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Posted: 14 years ago
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Originally posted by: JZephyr

^^ exactly what we didn't want yeh?! The love becoming a charity case?! ... today shifted dynamics in the wrong direction like never else. Its not the case of one bad episode - its truly the case of undoing all of the recent past - and starting from scratch, with 3 episodes to go. remember how glad we were the DV broke in time so Gulaal would get her right period to realize?! they just sort of undid that advantage all over. they might as well have broken the DV on friday, woken her up in the ME realizing OMG Kesar's eyes were haunting yesterday how will the poor guy live without me?! and gone to him ... if realizing his love was going to come so dangerously close to pitying him...

And the funny part is that since vasant is so connected to gulaal. He is still the only person who will going to make her realize that she loves kesar😛 vasant baba ji man gaye apko... kash ap thore waqt aur phele ajate gulaal ko realize karane ke liye. I am also thinking that gulaal might recall what her friends said ''kisi chez ko buht na le jo asani se mil jaye, jab woh chez khoti hai tab ehsaas hota hai'' something like that, i believe😕. But i guess, everything will come in the end in her mind. But i hope accident does happen soon( omg i am so mean naa😲) sorry, but yaar i am suffering from this fasle between kesar and gulaal. CV's seriously need to show something good! serf 3 more episode to goo!!. Thats no good!, lagta hai hum tarap ke he bus reh jain gen...
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Originally posted by: nureat01



Yep, it would be perfect...and Kesar can play the dhol and do the Turba in front of Galool mandir till the end of time as well...what a perfect story.

Reminds me of what Durgesh once said to Gulaal.
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Originally posted by: JZephyr

^^ exactly what we didn't want yeh?! The love becoming a charity case?! ... today shifted dynamics in the wrong direction like never else. Its not the case of one bad episode - its truly the case of undoing all of the recent past - and starting from scratch, with 3 episodes to go. remember how glad we were the DV broke in time so Gulaal would get her right period to realize?! they just sort of undid that advantage all over. they might as well have broken the DV on friday, woken her up in the ME realizing OMG Kesar's eyes were haunting yesterday how will the poor guy live without me?! and gone to him ... if realizing his love was going to come so dangerously close to pitying him...



Exactly! This is not the case of one bad epi...this is a case of BAD TIMING...this is NOT the time to suddenly show such lack of emotion from Gulaal's side when you've been freaking BUILDING UP that emotion since weeks now...it was all supposed to be leading up to a purpose...the DV breaking was serving a purpose...but Gulaal was in ZOMBIE mode today to be honest...a HAPPY zombie I guess since she was busy beaming at the family and belatedly realizing that Kesar also exists *rolls eyes*

Originally posted by: JZephyr

You know I really really liked how Mansi's voice went Kesar kahan tha tu ab tak... and especially Kesar's reaction and reply to that... if only it had been preceded by her silent looking out signs from her - it would have been oh-so-perfect...! and again I ask, how hard was it to fit those few expressions from her, and few from Kesar to indicate he had noticed her coming and then appeared all pumped up with the dhol?! The scene is so detached from the rest of the episode - like you said Nur, totally the appearance of an 'afterthought' like they had the entire episode done, and then went - oh gosh, we totally forgot this character called Kesar! Challo lets squeeze in a fit-all-moods dhol sequence! :-\



Exactly, Jzee...TREATMENT becomes so important...and otherwise Gulaal is a pro at this stuff, that is why it pinches so much when they let us down like this...the GK scenes lacked their usual SOUL...ek toh it was a brief scene...upar se it was all so disjointed...Gulaal doesn't even THINK about Kesar until he magically shows up with that dhol...and compare this to just a day or so ago when looking at him at the mandir stopped her in her tracks...and today? Nothing...a day back she was so affected by him even at the mandir during Kulli's pheres...today? Nothing...Yes, she may have maaroed that "kahaan tha tu ab tak, Kesar?" line but since that moment didn't get any build up with glances, expressions ANYTHING, it did not have any effect on me...I felt DISCONNECTED...which is the last thing that a viewer should be feeling when supposedly we are being shown "emotional" moments.

