29th June - You cant force love... (Kes-Gul)

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Posted: 14 years ago
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Continued scene of Talli and Kesar, what wrong did Talli say nothing - isnt it (despite getting another surprise look on her face when Kesar declares he loves Gulaal) , Who cant force someone to love you, you just cant force anything on anyone you can clearly see that Kesar has still not got it... why is it that he feels the emotions at the moment things happened and when ppl talk to him, but he never seems to dwell on it later and see the bigger picture, and think where he might of gone wrong or where he thinks that and looks at it from Gulaal's pov, he still in a way hasnt realised what he has done... ok in his own way he is direct and so on, and his heart is in the right place, but Kesar is just not seeing how he handled what he has in the last few days... and why Gulaal and him have reached this point of her leaving and then begging to come back... Revji baapi, Gulaal and Talli and even D - have said something similar to him, but still he hasnt got it... or doesnt want or whatevet seeing as he asks what have i done... the day he understands Gulaal, will be a day i wait for her also to see him understand where he is lacking and why what he has done...

Like Talli says this is not the way to show love... esp the way he has done, funny how he says he cant imagine hurting her - then what has he done lately is the question, i get that her leaving home gave him so much turmoil, we saw it but mostly for his own sake he has done what he has...
Got to say i think the writers are really highlighting the fact that Kesar just doesnt see his ways for now and that he doesnt realise exactly what he has...
After i said about Kesar above, he goes and pulls me in the other way where his thinking comes out... we get a scene of Kesar at the mandir, where he asks what wrong did he do with loving Gulaal, and so on... heartwrenching words, but you know what i think that no one is doubting his love (well except Gulaal to an extent) and so on, but then he goes on about it, is well not exactly right in a way... Kesar isnt wrong in his love and no way it is paap or a mistake, coz he has no paap in his heart for what love he holds for Gulaal and like he says he would die for her, but i still dont see him getting the whole picture of his love as such (and why his love feels forced the way he keeps on about it, and for his own sake says and does it) and what has happened... he is very right on when he says that Gulaal is not getting out of her hold of Vasant and doesnt want to get out, and this is the Kesar who thinks like this is the Kesar i know has got it him to be the mature Kesar he can be and emerge as one and be an strength - he has such a view of the world in his own way that it so right but sometimes his other brain shell goes in kiddy way - not sure what other word to use), the dialogues he said about what society thinks and so on, it not how feelings run on and so on - i say spot on and he doesnt want to think and feel what they think, but he has his own feelings and emotions, very much right
Gulaal's place in this house has changed and she got a full view of it from JK, and so on - the the relation now as changed and to them all she is Kesar's patni who has come back, otherwise no other relation remains, and you just saw the shock on her face...
However much JK says she threw Kesar out of the room, we all know she didnt - but Kesar made that choice rightly so... even Gulaal knows why Kesar did and so on (she knows Kesar wouldnt come near her and so on, and he hasnt done after what he said to her.. and the way he rushed out leaving)
Gulaal cares that much you see, she is conscious of things that Kesar said yesterday, Talli saying he left in anger, hasnt eaten and so on... now that she is Kesar's patni, obviously she will do things for him, today we saw her making food and packing it for him, even though she wanted Talli to take it, but then again she also packed Talli food as well, i presumed Talli also works there...
Revji and Gulaal scene was heartbreaking in the sense, you just know a daughter is hiding the reality of what she has become in the house, however much she was trying to convince herself and her father, it just wasnt true anymore and Revji baapji knew it as we saw later on when he went home and told them, that Gulaal seems like a lifeless person there... one thing i did like was him saying after Poonambha says Kesar will take care of it and her, and Revji baapji says first let him take care of himself... and this holds so much truth, Kesar hasnt even managed to got hold of himself as such, how he is gonna take care of Gulaal
I so believe Gulaal can get out of her Vasant frenzy, coz she is one of those woman who thinks of others and does for others... and her heart is not selfish, but if Kesar doesnt get hold of himself and so on and understand himself, and also Gulaal on such a whole level, then there is no way Gulaal i feel will come out of Vasant entirely, we keep saying she has to, yes she does in her way as well... the day Kesar starts to think of Gulaal and her needs before his, and seeing what she is all about and what she is like... its ok knowing she is like this and like that, but deeply does he know her as a woman... where exactly can this love grow and make her see his love and so on
If Kesar doesnt start to see this whole thing on another level, then he is be going to keep banging his head on the brick wall... if he doesnt fully get it, on how to behave and see how his intentions which are pure and so on, are just not quite the rights one in the way he goes about things...
PRECAP - Looks like D might of found Kesar in a bad way and we see them in Kesar's room and JK says thank god for D, that he got there at the right time and so on... well guess we will see Gulaal take care of him, i mean they do share a room now and so on... despite how much Gulaal pulls back from him and doesnt want to show that she cares and does stuff for him...
It would also be nice to see them talking atleast as well, and get a starting point going on with them being somewhat on the same page atleast
EDIT - Not seen the precap as such, but read about it - all i can say is that Kesar has for his own sake has got himself in this condition, i know abit extreme to say, but its like he is asking for attention from her by doing what he is doing or whatever he does to get him in this condition 😕
I cant believe i am gonna say this, but again Kesar has - made this about himself, i dont particular like seeing him like this and i dont like calling him out on it, but he has... ppl keep saying to him he loves himself, he does thinks for his sake.. and then again you see him leaving the house and going god knows where, who did he do it for, himself isnt it... i know he has done stuff before like this when he came back and so on, but with ppl telling left right and center lately where he has gone somewhat wrong in his attitude, he still doesnt get it...
Finally saw the precap...
Gulaal wasnt even harsh in what she said coz it wasnt meant to be harsh - well not in a ignorant gussa way, but a calm way just stated a fact lol - no doubt that will rile JK up 😆



