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Posted: 14 years ago
#11

Originally posted by: Manoshono

Absolutely touching episode! And your title says it all👍🏼 It was all about their love and support for eachother.

The accusation was indeed very flabbergasting, i mean every woman would have break down like gulaal. But the care and affection that kesar has showed was just superb and inevitable. The way all those accusations on gulaal was equally hurting kesar, my heart was just out to him. This is what gulaal will see and realize when there was no one to support or to understand her, then kesar was the only light that would show her where she really stands. I havent seen any love story so deep and so pure that you expect more from these characters day by day! But they all have done a great amount of justice with their characters.
Precap was needed much, i am excited to see the unfold side of gulaal's journey for the past 10 years. I hope from now on, we willl only get to see gulaal's journey to kesar! and really hope that she willl realize his love by next week, really want to enjoy their final journey with eachother😊 Serial Gulaal will always rock!


SO true! Just when you can't expect their love to get any more beautiful, you get moments like today where you simply want to admire the bond they have. A bond which even Gulaal and Kesar don't even completely fathom.
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Posted: 14 years ago
#12

Originally posted by: Lennie

Hey

Again from the EDT
Manoj Joshi rocked - pain of a father not just for Vasant, but for Gulaal as well He sure did! MB trusted Gulaal more than any other person in the house so this just knocked him back to no ends.
Like he says the one person he trusted so much, Gulaal who to him was never just a DIL, but a daughter,she made their house - a home, she held it together.
I knew the day everyone found out the truth, Gulaal word is literally gonna come crashing down on her, and that fall down from Gulaal was that exactly - Manasi was fantastic here, when isnt she not fantastic 😳 She's always brilliant man!
The accussations that MB is throwing at Gulaal is like daggers to her heart esp when Vasant is mentioned, she knows MB stands right in his point in what he saying but to say what she has done to Vasant, and dhoka to him and his aatma will never be at rest, that is what kills Gulaal inside, all she ever did was for Vasant - along the way supporting herself with Vasant in her thoughts and to hear what MB says cuts through like anything, and what MB says to her like how she will live in this house, he has no idea how she has lived for the last 10 years esp during the time when she found out V was gone, and then finding out the secret... she in a way also had punishment in the way she has lived and lived in secret with her own pain and the truth concealed in her To hear MB use Vasant's name like that must have hurt her like hell. All these years of loneliness she had spent just to keep Vasant's dream alive and today she has to hear accusations of cheating Vasant and how his soul would never be in peace with Gulaal in the house :(
Gulaal falling to the ground said alot, a sign of losing everything she ever held and did for this family, and still sitting their whilst darkness all around her and Kesar, significant that Kesar stayed by her side throughout it and will do in darkness as well
Atleast Gulaal is talking in the precap, however shook up she looks - atleast she is talking and responding and saying what she does, in why she always did what she felt was right for the house and so on... she's lived her whole life on that, knowing right and wrong for the house, keeping everything else inside her - and to see this day
She knows she has done wrong in the sense from MB's pov now, but you dont feel it until the extent of the wrath is thrown at you and boy did MB threw it at her today, and also PB. MB is the one she is closest to her - so whatever he says hurts her 10x more, and its something she will have to understand what her actions today has done, even though back then she was justified to some extent in what she did, and how after one thing after another kept happening
Like Kesar says atleast hear her side of the story - they need to hear her side, and i dont just mean what happened but how she also lived with it and kept herself hidden with the truth, knowing for over 10 yrs, its been much worse for her, until MB doesnt hear her side, he himself will not get some peace and also let Gulaal get some peace

Honestly i have never found what Gulaal did back then wrong, esp given the situation it was and why she did what she did (and even the DV, i never doubted her forever she did and why, coz she had her reason, we know them, we saw them - understood them), like you say what she did had strength to what she did, wake up everyday and strength to live and beside the family, give her life to them etc

Its only today how wrong it looks from MB's pov - and so on, she knows she was wrong in that sense, and where she now stands with them, and like i say if she sees the facts of today then she knows she is wrong in that sense, not in what she thought and why she did it as such
I didnt like the fact that she is put in the same catergory as Dushyant, but i can see from MB;s pov why he has, but for me its hurts - coz she doesnt deserve that, and dont judge her on that solely
There is in every true woman's heart, a spark of heavenly fire, which lies dormant in the broad daylight of prosperity, but which kindles up and beams and blazes in the dark hour of adversity.


^Great post!! Agree with the rest of it and the quote is so apt!👏 Like they say, a person who hides a crime is as bad as the person who committed it. So that's the way MB viewed it!
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Originally posted by: manzilmukul

Reemz just finished watching ...the scene with kes -gul and darkness was absolutely adorable..that was one very powerful scene..This paan ba looks horrible...🤢


I know PB was a sore sight to the eyes today *sigh* I tried my best to ignore her!
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Posted: 14 years ago
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I forgot... the words were coming to since yesterday, like they were right on the brink of coming to me and wouldn't... I just remembered - the Bard himself...