Kesar was just made a sad joker today I felt...the dhol scene felt kinda unintentionally funny to me...I'm not really a huge fan of his dhol playing waise bhi😆...I start dreading that he'll break into a turba right after he plays the dhol cuz he's done so on the previous two occasions😆...but thankfully he spared us that this time...and instead got so overly randomly enthu about shouting "Haathi ghoda paalki..." that Janmashtami chant or whatever it is😆...Even the scene when he goes to Gulaal and asks her why she's standing by herself...they could have given us something more there naa? But no, nothing like that...ek toh there was such a forced fake happy vibe to that entire pooja scene, upar se this...*sigh*
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Looks like I'm hardly the only one majorly disappointed. I get that tying all the loose ends is necessary but did we really need yesterday's completely kullified epi + tonight's overly long family reunion?? With so little time left those seem like a total waste...Plus tonight's epi highlighted Gulaal's indifference towards Kesar. I hate those serials in which the lead heroine is so busy trying to fix everyone else's problem that she is blind to the feelings of the lead hero who ofc is so devoted to her...then we have the male lead go in pining mode which is not a great viewing IMO...
I'm not only disappointed but totally disheartened at the path the show seems to walk onto. I've happened to stumble upon the article regarding Kesar's accident and Rahil's cameo...suffice to say I was less than satisfied by what I read!! First Gulaal's realization happening over Kesar's accident is kind of cliche. I get that the possibility of loosing a person for good can be a catalyst to uncover one's heart's secret but after the past month build up, was it necessary?! And what I completely and utterly loathe is Vasant having anything to do with Gulaal's final push towards Kesar 😡 I have nothing against Vasant/Rahil (so no offense to his fans) but his appearance at this point of the show would only be detrimental in my opinion. It will negate what happened the past one to two months!!
On one hand it will shatter the beauty of the slow progress Gulaal has made since Kesar's confession. From her coming to terms with Kesar's feelings, understanding its nature, relying on him, trusting him to be her rock to recent days when she was shown longing for him, all that will go out the window like poof 🤢 I'm so not happy...For god's sake what does she need to have Vasant stamp of approval NOW of all time!!! Which leads me to my second point: this Vasant comeback will also negate Kesar's role in bringing Gulaal out of her widowhood. It is unfair to his character and the love he has given her!! Kesar was the one to bring the joyful Gulaal out little by little by freeing her of her painful past, give her a clean slate to begin to live again. And it had worked!! After such growth, I absolutely don't understand this regression back to having Gulaal waiting for Vasant's green light. What is the point? Does that mean she is still very much hold on on Vasant? Where's the beauty of GK love then? It has a feeling of 'OK everyone wants me to move on with Kesar, I even have Vasant's blessing so it's all for the better' very 🤢
About the precap I must say that I'm also disappointed by Kesar's decision. It negates the maturity he has gained over the time IMHO Kesar knew from a long time that Gulaal would likely not reciprocate his feelings but still he worked to set her free and not once was entertaining the thought of leaving the house in a 'If I can't have her I will go as far away as anything reminding me of her' way' ...I think it was a mature thing to do so again I'm really saddened at this u turn...
I feel we will get what I now think as a very anticlimatic ending so I'm no longer eagerly waiting for the remaining epis
Edited by Aeryn - 14 years ago
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Aeryn, I completely agree with your post! You've summed up all the thoughts I have in my head regarding this too...

I understand that with the show ending, we may not get a lot of what we'd hoped for...but given the brilliant kind of build up this show had given us so far and was continuing to until as close as last Friday, this Monday, how is everything SUDDENLY getting derailed with hardly 4 epis left??!!! I was so sure till Monday that we'd get a poignant, meaningful culmination but now I'm not so sure.

