some level that she robbed Kesar of a normal life by doing the DV with him...even though she stands by her decision cuz she saw it to be for the greater good at that time...but overall she had that need inside her to want to "fix" this...to "settle" Kesar in life and ensure his lifelong happiness...which she thought he'd get with Talli who was the "right" match...cuz she was the same age as him, his bachpan ki dost etc. etc...it all sounded so perfect to her inside her head😆...but yeah she didn't realize that in all this endeavor to fix both K and T's lives by intertwining them...by "healing" these two "wounded birds" as she saw them in a sense...she wasn't even once PROPERLY considering Kesar's feelings in this...once again she made the decision FOR him...she took away the choice from him *shakes head* Brilliant irony written in by the writers...and that is the catalyst that really brings on the fireworks from Kesar...LOL...loved that.

Awesome caps! Love the mirror shot and the last wistful / sad smile one...very sad indeed.. Thanks, Maz! I loved those too.



Edit: We are doing the road trip scenes today right? 😃 I think we are...I think today is orchard scenes day...woohooo...lol...but I'll wait for Jzee to confirm.

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Posted: 13 years ago
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@Nur.. I agree about Gulaal's choice of words..I thought the same, I think somewhere deep down she feels that she has been unfair to Kesar by making a huge decision for him i.e the DV, she thinks she has taken away/robbed him of something important from his life...you know sort of how people think your first kiss should be 'the' one..so here Gulaal has made herself his 'first wife', something which was not his choice (of course he was not capable of making such choices back then)...so in her mind she wants to fix this guilt that disturbs her..she wants to find someone who will replace her in the title and actually give him what he rightfully deserves from a wife/life partner. And that is why she pushes harder for Talli to get married to Kesar 'jald se jald inki shaadi hojaye'...that it why it's 'Talli tumhe khush rakhegi'. Again the biggest irony is that it's Gulaal who chooses the new girl in Kesar's life, she doesn't give him the opportunity to do it himself.

Awesome caps! Love the mirror shot and the last wistful / sad smile one...very sad inde

this is exactly what i feel about that scene.brilliantly put
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Me soo late😭...chorry guys for the chota comment..this office work taking most of my personal time these days...
Wanted to thank everyone who started this thread of posting post leap KG scenes...except PB-kesar scene...i never saw the other gulaal-talli n gulaal-MB scenes...because of this thread...i was able to see this...i would have missed very excellent scenes of gulaal...now I admire MP more than before...
Great job guys🤗
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Posted: 13 years ago
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You're welcome MR =)

ps: Everyone, I'll be a little delayed posting the new thread because I still haven't got the scenes done and there are other file uploads I need to do for my department site today as well - so after that! Just in case anyone was staying up later than usual waiting for the post - it wont be here another couple hours, I think, sorry!


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Posted: 13 years ago
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Hello , forgive me I am ever so late in catching up ...but it is so difficult to give any GK scene a pass by , especially when it has been discussed so beautifully by all of you here..please do bear with me..hope to catch up fast and be up to date..

28th sept : stifled yearnings:

What a beautiful title for this scene !👏👏

Love the way this scene starts with just a glimpse of Kesar looking into Paan ba's room from a far away place on the other side of the balcony railing, through the window, noticing Paan ba , then deciding to come in through the door – very small instant of filming , but so typical of the care with which Gulaal was shot – zillions of such tiny details adding so subtly to the effect that they can almost go unnoticed yet contribute to the "real life effect' that Gulaal had on so many of us..👏

A very impactful Gk scene , with Paan ba reproaching Kesar for not taking Gulaal to her parents house and JK rubbing in the couple bit on them ….NB ,ofcourse, hardly need any dialogues , their expressions say it all – Kesar"s on hearing "patni' and Gulaal's on hearing "pati' and the undercurrents when they are close to each other when Kesar passes Gulaal by …truly blood curdling ! 😊And the background music in this scene accompanying their expressions must be one of the best in the show

And the imli scene – one of the many that I am seeing for the first time through this thread – is once again a tiny yet powerful scene leaving many tales behind – both said and unsaid …. So many of you have described it so beautifully – and indeed her reflection in the mirror was so dreamy – to me , for just those precious few moments she seemed to be in a world which she could consciously never dare enter – a world where she was loved and cherished again – by Kesar – and true enough , Mota bha called, reminding her of her family and "reality" and her blissful world shattered , all over the ground, along with the fallen imlis ….

And what struck me was that while she always runs to put Kesar's world together (when Kesar's letters flew away and she frantically gathered them back ), she didn't even realise or as much as pause when her imlis fell apart and she ran to (Mota bha) to attend to the her duties…

love,

VJ


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