The course of true love, never did run smooth...
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Originally posted by: *Reemz*



I didn't understand why Talli ran away. My first thought was that she's gone to get water for Gulaal but then she never returned (thank God!) 🤣 Then when I saw the scene again, I noticed Talli looking at Kesar so I wondered if she got uncomfortable. In conclusion, I assumed that all this was too much for her to handle.😛



I too thought that she has gone to take water or something, but when the camera started zooming out n she did not return I was like - bhaga diya, mast direction! 😆 Yeah she looked at Kesar n I thought that she saw his concern for Gulaal n thought best to leave for the realisation that Kesar loves Gulaal n not her, n at that point he was taking care of Gulaal! 😳
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Originally posted by: JZephyr

I missed the live airing of the episode courtesy extra class and caught only the very end of Kulli 🤢 (talk about luck) and the PRECAP - but going by live updates from Srush - I suppose the big GK scene in aftermath is all in store...


As for that capture in the dark against the pillar - it was so well portrayed.. the way Kesar's voice chokes and the name Gulaal doesn't come out first go, and then he says it again and clearer - was such a subtle but brilliant depiction of how a timelessness has descended upon them in the wake of a disaster... how Gulaal's only support is Kesar, and how his calling out to her (even though after the bell alert) is in a way indicative of how he's going to snap her out of this!

Special mention back to the scene by the pond side when Kesar had asked her for answers, and Gulaal had only thrown back a meri imaandari par shaq mat kar... I hope Gulaal will soon come around to see how even the mature and selflessly accepting elders have been outdone by Kesar in the blind faith he could then place even in her denial. His dilemma and torment and misery had been upped to a peak by her declaration of Kesar having no haq to question her back then, and yet, ever since, he's lived - and had even become eventually tolerant to - Gulaal decision of protecting Dushyant, and accepting his presence in the house... only on her word. It's hard to say if MB and PB's loss has been any greater than Kesar's himself - although their respective relation with Vasant varied, it is also true, that Kesar a decade ago was a young impressionable mind scarred for life... And yet, when Gulaal needs a believer in her word - the kind of absolute believer, who even if he questioned her intention and lived with a grudge against it for ten long years, could not snap away and not trust her when she lashed at him of not having! He is the sole pillar for her - and incidentally, even in the midst of a family that loved and cared for her, he was the only one who was consistently striving to bring back her happiness! It will eventually become transparent to Gulaal - that there truly is no limit to the extent he can go for her... and his love for her... and in wake of the same, hopefully, she will realize that it is exactly how she is too! Her means to express may not be as vivid or as evident as Kesar's - but the sense of right and priority she has with him, is exclusive and unique!

So relieved with a glimpse of tomorrow in that precap - about time Kesar learns of the entire truth, and just as well, that Gulaal - whatever her frame of mind - is the one to divulge every word of it... because really, even if her confession sounds self-reproachful, her heart will be in every word she says - when she claims she hid fire in her pallu ... they aren't plain dramatic words! She's lived with the flame, and the burns, and the smoke, and the heat - for ten long years... and whether or not her decision was wrong, the one thing no one can and should take away from her is her intention...

Oh well! Tomorro, tomorrow come soon!

xx
JZee


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I like to add that the symbolism of the two sitting by a central pillar in the house, supporting each other rather than seeking the 'pillar of the house' support was deep! Its this house, as Gulaal recently claimed, that means everything to her, its happiness her all - and like we were saying that day, she will soon see how the center of it all is Kesar - with him, all of it, without him, nothing!


Do you have your laptop back?? I don't like being the only one making a topic on the daily episodes. There's not much time left anyway so was hoping for more activity! :(

Before Gulaal came along, Vasant was the most important person in Kesar's life so you're right about his loss being as deep as MB and PBs yet he is still ready to believe Gulaal against all odds because with love, comes trust. He knows she can't do wrong and that's enough for him! The other family members may need some explanation (which is fair enough, they have a right too) but Kesar doesn't demand anything of that sort.

@Bold: Exactly! Her intentions were never corrupted and that is something MB and PB should inherently know. That dialogue with the pallu and aag was extremely powerful!
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Originally posted by: JZephyr

I forgot... the words were coming to since yesterday, like they were right on the brink of coming to me and wouldn't... I just remembered - the Bard himself...


The course of true love, never did run smooth...


Hmmm so true 😳 And this kind of true love is something else altogether!
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Posted: 14 years ago
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No words can describe the way manoj joshi,mansi & neil had enacted today as mb,gulal& kesar,Hats off to them.Can say only one thing that sp has lost one of its jem show,hope they realize wht they have lost in the name of trp
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Originally posted by: *Reemz*

Do you have your laptop back?? I don't like being the only one making a topic on the daily episodes. There's not much time left anyway so was hoping for more activity! :(

Before Gulaal came along, Vasant was the most important person in Kesar's life so you're right about his loss being as deep as MB and PBs yet he is still ready to believe Gulaal against all odds because with love, comes trust. He knows she can't do wrong and that's enough for him! The other family members may need some explanation (which is fair enough, they have a right too) but Kesar doesn't demand anything of that sort.