It is not too much to ask that given all this time and the way they've shown each facet of the GK relationship developing...all the shades to it...Kesar's evolution as a character...Gulaal FINALLY starting to understand his emotions, his utter devotion towards her...it was all going on track.

But today it felt like an alternate universe...Gulaal was indeed indifferent...which is the last thing you'd expect after all they've shown of her since last week and this Monday...and I'm not too fond of the precap either...I'm honestly quite tired of this endless heartbreak they keep showing for Kesar over and over again...Gulaal is busy being a saint and waiting for Ghost Vasant to show up and show her "the light" and Kesar is busy moping on the other end *sigh*...It's literally becoming a pity party for Kesar now...and that would be the ultimate anti-climactic ending...
Edited by nureat01 - 14 years ago
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Posted: 14 years ago
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@nureat01 - yep that's sad. I don't think it even has anything to do with having high expectations (I think viewers are smart enough to not expect to see all the things they wanted to happen) but as you said the show seems derailed from its course! The storyline is no longer in adequation with what was shown recently...viewers generally don't take it well when a show go on a storyline which seems to negate what they invested time in, they are bound to feel betrayed and ultimately disconnected. Same goes with Gulaal, but here the problem is amplified 'cause we were used to good quality and uparse the show is going to end in 3 epis!! To have it go off like that so close to the ending is really a shame...
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Aeryn, Nur - imagine me liking all the posts above and agreeing ofc.

I think we've all been high on anticipation of what exactly would make Gulaal finally turn in, and the last 2 weeks were excellent lead up. the advance between the first hug and the second had come so naturally - and as I pointed out in Kesar's dialog the other day - 'kabhi kabhi to dusra sweekar hi nahin karta - he was already getting good sense of the truth, about Gulaal loving him back but not accepting it, even if it was at a subconscious level, or his words would have been very different and more along the lines of kabhi kabhi dusra apko wapas pyar nahi kar pata!

anyway - so we've had excellent build up and so much conviction in the track - as Reemz said last week, she and I were probably topping the bunch of 'looking for scenes' people and even we loved how the track came about ... but then we get yesterday! Like Tuesday was bad for waste of space - but I could excuse them to not be out of line... yesterday was just so wrong. Now this phase of Gulaal's final calling will just be marked by too many signs and hints of what would have made sense a month ago! Again, like Reemz, and Len I think said yesterday - the CVs were probably getting all these angles cleared out before they focus on GK - if it was just about lack of space given to GK, I'd probably just be sulky about the lack in a final week... now the finale is going to be blotched for me, no matter what it seems, by this sense of ill timed and entirely not needed 'impetus' for Gulaal to break the final shackles!

It had been so apt for GK to have their DCH moment last week, when Gulaal flipped about something happening to Kesar - because it was so much in sync and flow with what was going on at that point. Even if they'd shown an accident after the mandir scene from Friday, to before the Kulli rituals - say Kesar meeting goons sent by Kunnu's dad - it would still fit in the picture, even if a tad cliche, because following Gulaal from that mandir sequence, this added sense of losing Kesar, after losing the official bond would fall in place...

Now when it happens - it will be about Gulaal having really brushed Kesar's matter under the carpet - because again, and again, I'm saying, she didn't look up once for him, if but secretly! it was like she'd forgotten his absence until he appeared! ita redundant to he wasn't even as a kid to her dude! - anyway, she wasn't just forcing wool over Kesar's eyes to not let him build hopes - from the CVs projection of it, it was like one hug back from the family had washed away a month's doing by Kesar! He just didn't matter anymore - and yes, that's not true, but that's how wrongly it was projected... so now when he gets her attention over an accident, and her revelation comes from Vasant's urge - where is Kesar's role in her awakening?! Cause we just razed all that to ground zero in a span of a single carelessly done episode!