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Posted: 14 years ago
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Talli didn't say anything wrong but Kesar wasn't entirely wrong either. He has run out of options to get in to Gulaal's good books. After he confessed his feelings, he didn't enforce anything on Gulaal. It's not like he expected anything back. All Kesar said was that one day Gulaal will understand his love and that obviously scared her away so she ran. Not that I blame her but for Kesar it was like 'Woah, what did I do wrong here? I only confessed my love for you'. His heart is so pure and innocent that he doesn't understand how complicated he made things for Gulaal. Even now he is keeping his distance like she asked him to.

I don't think there is anything Kesar can do because no matter what, Gulaal will have that Vasant line between them. The options for Kesar are exhausted! He can only think of their future ahead if Gulaal allows him to. Right now she won't even talk to him so what does he do exactly? What is the correct way to go about it?

Gulaal's scene with her dad was beautiful. Manasi looked beautiful with those tears in her eyes!

Precap looks good despite her cold reaction. I'm sure we'll get some interesting scenes out of this!
Edited by *Reemz* - 14 years ago
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Posted: 14 years ago
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PLZZZ.. no talli bhalli in this scence ... only gulaal n kesar... For god's sake keep talli out of this...
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Originally posted by: sukriti19a

PLZZZ.. no talli bhalli in this scence ... only gulaal n kesar... For god's sake keep talli out of this...

Well lets see if Sudha has her on a tight leash 😆
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Now now, are we comparing Talli to an animal now? Harsh! :O Maybe she just needs to get back to her dancing or hang out with her friends a bit more.
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Originally posted by: sukriti19a

PLZZZ.. no talli bhalli in this scence ... only gulaal n kesar... For god's sake keep talli out of this...

Completely agree with you...😊
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Finally saw the precap...
Gulaal wasnt even harsh in what she said coz it wasnt meant to be harsh - well not in a ignorant gussa way, but a calm way just stated a fact lol - no doubt that will rile JK up 😆

Edited by Lennie - 14 years ago
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Posted: 14 years ago
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It's true that there are some things Kesar still doesn't fully realize about the ramifications of the methods he used to bring Gulaal back but today we should give him some more credit...in general he is dismissed as being selfish and only loving himself...but today he said out loud one major reason he wanted to bring Gulaal back too...the GUILT...that she left this house because of HIM...he KNOWS what this house and the family means to her...she has literally given her entire life to this house...knows no world apart from it in a sense...and she left...because of HIM...in case there was any doubt, Gulaal's scene with her dad reinforces once again just WHAT this house means to Gulaal...and Kesar SENSED that even if Gulaal wants to deny it to him...he did it for HER sake as much as for his...he did it for BOTH their sakes but she can't see that right now.


Today at last Kesar SPOKE out his mind...first to Talli and then to God...cuz he is that isolated that no one understands him so where else did he really have to go?


The other significant line of the epi was by Revji bhai...when Poonamba says that Kesar will take care of Gulaal...and he replies...'first Kesar needs to take care of himself'...this is foreshadowing once again...and Kesar WILL reach that balance...obviously there will be turmoil for a bit but Kesar is ultimately headed in the right direction...he will discover that strength which has always been inside him...and meanwhile Gulaal too has to learn to give a bit...she doesn't make it easy for anyone either.
Edited by nureat01 - 14 years ago
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Posted: 14 years ago
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And as for the precap...let's first see how Kesar landed up in this state...let's not forget that Gulaal is just as blindly stubborn about her health sometimes too...didn't she refuse to take the medicines after she fell sick from almost drowning? And then Kesar had to MAKE her take the medicines, right?

These are just their personalities...always have been...it's not like Kesar is deliberately trying to put himself in a pitiable state to garner her sympathy...
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Firstly how do you take care of somebody who does not even want to see your face, and as we all know Gulaal has also declared that she is there because of Kesar but not for him, so where does he begin to take care of her?. Most of the actions which has been taken by Gulaal has also been for herself and for her own reasons and motives. I do not see how Kesar getting himself into some sort of trouble is only just because of himself or for selfish reasons. He could be so depressed that he felt bound to go and do himself harm. That is not selfish but a cry for help.

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