@Bold: Exactly! Her intentions were never corrupted and that is something MB and PB should inherently know. That dialogue with the pallu and aag was extremely powerful!


I don't have it back yet - they said they need to keep it over the weekend, broke some hinge in the monitor part, and they said although it will run already, if they don't replace and fix it, it might cut through the LCD one of these days - so I'm just going to have to wait... 🤢 And that's why I'm not making a topic - my internet time becomes very 'position dependent' :|

Anyway - you know Reemz what's the wonderful part of GK bond?! If she had told him something a decade ago, and he'd taken her word for it, no matter what - anyone could say he was this kid blinded by Gulaal's obsession... He's grown up over the years, heck he spent a decade of his life going from becoming the easy to convince child to the mind of his own adult - but one thing that's only grown with his years is his faith in Gulaal - even when he's hell bent on fighting it, as he was on his return, he can't Through the ten years of grudging her, she was still his only confidante, even if in the form of secret letters... and when he got back, his faith in her cut through the hatred and suspicion until it had all been gotten rid of ... One can understand that the elders of the house cannot just come to forgive Gulaal, understand her point, or trust her intention at this point in the face of such seeming betrayal - and yet Kesar, who is also very much an adult now, can, because that's how it is between them. The way he trusts her word, blindly and only because its her word, is childlike pure, and ten years of acquiring a sensibility of his own has done nothing to corrupt that faith ... it was always there, much as he tried to bury it beneath doubt at one point, it was sitting alive and alert, iffy to bounce back. He cannot imagine his Gulaal to have done anything to intentionally harm or cheat, and even when he hated her guts or decision, it was ever the more so from this struggle of convincing himself she was vile - because even a decade of isolation could not instill that fact enough - such is his faith in her!
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Originally posted by: JZephyr

I missed the live airing of the episode courtesy extra class and caught only the very end of Kulli 🤢 (talk about luck) and the PRECAP - but going by live updates from Srush - I suppose the big GK scene in aftermath is all in store...


As for that capture in the dark against the pillar - it was so well portrayed.. the way Kesar's voice chokes and the name Gulaal doesn't come out first go, and then he says it again and clearer - was such a subtle but brilliant depiction of how a timelessness has descended upon them in the wake of a disaster... how Gulaal's only support is Kesar, and how his calling out to her (even though after the bell alert) is in a way indicative of how he's going to snap her out of this! That scene was brilliantly done...he sat there with her, unaware of the time, hunger, thirst...just sat with her. It has always been like that though right? They have always been each other pillars...good or bad times

Special mention back to the scene by the pond side when Kesar had asked her for answers, and Gulaal had only thrown back a meri imaandari par shaq mat kar... I hope Gulaal will soon come around to see how even the mature and selflessly accepting elders have been outdone by Kesar in the blind faith he could then place even in her denial. His dilemma and torment and misery had been upped to a peak by her declaration of Kesar having no haq to question her back then, and yet, ever since, he's lived - and had even become eventually tolerant to - Gulaal decision of protecting Dushyant, and accepting his presence in the house... only on her word. It's hard to say if MB and PB's loss has been any greater than Kesar's himself - although their respective relation with Vasant varied, it is also true, that Kesar a decade ago was a young impressionable mind scarred for life... And yet, when Gulaal needs a believer in her word - the kind of absolute believer, who even if he questioned her intention and lived with a grudge against it for ten long years, could not snap away and not trust her when she lashed at him of not having! He is the sole pillar for her - and incidentally, even in the midst of a family that loved and cared for her, he was the only one who was consistently striving to bring back her happiness! It will eventually become transparent to Gulaal - that there truly is no limit to the extent he can go for her... and his love for her... and in wake of the same, hopefully, she will realize that it is exactly how she is too! Her means to express may not be as vivid or as evident as Kesar's - but the sense of right and priority she has with him, is exclusive and unique! Very well said...👏

So relieved with a glimpse of tomorrow in that precap - about time Kesar learns of the entire truth, and just as well, that Gulaal - whatever her frame of mind - is the one to divulge every word of it... because really, even if her confession sounds self-reproachful, her heart will be in every word she says - when she claims she hid fire in her pallu ... they aren't plain dramatic words! She's lived with the flame, and the burns, and the smoke, and the heat - for ten long years... and whether or not her decision was wrong, the one thing no one can and should take away from her is her intention... exactly!! The entire family can lash out at her all they want...after all they are human, at the moment this is too much for them to absorb but when everyone cools down...they will realize that her underlying intentions could not have been bad...there must have been some reason she had to hide all this from the family...time will heal all

Oh well! Tomorro, tomorrow come soon!

xx
JZee


*edit*

I like to add that the symbolism of the two sitting by a central pillar in the house, supporting each other rather than seeking the 'pillar of the house' support was deep! Its this house, as Gulaal recently claimed, that means everything to her, its happiness her all - and like we were saying that day, she will soon see how the center of it all is Kesar - with him, all of it, without him, nothing!

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