Honestly - if they'd seen the show to upkeep quality so far to the end, they might just have managed it another handful of episodes! Yesterday does mar for good - whatever the finale has in plan. It will be hard to overlook one entire episode -which was critical because Gulaal willing came back whatever her reason - where Gulaal didn't seem one bit affected by Kesar, this way or that. Not taking him for granted in the stride of things... but actually in apparently forgetting him transiently!
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Posted: 14 years ago
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You know what , I am seriously suspecting that the show's original CV's have gone off and the last few days are being handled by some novices who have stepped in ... It could well be so - and I am NOT saying this just because GK were not shown much or not progresed much in their story..but because - dont you see- the general standard of the episode was so low yesterday ...do you really think it is possible for original CV's to show it so shabbily ? and all the blooper on hair growing big and small and big - have such things ever happened in Gulaal before ? Well , not much atleast ...after the intricate attention to detail they have shown !
Anyways, I have decided to take care of myself (and not expect anything from the CV's now) I have decided to remember all that is lovely about the show , to watch all lovely episodes of the show with fab performances by Gk AND so many others ..and I am going to read lovely posts made by all of you earlier ...and I am going to keep watching the lovely VM's made by you - my wonderful forum-mates ...with whom I have shared this lovely show ...I am already doing it , why should I wait for the show to end ...I am watching old scenes now itself, while all of you are still there with me in the forum , it feels like watching it again with you..
thanks for being my friends ..
Cheers !
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Originally posted by: nureat01



I don't know if I'm over-reacting in my depression but honestly Kesar saying he's leaving in the precap also didn't do much for me...seriously this situation had to move in tandem at this point...they are making Kesar look so BECHARA and almost pathetic in a way...I'm not liking it.

@bold: But why?? Should she only be concerned cuz he's crying and heartbroken?? She herself looked quite broken and upset until Monday and now suddenly she's got a beatific smile on her face after doing family milaap jaap🥱🥱🥱...This is sadly becoming more and more like a pity case🤢..."haaye bechara broken hearted Kesar crying and leaving the house...upar se accident...so now ofcourse Gulaal should melt and go running to him"...how convenient.


Nur, that is exactly what I did not like!! Gulaal was having Kesu fb's and we felt - wow...she is genuinely missing him and thinking of their time together. Then she goes over for the puja and is concerned about everyone and everything except Kesu. We know her realization is coming up but right now from the episode and the article it seriously does look like Kesu is going to get the charity treatment!! CV's started building up on Gulaal's realization but the past two episodes they have completely destroyed everything that was built up! Things would have been more believable if her face or eyes would have shown some sort of a - where is Kesu look or something to indicate that she was searching for him! I mean, he entered with a dhol and she walked towards him then we got a small Piyu Maari...it was just abrupt!

Also, this accident thing...nahhh...c'mon CV's! Kesu's realization was dealt with in such a beautiful way and the last thing I wanted was for some extreme event to MAKE HER REALIZE plus if that is not enough...Vasant will push her in the right direction? Why does she need a push?? I don't want him to be a charity case or second best...family first, Dushyant first, Talli first, Kunnu first...Kesu last!
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Nur: Don't worry, Kesu is not the charity case here...WE ARE!!😆 GK scene yesterday was sooo BLAH and lifeless! He entered with a dhol, she looked towards him and realized - oh ya...where was this guy? I did like the way they walked to each other...Kesu being Kesu just could not contain his happiness and was beating away at the dhol to the same rhythm of his heart when he saw his Gulaal, she was looking at him adoringly but there was sadness as well...a kind of - he does not know I am not here to stay...!! The GK scene was almost like a last minute - lets please the viewers addition which was sad because since the moment she entered there was so much potential in the way they could have built Gulaal's anticipation to see Kesu...

The point where they threw in the Piyu Maare...its like the CV's were going - chalo gaanaa lagaa do viewers ke liye...khush ho jaayenge!😆
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